Comments on: UFC 86: Quick Results http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 12:13:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: E http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37652 E Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:47:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37652 Uh How come no one has mentioned that Gonzaga won via Americana. Big difference between a kimura and an americana Uh

How come no one has mentioned that Gonzaga won via Americana. Big difference between a kimura and an americana

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]]> By: Two Toes http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37475 Two Toes Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:51:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37475 "I am sick of watching sucky TUF fighters." You're a moron. Tuf fighters went 5-1 on this card with 1 of them winning the LHW title. “I am sick of watching sucky TUF fighters.”

You’re a moron. Tuf fighters went 5-1 on this card with 1 of them winning the LHW title.

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]]> By: Nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37414 Nate Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:08:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37414 4 decisions on the televised card? Not good. The ref seemed to do a particularly good job with Kos vs Lytle's match. Koshcheck = 50% decision matches (w+l) Machida = 64% decision matches (w, he hasnt lost) Anyone with 50+ decisions sucks automatically. Many people complain about Machida, well I am complaining about Koscheck. Koscheck, if you are reading this, I am a coward online fan, but I dont like your style.. it sucks! "# 43 kirby" I think it is past your bedtime, your logic on the Pride vs TUF thing makes no sense. Anderson Silva is from Pride, how does that compare with Forrest or Serra (who lost his belt in his first defense), and Forrest who is the first person in 7 TUF seasons to win it "Naturally". On another note, Dana is scheduling TUF guys like they are a K-Mart blue light special in aisle 4. They fill almost every card. I am sick of watching sucky TUF fighters. This card is a perfect example. Snoozefest 86 it should have been called. 4 decisions on the televised card? Not good.

The ref seemed to do a particularly good job with Kos vs Lytle’s match.
Koshcheck = 50% decision matches (w+l)
Machida = 64% decision matches (w, he hasnt lost)
Anyone with 50+ decisions sucks automatically. Many people complain about Machida, well I am complaining about Koscheck. Koscheck, if you are reading this, I am a coward online fan, but I dont like your style.. it sucks!

“# 43 kirby” I think it is past your bedtime, your logic on the Pride vs TUF thing makes no sense. Anderson Silva is from Pride, how does that compare with Forrest or Serra (who lost his belt in his first defense), and Forrest who is the first person in 7 TUF seasons to win it “Naturally”.
On another note, Dana is scheduling TUF guys like they are a K-Mart blue light special in aisle 4. They fill almost every card. I am sick of watching sucky TUF fighters. This card is a perfect example. Snoozefest 86 it should have been called.

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]]> By: kirby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37399 kirby Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:21:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37399 One thing that always bothers me is people saying how Pride has 3 of the belts so that proves the Pride was better than te UFC. I'm not saying Pride wasn't better or worse I'm just saying those people anoy me. My response will now be Forrest and Serra prove TUF is better than Pride was. So as a Rampage fan that's my silver lining in this loss. Also congrats to Forrest and he better keep that belt shinny because Rampage will be taking it right back from him. One thing that always bothers me is people saying how Pride has 3 of the belts so that proves the Pride was better than te UFC. I’m not saying Pride wasn’t better or worse I’m just saying those people anoy me. My response will now be Forrest and Serra prove TUF is better than Pride was. So as a Rampage fan that’s my silver lining in this loss. Also congrats to Forrest and he better keep that belt shinny because Rampage will be taking it right back from him.

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]]> By: Maximus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37391 Maximus Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:39:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37391 Hey King rah rah, Whats wrong with being a hardcore fan? Hey King rah rah, Whats wrong with being a hardcore fan?

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]]> By: MMAFan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37336 MMAFan Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:12:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37336 #36 "Who does Gonzaga fight next? If UFC wants to test Carwin, I think that would be a good fight." How about Gonzaga vs Kongo? I think the UFC could get more hype from a match that pits against each other the two fighters to beat Cro Cop in the UFC. #36 “Who does Gonzaga fight next? If UFC wants to test Carwin, I think
that would be a good fight.”

