Comments on: UFC 86 Rampage Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin updated fight card

By: true mma fan

true mma fan — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:38:43 +0000

and who the fuck is a hector rameriz anyways 6-2 record befor griffin and 0-1 record in the UFC they threw him to the dogs (griffin)just so DANA’s lap dog (griffin) could get back on a better fight track
WHY didn’t griffin fight the sand man (james irvin) cause if griffin couldn’t beat the shit out of ramirez shit he would probably get stomped by irvin.

By: true mma fan

true mma fan — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:23:58 +0000

ok i can see what you are saying on the MIR situation i am not a MIR basher but i just feel that they sorta need a tournament like in the original UFC with all the other heavyweights in the UFC to purley clarify who the #1 contender.i understand that hearing shouldn’t get a rematch and there is no one in the ufc HW division that really stands out but i just beleive that MIR needs one more atleast contender fight after coming back to get this title shot.thats why i beleive the UFC and mostly dana white is falling apart. and i think if they went with the original format of a tounament style situation and then we would have a stand out HW contender and it would also introduce The world to a few more heavy weights that are not well known or not known to the mma community.
on the forrest situation yeah just cause ZUFFA and the UFC placed the placard of RUA being the “best LHW in the world” doesn’t make it so cause how can you be the best if you havn’t beaten the best and at the time HENDERSON was the EX champ of PRIDE and yeah i beleive that RUA sorta did get robbed by the decision during the hendo rua fight but a loss is a loss .
to me even if you do beat the so called best in the world that isn’t the CHAMP i still beleive he still has to prove himself a lil more maybe one more fight against a UFC contender (someone who is proven in the UFC ) befor he got his title shot.like lyoto michida,thiago silva,chucky,rashad,henderson,or atleast a rematch with jardine and if he gets a win over any of them then in my eyes he deserves a shot at the title.

By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:13:04 +0000

oh great, another Mir basher.. ok.. look at it this way.. who do YOU think should get a title shot??

Heath Herring? HELL NO.
Chieck Kongo? he lost his last fight.
Eddie Sanchez? HELLLLLLLL NO.
Antoni Hardonk? …
Cain Velasquez? Yeah, after a few more fights. And the same goes for that BEAST, Shane Carwin..

but in the mean time, to keep the champ busy/have another TUF/have a headline.. why not give Mir the opportunity.. plus, he never really LOST his belt in COMPETITION sooo.. i say he deserves it..

“what i don’t understand is how just how is griffen even in the top 5 .he got mutilated by jardine then he gets a win over a out of shape first time in the cage shogun”

Shogun might have been a little rusty.. and a little out of shape.. but WHEN Forrest beat him.. he WAS [not "widely considered", he WAS] the best LHW in the world.. bottom line.. so, here’s how i see it.. if you’re coming off a victory [Forrest UD over Hector Ramerez] and you beat the best LHW in the world… why NOT get a title shot?

By: true mma fan

true mma fan — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:22:36 +0000

what i don’t understand is how just how is griffen even in the top 5 .he got mutilated by jardine then he gets a win over a out of shape first time in the cage shogun .yeah he did do a good job against shogun but nothing major yeah the win but being a all around mma fan shogun wasn’t shogun and being shoguns first time in the cage he showed a lil ring rust.
then there is the next tuf 8 with mir and nogueria wow i just don’t understand how mir gets 2 fights back under his belt in the ufc which in my mind he looked horrible against lesner till the heel hook. to me he needs to prove himself to be back in the running against better opponents befor he gets a title shot but the heavyweight class doesn’t have anyone to impresive in it right now but still i beleive you have to earn your shot at a title and this is sorta becoming the downfall for the ufc cause they seem to be just makeing some bad mistakes on title defenses.
this is just my opinion

By: Cobra Kai

Cobra Kai — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:27:06 +0000

He is pretty humble in the video, but off camera he was not so cool.

By: Cobra Kai

Cobra Kai — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:18:47 +0000

@#29

Here is the fight if you want to see it:

http://www.rageinthecage.com/download105f10.htm

By: HexRei

HexRei — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:32:37 +0000

@#28

I’ll agree, it certainly wasn’t a tough opponent. But then, there aren’t a lot of top LW’s outside of Zuffa-owned orgs and Japan these days. I didn’t see the RITC event so I can’t comment on his behavior but if that’s true it’s disappointing. You can’t get away with being a jerk for long unless you can win fights against top guys. But I still say, let’s wait and see. Maybe he’s still a douche, but has become a douche with a work ethic.

By: Cobra Kai

Cobra Kai — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:27:02 +0000

@ #27 – I know why he fought in RITC. My point is that he didn’t win a decent fight out of the UFC, it wasn’t any type test for him. It’s not like he even beat the champ of RITC. He beat the 5th ranked guy in RITC. I doubt he has learned any humility. He was being a douche at the RITC event.

By: HexRei

HexRei — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:18:27 +0000

@#26 Guillard fought in RITC because he had lost those last two fights (in addition to the drug test and being a douche to his last two opponents, both of which I think hurt his career in the eyes of the UFC). Dana told him to go get a win somewhere else and not to come back till he did.

