Comments on: Report: Rich Franklin to return at UFC 88 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 11:48:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: double A-ron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36463 double A-ron Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:53:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36463 good call two toes, that should be a good test for franklin, but he should prevail good call two toes, that should be a good test for franklin, but he should prevail

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]]> By: Beef http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36398 Beef Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:17:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36398 LOL, Hendo (as much as I like him as a fighter & personality) didn't stand with Silva in R1 because he got a golden opportunity to take Silva down in an awkward position after Silva's funky flying knee attempt. He took it and ended up not being able to do much with it. That pretty much sums up R1 entirely. R2 they started on their feet again and Silva decided to _not_ try a funky move (e.g. flying knee) like he did in R1. Hendo had his chance here to try to stand with Silva. What followed was classic Anderson Silva... BTW, do y'all remember the behind the scenes footage leading up to the main event that night? Hendo was chilling and relaxing cracking jokes with his entourage in the warm-up room. Silva was reviewing some moves. Interestingly all of them shown were counter-moves against a looping right hand bomb. He must have had at least 6-8 different counters. Somehow, I think that Silva would have been ready for whatever Hendo could try standing up. Does anyone else see Silva's (potential) move up to 205 as a way for him to get more $$$ via the Roy Jones Jr. Fight et al? Make the move to 205; Vacate the 185 title; Win your fights and look good doing so; finish up your contract ASAP and leave the UFC (no more Champion Clause to tie you down); Take your reputation built up in the UFC as the greatest P4P and cash in on superfights. Retire rich and with the rep. LOL, Hendo (as much as I like him as a fighter & personality) didn’t stand with Silva in R1 because he got a golden opportunity to take Silva down in an awkward position after Silva’s funky flying knee attempt. He took it and ended up not being able to do much with it. That pretty much sums up R1 entirely.

R2 they started on their feet again and Silva decided to _not_ try a funky move (e.g. flying knee) like he did in R1. Hendo had his chance here to try to stand with Silva. What followed was classic Anderson Silva…

BTW, do y’all remember the behind the scenes footage leading up to the main event that night? Hendo was chilling and relaxing cracking jokes with his entourage in the warm-up room. Silva was reviewing some moves. Interestingly all of them shown were counter-moves against a looping right hand bomb. He must have had at least 6-8 different counters. Somehow, I think that Silva would have been ready for whatever Hendo could try standing up.

Does anyone else see Silva’s (potential) move up to 205 as a way for him to get more $$$ via the Roy Jones Jr. Fight et al? Make the move to 205; Vacate the 185 title; Win your fights and look good doing so; finish up your contract ASAP and leave the UFC (no more Champion Clause to tie you down); Take your reputation built up in the UFC as the greatest P4P and cash in on superfights. Retire rich and with the rep.

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]]> By: kirby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36327 kirby Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:03:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36327 I think Nate has looked like a better fighter recently than when he fought Anderson. I don't know if he got better or if Silva made him look less than he is. Hendo is a different story though, he stood toe to toe with Wandy and Rampage. He knocked out Wandy and he made Rampageto decidede wrestle instead of box. When Hendo fought Anderson he seemed like he didn't want to stand and trade at all. I know he's a wrestler but he seemed to abandon his stand up intirely. Why?Also on the ground he didn't do much either. Why? In my opinion he gave Silva too much respect. I'm not saying he is beter I just think it should have been a beter fight and that Dan could win. That's why I want to see them fight again. I think Nate has looked like a better fighter recently than when he fought Anderson. I don’t know if he got better or if Silva made him look less than he is. Hendo is a different story though, he stood toe to toe with Wandy and Rampage. He knocked out Wandy and he made Rampageto decidede wrestle instead of box. When Hendo fought Anderson he seemed like he didn’t want to stand and trade at all. I know he’s a wrestler but he seemed to abandon his stand up intirely. Why?Also on the ground he didn’t do much either. Why? In my opinion he gave Silva too much respect. I’m not saying he is beter I just think it should have been a beter fight and that Dan could win.
That’s why I want to see them fight again.

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]]> By: MoreThanUFC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36326 MoreThanUFC Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:50:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36326 The best the UFC could do is Hamill vs Franklin? The best the UFC could do is Hamill vs Franklin?

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]]> By: mod http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36319 mod Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:33:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36319 god i just want to see silva lose already. the mw division lost its luster. eff it. have hendo and rich go at winner takes on silva. they might find a weakness after the spiders lhw debut....hopefully sandman puts him to sleep god i just want to see silva lose already. the mw division lost its luster. eff it. have hendo and rich go at winner takes on silva. they might find a weakness after the spiders lhw debut….hopefully sandman puts him to sleep

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]]> By: revjames13 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36292 revjames13 Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:59:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36292 Marquardt also said he gave Silva too much respect in their first fight. Funny, I think Silva was doing something DURING the fight to make them give him too much respect. Marquardt also said he gave Silva too much respect in their first fight.

