Comments on: Dana White hints at dropping WEC middleweight and light heavyweight divisions http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 12:04:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: maddog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36924 maddog Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:57:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36924 #12 thats the joke. sorry it took so long to respond #12
thats the joke. sorry it took so long to respond

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36736 Rich S. Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:52:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36736 #17, i knew i would probably catch some crap from SOMEONE about that.. but, i stand but what i said.. he can get carried away sometimes and slug.. but he sets his shots up.. i mean, is it that much of a joke? would you compare him to Doug "Swing N' Miss" Marshall?? #17, i knew i would probably catch some crap from SOMEONE about that.. but, i stand but what i said.. he can get carried away sometimes and slug.. but he sets his shots up.. i mean, is it that much of a joke? would you compare him to Doug “Swing N’ Miss” Marshall??

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36732 Mike Wolfe Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:37:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36732 Zuffa ought to sign every promising prospect they can. If they're too raw for UFC, let 'em get some experience in WEC and then move 'em over. Once WEC got some depth at the heavier weight classes, they could have the fighters move back and forth. AFC vs NFC, AL vs NL. Zuffa ought to sign every promising prospect they can. If they’re too raw for UFC, let ‘em get some experience in WEC and then move ‘em over. Once WEC got some depth at the heavier weight classes, they could have the fighters move back and forth. AFC vs NFC, AL vs NL.

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]]> By: Nick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36643 Nick Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:31:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36643 @16- You called Brian Stann a TECHNICAL striker?????!!!!!!! I stopped reading the rest of your post after that comment. Brian Stann is far from technical. Take a boxing class and you will see what I mean. @16- You called Brian Stann a TECHNICAL striker?????!!!!!!!
I stopped reading the rest of your post after that comment. Brian Stann is far from technical. Take a boxing class and you will see what I mean.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36567 Rich S. Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:54:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36567 well, i think Stann is ready for the UFC.. i mean, not only are his hands heavy, but he's a technical striker, he's not just some wild slugger.. and Filho? of course he could hang in the UFC.. MW OR LHW.. it doesn't even matter with him.. but Doug Marshall? hell no. i've never thought of him as good.. and i knew that Stann would crush him.. Marshall was "KD'd" by James Irvin, who right now is probably considered part of the lower tier in the UFC's LHW division [i don't think so, but, many people do] so, if he couldn't handle The Sandman, what in the world would make me think he could handle Wandy, Franklin, Chuck, Rampage, or even Jardine.. plus.. didn't Marshall already sign a contract with a different org.? or was that just a 1-fight-thing? well, i think Stann is ready for the UFC.. i mean, not only are his hands heavy, but he’s a technical striker, he’s not just some wild slugger..

and Filho? of course he could hang in the UFC.. MW OR LHW.. it doesn’t even matter with him..

but Doug Marshall? hell no. i’ve never thought of him as good.. and i knew that Stann would crush him.. Marshall was “KD’d” by James Irvin, who right now is probably considered part of the lower tier in the UFC’s LHW division [i don't think so, but, many people do] so, if he couldn’t handle The Sandman, what in the world would make me think he could handle Wandy, Franklin, Chuck, Rampage, or even Jardine..

plus.. didn’t Marshall already sign a contract with a different org.? or was that just a 1-fight-thing?

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]]> By: Scottie G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36562 Scottie G Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:31:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36562 Marshall 100% should drop to 185 if he went to the UFC. Marshall 100% should drop to 185 if he went to the UFC.

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]]> By: ShiTSoN http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36555 ShiTSoN Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:53:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36555 #13 egad I have a lot of wrestling experience, and i'm telling you a 20-30 lbs. weight drop in a couple months isn't that bad. And a 5-8 lbs. cut would only take about 2-3hrs total to cut! There is absolutley NO WAY fighters across the board cut less than 10lbs. avg. EVER. There is too much of an edge to be gained by being bigger, stronger. And as long as you do it over those couple months of training, you wont be drained come fight time. #13 egad

I have a lot of wrestling experience, and i’m telling you a 20-30 lbs. weight drop in a couple months isn’t that bad. And a 5-8 lbs. cut would only take about 2-3hrs total to cut! There is absolutley NO WAY fighters across the board cut less than 10lbs. avg. EVER. There is too much of an edge to be gained by being bigger, stronger. And as long as you do it over those couple months of training, you wont be drained come fight time.

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]]> By: egad81 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36553 egad81 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:46:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36553 I think the entire sports is in need of a nice overhaul. Like anything else the rules and weights are going to change as time goes on. In my opinion guys like Rampage should really be fighting at Heavy Weight 230 - 265 265+ is Super Heavy. Cutting weight hurts the Athlete. I could see 5-8 pound cuts be these guys cutting 20-30 pounds is just bad. I would like to see Stann in the UFC. I wouldnt through him to Silva at first but see how he does against a guy like Bonner. Filho has issues and is not going to be around long if he dont get them worked out. JMO I think the entire sports is in need of a nice overhaul. Like anything else the rules and weights are going to change as time goes on.
In my opinion guys like Rampage should really be fighting at Heavy Weight 230 – 265 265+ is Super Heavy.
Cutting weight hurts the Athlete. I could see 5-8 pound cuts be these guys cutting 20-30 pounds is just bad.

I would like to see Stann in the UFC. I wouldnt through him to Silva at first but see how he does against a guy like Bonner. Filho has issues and is not going to be around long if he dont get them worked out.

JMO

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]]> By: ShiTSoN http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36551 ShiTSoN Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:41:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36551 #11 Maddog.... "the wec hw division is better than exc as it sits now." You do realize that WEC has no Heavy Weight Division right? #11 Maddog…. “the wec hw division is better than exc as it sits now.”

