Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain Presents: The DUEL http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:14:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37140 Jackyl Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:59:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37140 Herring has faced top competiton but I don't see him competing with Lesnar's athleticism. Herring is not a submission expert like Mir and I don't see him controlling Brock on the ground. This fight plays into Lesnar's strengths more than a lot of people are thinking. And I know all of you loved it that Mir beat Brock so fast but the fact is that Mir owes that win to Mazzagatti. When do you ever see a standup and a point deduction for ONE punch to the back/side of the head while the opponent was turning away? No warning or anything. Mir was in trouble and Mazz bailed him out. Regardless, I don't see Herring subbing him, don't see him getting a ko, and don't see him controling Lesnar enough to grind out a decision. Brock by tko stoppage round 2. Herring has faced top competiton but I don’t see him competing with Lesnar’s athleticism. Herring is not a submission expert like Mir and I don’t see him controlling Brock on the ground. This fight plays into Lesnar’s strengths more than a lot of people are thinking. And I know all of you loved it that Mir beat Brock so fast but the fact is that Mir owes that win to Mazzagatti. When do you ever see a standup and a point deduction for ONE punch to the back/side of the head while the opponent was turning away? No warning or anything. Mir was in trouble and Mazz bailed him out. Regardless, I don’t see Herring subbing him, don’t see him getting a ko, and don’t see him controling Lesnar enough to grind out a decision. Brock by tko stoppage round 2.

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37127 Cathedron Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:33:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37127 I'm far from a Lesnar groupie (his loss to Mir won me some money), but I don't see Heath Herring being too dangerous for Brock. Lesnar can take the fight to the ground at will. I don't care how tough Herring is, he's a cocky doofus who cares more about putting on a show than getting a win. I think Heath is in for a beating. I’m far from a Lesnar groupie (his loss to Mir won me some money), but I don’t see Heath Herring being too dangerous for Brock. Lesnar can take the fight to the ground at will. I don’t care how tough Herring is, he’s a cocky doofus who cares more about putting on a show than getting a win. I think Heath is in for a beating.

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]]> By: Sam Cupitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37122 Sam Cupitt Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:52:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37122 I must say in my defense, I had no idea we would be running with my little idea. Huckaby gave me no indication and preferred to chastise me through his position of Duelmaster. Such tactics are lame and I will be forced to Duel it out with the little beesnatch in the future if shit like this is pulled again. Yours Sincerley, Angry Mob. I must say in my defense, I had no idea we would be running with my little idea. Huckaby gave me no indication and preferred to chastise me through his position of Duelmaster.

Such tactics are lame and I will be forced to Duel it out with the little beesnatch in the future if shit like this is pulled again.

Yours Sincerley, Angry Mob.

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]]> By: Caleb Mock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37072 Caleb Mock Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:49:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37072 I don't know how Herring can beat Lesnar. Based on my experience in Wrestling and Jujitsu, it doesn't take too long for a wrestler (especially one of Lesnar's caliber) to learn top control. And there's no doubt in my mind that Lesnar can take down Herring. Kongo took Herring down. Freakin' Kongo. I don’t know how Herring can beat Lesnar. Based on my experience in Wrestling and Jujitsu, it doesn’t take too long for a wrestler (especially one of Lesnar’s caliber) to learn top control.

And there’s no doubt in my mind that Lesnar can take down Herring. Kongo took Herring down. Freakin’ Kongo.

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]]> By: Jeff L http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37065 Jeff L Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:08:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37065 Point taken. My apologies then to you, Hex. I need to lay off the Sherdog for awhile, as I'm beginning to assume everyone is out to belittle everyone else. I think Rampage in 3 makes a lot of sense as well. :) Point taken. My apologies then to you, Hex. I need to lay off the Sherdog for awhile, as I’m beginning to assume everyone is out to belittle everyone else. I think Rampage in 3 makes a lot of sense as well. :)