That’s what he’s done. At least let him show what he has in this next fight… the kid is exploding with potential, he just needs to learn discipline and humility, and maybe during his 6 month forced vacation from the UFC, he has.

By: Cobra Kai

Cobra Kai — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:11:59 +0000

Guillard needs to be out of the UFC. His only win since 2006 was to a guy at Rage in the Cage whose nickname is “short bus”. The guy has fought 20 fights in 2 years and is 10-10. He is tough but not exactly UFC level.

Gurgel needs to be out of the UFC as well. If miller beats him there should be no question about it. All of his fights in the UFC go to decision. He is 3-2 in the UFC but all of his wins have been against guys who are 0-1, 0-2, and 0-3 in the UFC. Gurgel must have pictures of Dana and Tito making out, I have no idea why they are trying to keep him in the UFC.

By: Nate

Nate — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:55:28 +0000

ps: nice comment on Guillard, hilarious.

By: Nate

Nate — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:51:05 +0000

Favorite card of the year? are you kidding?
UFC 84, Hello!
UFC 84 good card before the fights.. then it became card of the year(so far). Every fight on the card was exciting, most were awesome. They televised ALL the fights, that means most were fast and awesome. (2 decisions, but they werent lay and pray snoozefests at least.)

I am looking forward to UFC 86 because of 1 fight: Rampage vs Forrest
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Everyone knows it is going to be AWESOME. I also kind of want to see:
Gabriel Gonzaga
Chris Lytle
Ricardo Almeida
and Corey Hill (2 knockouts, both in @ 30sec)

Everyone I recognize on the rest of the card are guys I hate to watch & I think are boring for the sport. I never liked Joe Stevenson, too much lay and pray. Guillard, is horrid. I want to see Tyson Griffin because he beat Urijah, but his last 4 fights were decisions. Ugh. I cant wait until July 19th. Someone want to shed some light on the other fighters to contradict? I welcome it, but I dont see it happening.

By: Dayzah

Dayzah — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:16:13 +0000

was wondering the same thing , im going too this event so I hope they throw something else on here =( wtf..

By: C-Pop

C-Pop — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:44:34 +0000

Why is there only 9 fights.
Sorry it took me 3 comments to spit that out.

By: C-Pop

C-Pop — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:43:45 +0000

Why

By: C-Pop

C-Pop — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:43:45 +0000

Why is

By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:20:14 +0000

oh, and.. i pick Guillard to win.. one word.. Gogoplata!!!

By: Mike Wolfe

Mike Wolfe — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:19:52 +0000

I try to leave sentiment out of it, but I’m backing Lytle all the way. I thought he was a class act on TUF and he’s done well against formidible opponents. I don’t have anything bad to say about Kos, but “Lights Out” is my man in this one.

By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:18:17 +0000

#14,
no, Corey Hill debut’d with a TKO victory a few UFN’s back..

and..
Jay K. – “Even considering Kos’ improved stand up, he’s no match for Lytle. Therefore, this one will go to the ground where Lytle will get worked with a quickness a la Matt Hughes style.”

we all know Lytle’s a boxer.. but his BJJ is phenomenal.. i’m predicting that he’ll make Kos look like Burkman in the Hazelett fight [that is, if it goes to the ground, after all, 70% of his wins came by submission].. transition after transition.. omoplata’s armbar’s and triangle’s coming out of no where.. i could see why someone who hasn’t seen many of Lytle’s fights would count him out.. because he has some bad luck.. but he’s found new life in care-free-go-for-broke fighting after his last victory came in at just over the 30 sec. mark.. i think he’ll lay it all on the line and take this as being the fight of his life.. but.. we’ll see.. i know Kos doesn’t play around..

and as for your comment on GG getting an easy win over McCully.. i don’t know about that.. as far as i see.. GG could EASILY become a victim of lay’n'pray here..

i’d like to see who agrees with me here: i think Lytle has had one of the hardest careers of any non-title holder in UFC history..

i mean, he started off with current MW champ Robbie Lawler.. that was a down-right AMAZING fight.. but a loss.. then he moves on to fight Tiki.. gets a win.. skip a fight.. and then he’s facing Karo freakin’ Parisyan.. loses a UD.. and moves on to Joe Freakin’ Riggs.. loses via cut.. then, he makes it all the way through TUF and gets Matt Serra.. and loses a split decision that i thought he won.. so now he’s got 3 straight losses [in the UFC], and they give him MATT HUGHES!!! so he loses a UD.. and then gets a beautiful win over Jason Gilliam.. and moves straight on to THIAGO FREAKIN’ ALVES!

idk.. i’m sure he -asked- for some of those fights.. but still.. that’s one tough career.. i’m just glad they keep him around.. every one of his fights is entertaining..

By: aaron babb

aaron babb — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:11:01 +0000

Corey Hill fought some Veres guy a couple months back on an undercard. Expect him to be spoonfed for the time being.