How about Gonzaga vs Kongo? I think the UFC could get more hype from a match that pits against each other the two fighters to beat Cro Cop in the UFC.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37333 Rich S. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:12:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37333 "i thought that this fight would pass the 3 min. mark" *wouldn't “i thought that this fight would pass the 3 min. mark”

*wouldn’t

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37331 Rich S. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:10:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37331 this card is just... perplexing.. first, i know Cole Miller's sub's are really good.. but i never saw him triangle'ing Gurgel possible.. so, that's just weird.. second, extremely, extremely, extremely sad that Lytle lost.. he just needs to take a few tune-ups.. and i KNOW he can be a contender.. IMHO, i think he could easily hold a belt in the WEC.. it's just that the UFC's WW competition is INSANE.. Lytle's a great fighter and one of my favorites.. so it was horrible to see him dominated in that fashion.. third, glad for Stevenson with the guillotine.. but he needs to watch it.. i mean, he was clearly losing the fight before that guillotine, so, maybe he should turn down the "cocky" and turn up the "ownage".. fourth, i really think Melvin's telling the truth when he says he's working on his ground game.. i mean, i know everyone on this site hates him [i guess just because he's a cocky-coke-head] but no one can say that he wouldn't be absolutely dominant with the addition of a good, solid ground game.. fifth, never in 1 BILLION YEARS would i have seen Cote beating Almeida coming.. i thought if there was one person left, in this world, after Okami, that could stand a chance at possibly beating Spider, it would be Almeida.. but no, now we're going to see Cote get mutilated.. i mean, i thought that this fight would pass the 3 min. mark.. i thought, either Cote will get some random KO, or Almeida will sub him with ease.. instead.. Almeida got him down.. and let him up, every single time.. i mean, cote just stood up out of his guard and walked away... WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?? Almeida's one of the best MW bjj'ers around.. and he was letting this guy stand up.. and then.. after round 1.. he didn't even try anymore.. what kind of gameplan is that?? "hmmmm, i'm a BJJ specialist.. you know what? i think i'll strike with a KO artist for the next 2 rounds.. yea, sounds like a good idea.." YOU FOOOOOOOL!! i can't stand Cote, and to see him win this fight, deeply deeply saddens me.. i mean, i would've put my house on Almeida winning.. sixth, it's a shame i couldn't see Tyson lose.. he got YET ANOTHER DECISION.. isn't that his 5th in a row??? how can someone have so much energy and so much skill, and NOT BE ABLE TO FINISH A FIGHT IN ANY ASPECT.. he's working his way up the LW ladder only to get crushed.. i can't wait.. overall, i liked this card.. and I'M SOOOOO HAPPY FORREST WON, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW FREAKIN' BAFFLED I AM.. I WAS JUST SCREAMING AT THE TV "BLOCK, BLOCK, RUN AWAY, AHHHHH!!!" for five looooong rounds.. there's one bad thing about forrest getting this belt.. and that is.. we might have to see him take a devistating loss.. i mean, the possible match-ups for him are just mean: Wandy Rich "Ace" Liddell those are the only ones i think would trouble him.. and i think he could beat all of them.. it's just.. they all have a chance at knocking him the f out!! but.. i'll enjoy this one while it lasts.. GRATZ!!! this card is just… perplexing..

first, i know Cole Miller’s sub’s are really good.. but i never saw him triangle’ing Gurgel possible.. so, that’s just weird..

second, extremely, extremely, extremely sad that Lytle lost.. he just needs to take a few tune-ups.. and i KNOW he can be a contender.. IMHO, i think he could easily hold a belt in the WEC.. it’s just that the UFC’s WW competition is INSANE.. Lytle’s a great fighter and one of my favorites.. so it was horrible to see him dominated in that fashion..

third, glad for Stevenson with the guillotine.. but he needs to watch it.. i mean, he was clearly losing the fight before that guillotine, so, maybe he should turn down the “cocky” and turn up the “ownage”..

fourth, i really think Melvin’s telling the truth when he says he’s working on his ground game.. i mean, i know everyone on this site hates him [i guess just because he's a cocky-coke-head] but no one can say that he wouldn’t be absolutely dominant with the addition of a good, solid ground game..

fifth, never in 1 BILLION YEARS would i have seen Cote beating Almeida coming.. i thought if there was one person left, in this world, after Okami, that could stand a chance at possibly beating Spider, it would be Almeida.. but no, now we’re going to see Cote get mutilated.. i mean, i thought that this fight would pass the 3 min. mark.. i thought, either Cote will get some random KO, or Almeida will sub him with ease.. instead.. Almeida got him down.. and let him up, every single time.. i mean, cote just stood up out of his guard and walked away… WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?? Almeida’s one of the best MW bjj’ers around.. and he was letting this guy stand up.. and then.. after round 1.. he didn’t even try anymore.. what kind of gameplan is that?? “hmmmm, i’m a BJJ specialist.. you know what? i think i’ll strike with a KO artist for the next 2 rounds.. yea, sounds like a good idea..”