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37048 HexRei Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:45:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37048 And I do appreciate your enthusiasm for the sport man, that's the most important thing. And I do appreciate your enthusiasm for the sport man, that’s the most important thing.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37047 HexRei Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:40:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37047 @#10 Ram, thanks for the reasonable explanation. I was perhaps overly negative in my first post, certainly I didn't mean specifically to target you. Your point is taken, and I didn't mean to get people all riled up. But Forrest is goin down in the 4th ;) (maybe the third though) @#10 Ram, thanks for the reasonable explanation. I was perhaps overly negative in my first post, certainly I didn’t mean specifically to target you. Your point is taken, and I didn’t mean to get people all riled up. But Forrest is goin down in the 4th ;) (maybe the third though)

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37044 Evan Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:31:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37044 HexRei...I would be shocked if anyone didn't spend some time reviewing a fighters body of work before writing a prediction. There is simply far too many fighters and far too many fights to have a mental Rolodex of everyone without brushing up event if you only spend 3 minutes doing it. Ram...shoot me an email if you could. HexRei…I would be shocked if anyone didn’t spend some time reviewing a fighters body of work before writing a prediction. There is simply far too many fighters and far too many fights to have a mental Rolodex of everyone without brushing up event if you only spend 3 minutes doing it.

Ram…shoot me an email if you could.

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]]> By: Ram Maramba http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37024 Ram Maramba Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:16:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37024 HR: I think it was me that used both phrases; I commented on one of Caplan's posts about Rampage a couple days ago. The only "new" fights I hadn't seen before boning up were his K-1 bouts with Abidi. The rest of my "due diligence" was regarding his high school wrestling, Juanito Ibarra and, oddly enough, his family life. I also tried to look into his relationship with Hammer House quite a bit, something I'd never done. Honestly, I have only seen a little more than half of his fights and not all of his PRIDE fights. Peeking at his Fight Finder ledger, I haven't seen the Matsui or Ishikawa fights nor have I seen his smaller org bouts. I research every main-eventer we're expected to cover; it's par for the course. With Jackson in particular however, maybe due to such a long stretch without seeing him in action, I was a bit surprised to see how consistently explosive he is. The Arona slam is replayed over and over again; it's easy to forget how often he displays the same exciting power in other fights. I got the same feeling watching Fedor fight freakin' Hong Man Choi. It's huge part of what makes this game so much fun for me. The athletic prowess these guys display is never short of amazing, even the 50th time around. I appreciate the support Jeff, but HexRei is a good guy who contributes quote a bit tou or little 5oz. community. I didn't mean to sound like a dick and I apologize if I did. I just thought it odd that of all things, I'd be brought to task for trying to remain educated. That's a curve... HR:

I think it was me that used both phrases; I commented on one of Caplan’s posts about Rampage a couple days ago.

The only “new” fights I hadn’t seen before boning up were his K-1 bouts with Abidi. The rest of my “due diligence” was regarding his high school wrestling, Juanito Ibarra and, oddly enough, his family life. I also tried to look into his relationship with Hammer House quite a bit, something I’d never done. Honestly, I have only seen a little more than half of his fights and not all of his PRIDE fights. Peeking at his Fight Finder ledger, I haven’t seen the Matsui or Ishikawa fights nor have I seen his smaller org bouts.

I research every main-eventer we’re expected to cover; it’s par for the course. With Jackson in particular however, maybe due to such a long stretch without seeing him in action, I was a bit surprised to see how consistently explosive he is. The Arona slam is replayed over and over again; it’s easy to forget how often he displays the same exciting power in other fights. I got the same feeling watching Fedor fight freakin’ Hong Man Choi. It’s huge part of what makes this game so much fun for me. The athletic prowess these guys display is never short of amazing, even the 50th time around.

I appreciate the support Jeff, but HexRei is a good guy who contributes quote a bit tou or little 5oz. community. I didn’t mean to sound like a dick and I apologize if I did. I just thought it odd that of all things, I’d be brought to task for trying to remain educated. That’s a curve…

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/comment-page-1/#comment-37020 HexRei Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:01:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/04/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-12/#comment-37020 @#8 Jeff, I never said shit about that knowing everything off hand. I replied to Ram already and explained my position, feel free to read it, it's the two posts before yours. @#8 Jeff, I never said shit about that knowing everything off hand. I replied to Ram already and explained my position, feel free to read it, it’s the two posts before yours.

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