You do realize that WEC has no Heavy Weight Division right?

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]]> By: maddog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36539 maddog Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:49:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36539 #6 the olny problem with what you say is zuffa has a minor league.....everyone else. the wec hw division is better than exc as it sits now. #6

the olny problem with what you say is zuffa has a minor league…..everyone else. the wec hw division is better than exc as it sits now.

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]]> By: DPK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36520 DPK Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:15:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36520 I agree with #6 that WEC should be used as a minor league developmental league for UFC, I actually think they would benefit from adding a HW division instead of cutting the MW and LHWs. Of course, I also think that 135, and 145 should be added to UFC. Munoz at 205, or 185 is another fighter who isn't ready to contend in UFC, but with some time and development he could be a force down the road. I agree with #6 that WEC should be used as a minor league developmental league for UFC, I actually think they would benefit from adding a HW division instead of cutting the MW and LHWs. Of course, I also think that 135, and 145 should be added to UFC.

Munoz at 205, or 185 is another fighter who isn’t ready to contend in UFC, but with some time and development he could be a force down the road.

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]]> By: ShiTSoN http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36489 ShiTSoN Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:28:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36489 I was suprised to see that Sonnen wasn't mentioned in the piece, especially when Stann and Marshall were. Maybe Paul didn't see the last Fihlo v. Sonnen fight, but Chael may have knocked him out for a second with that slam, and he didn't tap. He trains in a great camp, this guy definitely makes it in the UFC imo. I don't think the Rhino stands a chance for more thank two fights. Brian Stann will get in and will be given good matchups until he develops. He's too marketable for Zuffa to pass on. I was suprised to see that Sonnen wasn’t mentioned in the piece, especially when Stann and Marshall were. Maybe Paul didn’t see the last Fihlo v. Sonnen fight, but Chael may have knocked him out for a second with that slam, and he didn’t tap. He trains in a great camp, this guy definitely makes it in the UFC imo. I don’t think the Rhino stands a chance for more thank two fights. Brian Stann will get in and will be given good matchups until he develops. He’s too marketable for Zuffa to pass on.

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]]> By: bjjdenver http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36482 bjjdenver Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:51:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36482 #7 GB, on the other side of the coin, it has fighters available to improve other promotions rosters, like EXC, where these guys may achieve more success and thus more money. #7 GB,

on the other side of the coin, it has fighters available to improve other promotions rosters, like EXC, where these guys may achieve more success and thus more money.

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]]> By: GB http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36473 GB Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:21:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36473 This is bad news. It narrows down the number of top-exposure organizations in which fighters can compete. There was never a serious effort to develop these two weight divisions, but I think it would have been a great place to promote new talent outside of TUF as well as sending a few competent fighters who couldn't just cut it in the UFC (Eastman, Sakara, etc.) to act as gatekeepers for the new guys. This is bad news. It narrows down the number of top-exposure organizations in which fighters can compete. There was never a serious effort to develop these two weight divisions, but I think it would have been a great place to promote new talent outside of TUF as well as sending a few competent fighters who couldn’t just cut it in the UFC (Eastman, Sakara, etc.) to act as gatekeepers for the new guys.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36464 Mike Wolfe Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:55:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36464 I'd prefer that WEC keep the middleweights and light heavies. Maybe those guys aren't ready for UFC, but why not use the WEC like AAA in baseball? It's better for the fans and the fighters to have televised fights, even if they're not UFC. I’d prefer that WEC keep the middleweights and light heavies. Maybe those guys aren’t ready for UFC, but why not use the WEC like AAA in baseball? It’s better for the fans and the fighters to have televised fights, even if they’re not UFC.

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36460 Evan Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:48:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36460 I kinda agree Kelvin but he deservers a shot I think. I kinda agree Kelvin but he deservers a shot I think.

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36448 Kelvin Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:15:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36448 Stann, Filho, Sonnen...yes....but please leave Doug Marshall out... Stann, Filho, Sonnen…yes….but please leave Doug Marshall out…

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]]> By: bjjdenver http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36447 bjjdenver Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:12:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36447 So basically, Filho is coming to the UFC. Sonnen, may also hang at 185. Stann is marketable, but not at UFC level right now and it feels more like a thanks Rhino, here are a couple of fights in the UFC, then we'll see you in some other org. Honestly, outside of Filho and maybe Sonnen, I don't see these guys making it in the UFC. I hope I'm wrong, so we'll see. So basically, Filho is coming to the UFC. Sonnen, may also hang at 185. Stann is marketable, but not at UFC level right now and it feels more like a thanks Rhino, here are a couple of fights in the UFC, then we’ll see you in some other org.

Honestly, outside of Filho and maybe Sonnen, I don’t see these guys making it in the UFC. I hope I’m wrong, so we’ll see.

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]]> By: Nick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36445 Nick Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:54:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36445 I truly believe Filho is the second best 185lber in the world. Problem is he is not staying there. He said in a interview recently that this fight with Sonnen is his last at 185, the weight cut is just too much. I think Filho at 205 is even more interesting to be honest. I truly believe Filho is the second best 185lber in the world. Problem is he is not staying there. He said in a interview recently that this fight with Sonnen is his last at 185, the weight cut is just too much. I think Filho at 205 is even more interesting to be honest.

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]]> By: matt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-36443 matt Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:46:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/02/dana-white-hints-at-dropping-wec-middleweight-and-light-heavyweight-divisions/#comment-36443 Wait, so what about the talent heavy UFC lightweight division and the sparse WEC LW division? and Stann isn't ready for the UFC but he is a future star. Wait, so what about the talent heavy UFC lightweight division and the sparse WEC LW division?

and Stann isn’t ready for the UFC but he is a future star.

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