YOU FOOOOOOOL!!

i can’t stand Cote, and to see him win this fight, deeply deeply saddens me.. i mean, i would’ve put my house on Almeida winning..

sixth, it’s a shame i couldn’t see Tyson lose.. he got YET ANOTHER DECISION.. isn’t that his 5th in a row??? how can someone have so much energy and so much skill, and NOT BE ABLE TO FINISH A FIGHT IN ANY ASPECT.. he’s working his way up the LW ladder only to get crushed.. i can’t wait..

overall, i liked this card.. and I’M SOOOOO HAPPY FORREST WON, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW FREAKIN’ BAFFLED I AM.. I WAS JUST SCREAMING AT THE TV “BLOCK, BLOCK, RUN AWAY, AHHHHH!!!” for five looooong rounds..

there’s one bad thing about forrest getting this belt..
and that is.. we might have to see him take a devistating loss..
i mean, the possible match-ups for him are just mean:
Wandy
Rich “Ace”
Liddell

those are the only ones i think would trouble him.. and i think he could beat all of them.. it’s just.. they all have a chance at knocking him the f out!!

but.. i’ll enjoy this one while it lasts..

GRATZ!!!

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37319 mike wolfe Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:01:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37319 #38 I think you're right about Koschek laying back a bit in the third round. Lytle's a pretty good guy, and Koschek had the fight in the bag at that point. Koschek's trying to soften his image somewhat, so beating down a guy who's already lost wouldn't help either of them. #38

I think you’re right about Koschek laying back a bit in the third round. Lytle’s a pretty good guy, and Koschek had the fight in the bag at that point. Koschek’s trying to soften his image somewhat, so beating down a guy who’s already lost wouldn’t help either of them.

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37309 stevefiji Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:49:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37309 One final comment as i dont like guys who dominate posts.... To Jeremy - > big hugs, I am a happy camper right now and it was certainly an honest mistake on your part, you musta had tears in your eyes with joy from Forrest's victory and you just dyslexia'd (if that's a word) a 10-9 round...no worries mate :-) To #14 (5 Percent body fat) It was obvious to everyone that Koscheck didn't want to bleed the poor guy anymore,...hell, Koshchek looked like Bozo the clown from all of Lytle's blood in his previously blond curlies. He respected Lytle huge and anyone with a brain who was watching felt that fight should have never gone a 3rd round. All it did was add 3 more months of heal time for Lytle before he can fight again with that 'Goat Vagina' (and what a great line that was by Joe Rogan, eh?) on the top of his eye. To 5 Ozs of Pain - I must also send out bigtime Kudos, the site is rockin, the traffic is exploding and you couldn't deserve it all more. You guys are doin a fantastic job! One final comment as i dont like guys who dominate posts….

To Jeremy – > big hugs, I am a happy camper right now and it was certainly an honest mistake on your part, you musta had tears in your eyes with joy from Forrest’s victory and you just dyslexia’d (if that’s a word) a 10-9 round…no worries mate :-)

To #14 (5 Percent body fat) It was obvious to everyone that Koscheck didn’t want to bleed the poor guy anymore,…hell, Koshchek looked like Bozo the clown from all of Lytle’s blood in his previously blond curlies. He respected Lytle huge and anyone with a brain who was watching felt that fight should have never gone a 3rd round. All it did was add 3 more months of heal time for Lytle before he can fight again with that ‘Goat Vagina’ (and what a great line that was by Joe Rogan, eh?) on the top of his eye.

To 5 Ozs of Pain – I must also send out bigtime Kudos, the site is rockin, the traffic is exploding and you couldn’t deserve it all more. You guys are doin a fantastic job!

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]]> By: Charlie http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37307 Charlie Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:48:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37307 I wonder if Rampage is giving all his fight money to Forrest lol. If you guys remember, Rampage said on TUF "I BET MY WHOLE PURSE OUR FIGHT DOESN'T GO FIVE ROUNDS!" if any of you journalists get to interview rampage, you should ask lol I wonder if Rampage is giving all his fight money to Forrest lol. If you guys remember, Rampage said on TUF “I BET MY WHOLE PURSE OUR FIGHT DOESN’T GO FIVE ROUNDS!”

if any of you journalists get to interview rampage, you should ask lol

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]]> By: Jeremy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37290 Jeremy Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:35:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37290 #34stevefiji - not trying to cause any controversy, just mis-read his round score. Relax my friend. Luckily it was just that, since I drink about as much as our friendly chew contaminator. #34stevefiji – not trying to cause any controversy, just mis-read his round score. Relax my friend. Luckily it was just that, since I drink about as much as our friendly chew contaminator.