Funny, I think Silva was doing something DURING the fight to make them give him too much respect.

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]]> By: kirby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36288 kirby Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:06:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36288 Jackyl if a guy is winning more than half the fight I don't think of that as being owned. To answer your question, I feel Hendo lost that fight by giving Silva too much respect. So if he's going to realy fight I'll personaly be ok with a rematch. Jackyl if a guy is winning more than half the fight I don’t think of that as being owned. To answer your question, I feel Hendo lost that fight by giving Silva too much respect. So if he’s going to realy fight I’ll personaly be ok with a rematch.

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]]> By: Two Toes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36279 Two Toes Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:27:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36279 MMA rated is confirming that this fight is against Matt Hamill although you can clearly see by the timing of my first post that I was the one to actually break the story ;-) http://mmarated.com/blogs/blog/20080701/exclusive__franklin_vs__hamill_at_ufc_88-265.html MMA rated is confirming that this fight is against Matt Hamill although you can clearly see by the timing of my first post that I was the one to actually break the story ;-)

http://mmarated.com/blogs/blog/20080701/exclusive__franklin_vs__hamill_at_ufc_88-265.html

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36263 Jackyl Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:30:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36263 Leites, Marquardt, Henderson. Plenty of fights at 185. If he moves up he is in danger of taking a big loss. And why do we think Henderson would fair better in a rematch with Silva? Silva owned him and if you don't remember watch the fight again and look at the look on Hendersons face when he taps. Leites, Marquardt, Henderson. Plenty of fights at 185. If he moves up he is in danger of taking a big loss.

And why do we think Henderson would fair better in a rematch with Silva? Silva owned him and if you don’t remember watch the fight again and look at the look on Hendersons face when he taps.

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]]> By: bjjdenver http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36201 bjjdenver Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:22:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36201 Beyond Anderson, there are a lot of interesting fights to be had at 185. There is a very deep pool of fighters, especially grapplers, that could be paired against each other. The perception that this division is weak, is primarily due to the domination of Silva and the lack of familiarity to casual fans, of the other fighters. Beyond Anderson, there are a lot of interesting fights to be had at 185. There is a very deep pool of fighters, especially grapplers, that could be paired against each other. The perception that this division is weak, is primarily due to the domination of Silva and the lack of familiarity to casual fans, of the other fighters.

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]]> By: revjames13 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36192 revjames13 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:49:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36192 At 185 I would like to see Franklin fight Marquardt, as a few other have mentioned. I think Marquardt has skill set to be number 2 in the division, therefore I'd like to see him fight the current #3 (Franklin) and the current #2 (Hendo). Then he can get back in there with Silva and go for a better result. I don't think Silva is planning a permanent move to 205, he's just going to cherry pick fights there and see how it goes. I think it's a mistake for him (but not for us, since we get to see him fight tougher competition). If someone at 205 catches him on the button (even Irvin is a possibility for that) then he plummets back to 185 with a lot of his mystique gone. If he keeps winning though, I'd love to see him fight Chuck. As far as Franklin goes, he's just mixing things up to see what happens. Don't see him getting another belt, certainly not at 205, but if he wins a few fights and Silva gets upset in the meantime (see Okami or Marquardt), he might get another title shot at 185. At 185 I would like to see Franklin fight Marquardt, as a few other have mentioned. I think Marquardt has skill set to be number 2 in the division, therefore I’d like to see him fight the current #3 (Franklin) and the current #2 (Hendo). Then he can get back in there with Silva and go for a better result.

I don’t think Silva is planning a permanent move to 205, he’s just going to cherry pick fights there and see how it goes. I think it’s a mistake for him (but not for us, since we get to see him fight tougher competition). If someone at 205 catches him on the button (even Irvin is a possibility for that) then he plummets back to 185 with a lot of his mystique gone.

If he keeps winning though, I’d love to see him fight Chuck. As far as Franklin goes, he’s just mixing things up to see what happens. Don’t see him getting another belt, certainly not at 205, but if he wins a few fights and Silva gets upset in the meantime (see Okami or Marquardt), he might get another title shot at 185.