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]]> By: DPK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37284 DPK Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:32:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37284 No issues with the Forrest v Rampage scores, I had Forrest winning 2(10-8), 3, and 5. I think he just showed that maybe the Shogun fight wasn't a fluke. A re-match would be good, personally I think Machida deserves the next shot, but I see UFC setting up a Forrest v Chuck fight if Chuck beat Rashad. They will use the TUF student v teacher angle to promote that. Rampage will probably end up fighting Wandy or Shogun. One of the guys watching the fight with me had money on Rampage, and even he thought Forrest won. -I was disappointed by Alemdia, but Cote earned that win -I was surprised that the docs didn't stop Lytle, but glad they didn't -Nice win for Joe Daddy, I was surprised that he was getting handled up to the sub -Tyson Griffin's next fight should be Sherk, or the Florian v Huerta loser its time he stepped up to the very top of LW. -Who does Gonzaga fight next? If UFC wants to test Carwin, I think that would be a good fight. No issues with the Forrest v Rampage scores, I had Forrest winning 2(10-8), 3, and 5. I think he just showed that maybe the Shogun fight wasn’t a fluke. A re-match would be good, personally I think Machida deserves the next shot, but I see UFC setting up a Forrest v Chuck fight if Chuck beat Rashad. They will use the TUF student v teacher angle to promote that. Rampage will probably end up fighting Wandy or Shogun. One of the guys watching the fight with me had money on Rampage, and even he thought Forrest won.

-I was disappointed by Alemdia, but Cote earned that win
-I was surprised that the docs didn’t stop Lytle, but glad they didn’t
-Nice win for Joe Daddy, I was surprised that he was getting handled up to the sub
-Tyson Griffin’s next fight should be Sherk, or the Florian v Huerta loser its time he stepped up to the very top of LW.
-Who does Gonzaga fight next? If UFC wants to test Carwin, I think that would be a good fight.

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37277 king mah mah Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:29:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37277 I'm still laughing at the self proclaimed "hardcore fans", by not picking Forrest in this fight. I knew Forrest would win! I’m still laughing at the self proclaimed “hardcore fans”, by not picking Forrest in this fight. I knew Forrest would win!

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37274 stevefiji Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:28:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37274 Just a quick follow-up to #22 Jeremy (must be trying to stir up fake controversy) May... next time you should use both your hands AND toes to count because Mike Fridley had scored it, quite correctly so, at 48-46 Griffin and not a draw as you claim. Time to go pound a few more fake vodka shots my friend:-)... Cheers Mates! Just a quick follow-up to #22 Jeremy (must be trying to stir up fake controversy) May… next time you should use both your hands AND toes to count because Mike Fridley had scored it, quite correctly so, at 48-46 Griffin and not a draw as you claim. Time to go pound a few more fake vodka shots my friend:-)… Cheers Mates!

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]]> By: docholiday http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37267 docholiday Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:24:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37267 judging controversy aside, rampage's performance was extremely disappointing (trigg may have been spot on with his pre-fight analysis). looked like a completely different fighter vs henderson. judging controversy aside, rampage’s performance was extremely disappointing (trigg may have been spot on with his pre-fight analysis). looked like a completely different fighter vs henderson.

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]]> By: that guy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37261 that guy Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:23:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37261 @11...you need to not listen to the commentators..everytime they said forrest was rocked you took it to heart....rampages leg was rocked!! forrest chin got rocked @11…you need to not listen to the commentators..everytime they said forrest was rocked you took it to heart….rampages leg was rocked!! forrest chin got rocked

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37257 king mah mah Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:21:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37257 The whole card was pretty good i thought. The whole card was pretty good i thought.

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]]> By: xx2000xx http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37256 xx2000xx Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:21:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37256 Wow, my god Sam. The site is having problems loading up for the first time ever for me, and that's a good thing :-) Sherdog is down along with others, and you are right there with them. You now hit the big time :-) Wow, my god Sam. The site is having problems loading up for the first time ever for me, and that’s a good thing :-) Sherdog is down along with others, and you are right there with them.

You now hit the big time :-)

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]]> By: MMAFan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37251 MMAFan Sun, 06 Jul 2008 05:19:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/05/ufc-86-quick-results/#comment-37251 The Jackson vs Griffin match elevated this PPV from a 1 out of 10 to a 3 out of 10. The Jackson vs Griffin match elevated this PPV from a 1 out of 10 to a 3 out of 10.

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