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]]> By: David http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36180 David Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:18:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36180 The only reason for Franklin to fight at 205 is to avoid Silva. Silva moved to 205 Franklin's problem is solved. Its time for Kampman vs. Franklin then Marquardt vs Hollywood with the winners fighting for the "We can't beat Anderson Silva thank God he's moved up to bigger boys Vacant Middleweight Title" The only reason for Franklin to fight at 205 is to avoid Silva. Silva moved to 205 Franklin’s problem is solved. Its time for Kampman vs. Franklin then Marquardt vs Hollywood with the winners fighting for the “We can’t beat Anderson Silva thank God he’s moved up to bigger boys Vacant Middleweight Title”

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]]> By: Nick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36178 Nick Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:10:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36178 @6- Machida handled Franklin pretty easily the first time, why in the world would they make that matchup again? They want Rich to win, they have to much invested into him to feed him to Machida again. @7- I agree, I think there are quite a few fights at 185 for Franklin, but for some reason they are treating him like he doesn't have a future there. And I don't think Jardine will be fighting for a while after Wand destroyed him. He is probably waking up in a cold sweat evey night dreaming of Wand coming to eat him. @6- Machida handled Franklin pretty easily the first time, why in the world would they make that matchup again? They want Rich to win, they have to much invested into him to feed him to Machida again.

@7- I agree, I think there are quite a few fights at 185 for Franklin, but for some reason they are treating him like he doesn’t have a future there. And I don’t think Jardine will be fighting for a while after Wand destroyed him. He is probably waking up in a cold sweat evey night dreaming of Wand coming to eat him.

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]]> By: thomas http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36176 thomas Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:03:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36176 what not have franklin fight marquardt? or the winner of the cote almeida fight? there are still some quality fights for franklin at 185, no need for him to move into a stacked division. but if he does fight at 205, id like to see him fight thiago silva or maybe even jardine what not have franklin fight marquardt? or the winner of the cote almeida fight?

there are still some quality fights for franklin at 185, no need for him to move into a stacked division.

but if he does fight at 205, id like to see him fight thiago silva

or maybe even jardine

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]]> By: Dave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36166 Dave Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:25:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36166 If Rich is indeed moving up to 205, how about Rich vs Machida? Machida should be ready to fight again come September and since nobody else seems to want to fight him, I think Franklin might be the man for the job. I'm sure he would like an opportunity to avenge that loss and if Machida were to win, he beats one of the UFC's most well known fighters. It could only help him as he continues to move towards a title shot, especially if he finishes Rich again. Thoughts? If Rich is indeed moving up to 205, how about Rich vs Machida? Machida should be ready to fight again come September and since nobody else seems to want to fight him, I think Franklin might be the man for the job. I’m sure he would like an opportunity to avenge that loss and if Machida were to win, he beats one of the UFC’s most well known fighters. It could only help him as he continues to move towards a title shot, especially if he finishes Rich again. Thoughts?

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]]> By: James Coiwnock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36163 James Coiwnock Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36163 I couldn't agree more, both fighters have some interesting match-ups left but this is a fight that needs to happen now...before it realllllly doesn't matter. I couldn’t agree more, both fighters have some interesting match-ups left but this is a fight that needs to happen now…before it realllllly doesn’t matter.

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]]> By: michael obstaculo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36157 michael obstaculo Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:49:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36157 i don't want to see hendo vs. franklin, why ruin to good former champs? hendo needs to fight a. silva again and when he wins then they should fight for the belt but not before. hendo can't afford anotther lose i don’t want to see hendo vs. franklin, why ruin to good former champs? hendo needs to fight a. silva again and when he wins then they should fight for the belt but not before. hendo can’t afford anotther lose

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]]> By: Two Toes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36153 Two Toes Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:31:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36153 Matt Hamill. Matt Hamill.

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]]> By: Nick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36149 Nick Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:17:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36149 Adam, Dan Henderson was on TAGG radio yesterday and they asked him about a fight with Rich Franklin. he said he isn't against it, but he thinks its not being set up because it doens't make alot of sense for Rich right now. If Rich beats Dan, who else is there in the division for him to fight? they want to build him back up and deal with the Anderson Silva situation at that point. If he fights and beats Henderson now, he has beaten the number two guy in the division and is back to facing a fight with Anderson that no one wants to see right now. I kinda see his point, but I would still love to see Franklin and Hendo go at it. Although....Rich Franklin vs Andre Gumao is very interesting fight and could be set up for UFC 88. Just a thought..... Adam, Dan Henderson was on TAGG radio yesterday and they asked him about a fight with Rich Franklin. he said he isn’t against it, but he thinks its not being set up because it doens’t make alot of sense for Rich right now. If Rich beats Dan, who else is there in the division for him to fight? they want to build him back up and deal with the Anderson Silva situation at that point. If he fights and beats Henderson now, he has beaten the number two guy in the division and is back to facing a fight with Anderson that no one wants to see right now. I kinda see his point, but I would still love to see Franklin and Hendo go at it. Although….Rich Franklin vs Andre Gumao is very interesting fight and could be set up for UFC 88. Just a thought…..

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]]> By: laserline http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/comment-page-1/#comment-36148 laserline Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:16:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/01/report-rich-franklin-to-return-at-ufc-88/#comment-36148 Isn't Hendo facing Rousimar Polihares? Isn’t Hendo facing Rousimar Polihares?

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