Comments on: Official scorecards for Jackson vs. Griffin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 12:13:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jerry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37955 Jerry Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:28:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37955 Oh wait here's how we do things... Get in the cage and throw a bunch of stuff that doesn' t even come close to landing... just throw a lot of it. We'll call it "pushing the pace" and give you the belt. Have a nice day. Oh wait here’s how we do things…

Get in the cage and throw a bunch of stuff that doesn’ t even come close to landing… just throw a lot of it.

We’ll call it “pushing the pace” and give you the belt.

Have a nice day.

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]]> By: Fist of Fury Brown http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37954 Fist of Fury Brown Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:27:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37954 WOW is all I can say to that decision. Round 1 10-9 Jackson Clearly Rampage won this round, although Forrest had a good display the first 90 seconds of this round, Rampage clearly took it. Yes, Forrest did throw more punches, but he not only caused less damage he also landed a lower percentage of hits. Many think that Griff was winning all but the last 90 seconds of this round, that is a joke, like i said they traded a similar amount of blows for the first 90 seconds before Rampage started to pull away. To secure the round Page scored a knock down. Round 2 10-8 Griffin Griffin clearly damaged Rampages left leg with repeated leg kicks, which he took advantage of by taking Rampage to the ground. Once on the ground he continued to ground and pound Page for the remainder of the round, 4 minutes. Rounds 3 and 4 10-9 Jackson Many would say that these were the closest rounds. Thats hilarious. Not only did Jackson land a higher percentage of hits. He landed more head and body shots as well as more power shots, which everyone knows scores higher then a jab or cross. Yes, Griffin was more active, but in a none effective manor. Which is evident in his lower hit percentages. As far as damage, Rampage clearly caused more, although Griffin did continue fighting, which everyone knew was going to happen, Griffin has the bigest heart in the world. Here is the kicker Rampage was the Undisputed Light Heavy Weight Champion of the World. Which means that if ever a round was to close to call it would go to Jackson by default, and in order for a competitor to win period he would have to clearly win the round. Round 5 10-9 Rampage or Jackson??? 10-9 Jackson in my opinion but I could understand the opposite. I would say that this was the hardest round to call. They traded, plain and simple. Griffin, like through out the fight, was more active. Jackson, also like through out the fight, caused more damage and landed a higher percentage of hits. Closing 48-46 Jackson (my scoring) 47-47 Draw is understandable The judging was terrible. The only two options were a DRAW or a win for Jackson. Although many will deny it, im sure RACE was a big factor in the fight. WOW is all I can say to that decision.

Round 1
10-9 Jackson
Clearly Rampage won this round, although Forrest had a good display the first 90 seconds of this round, Rampage clearly took it. Yes, Forrest did throw more punches, but he not only caused less damage he also landed a lower percentage of hits.
Many think that Griff was winning all but the last 90 seconds of this round, that is a joke, like i said they traded a similar amount of blows for the first 90 seconds before Rampage started to pull away.
To secure the round Page scored a knock down.

Round 2
10-8 Griffin
Griffin clearly damaged Rampages left leg with repeated leg kicks, which he took advantage of by taking Rampage to the ground. Once on the ground he continued to ground and pound Page for the remainder of the round, 4 minutes.

Rounds 3 and 4
10-9 Jackson
Many would say that these were the closest rounds. Thats hilarious. Not only did Jackson land a higher percentage of hits. He landed more head and body shots as well as more power shots, which everyone knows scores higher then a jab or cross.
Yes, Griffin was more active, but in a none effective manor. Which is evident in his lower hit percentages.
As far as damage, Rampage clearly caused more, although Griffin did continue fighting, which everyone knew was going to happen, Griffin has the bigest heart in the world.

Here is the kicker Rampage was the Undisputed Light Heavy Weight Champion of the World. Which means that if ever a round was to close to call it would go to Jackson by default, and in order for a competitor to win period he would have to clearly win the round.

Round 5
10-9 Rampage or Jackson???
10-9 Jackson in my opinion but I could understand the opposite.

I would say that this was the hardest round to call. They traded, plain and simple. Griffin, like through out the fight, was more active. Jackson, also like through out the fight, caused more damage and landed a higher percentage of hits.

Closing
48-46 Jackson (my scoring)
47-47 Draw is understandable
The judging was terrible. The only two options were a DRAW or a win for Jackson.
Although many will deny it, im sure RACE was a big factor in the fight.

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]]> By: Lance http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37952 Lance Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:25:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37952 If anyone knows anything about submissions... Forrest did not even come close to finnihing the fight with that triangle. Rampage's arm was not in front of his throat. There was choke at that moment! Joe Rogan said "he's got a deep triangle" NO HE DIDN'T! Joe should know that... (and does I'm sure) The announcers were completely "Forrest" sided. I've re-watched this fight over and again. When Rampage is beating up on Forrest Mike says "well we know Forrest can take some punnishment." There is hardly a mention to Rampage crushing his face in. This whole thing is ridiculous. Watch the fight with the sound off. Just shows you that suggestion can go a long way. Rampage clearly won rounds 1 and 4. Forrest clearly won 2. 3 and 5 were closer, but I had Rampage in 3... (Forrest admitted he took a breather in 3) and Forrest winning 5. At least this fight was a draw, but really if Forrest got a 10-8 in 2 then, Rampage got a 10-8 in 1. (He came a lot closer to ending the fight) So I give Rampage the win. Unanimous decision my foot. Get some real judges. Stop trying to fix this stuff. Fan's don' t like it and upstarts like affliction will start stealing the show if they keep it right. We like the fighters, but not bogus pollitics. If anyone knows anything about submissions… Forrest did not even come close to finnihing the fight with that triangle. Rampage’s arm was not in front of his throat. There was choke at that moment! Joe Rogan said “he’s got a deep triangle” NO HE DIDN’T! Joe should know that… (and does I’m sure)

The announcers were completely “Forrest” sided. I’ve re-watched this fight over and again. When Rampage is beating up on Forrest Mike says “well we know Forrest can take some punnishment.” There is hardly a mention to Rampage crushing his face in.

This whole thing is ridiculous. Watch the fight with the sound off. Just shows you that suggestion can go a long way. Rampage clearly won rounds 1 and 4. Forrest clearly won 2. 3 and 5 were closer, but I had Rampage in 3… (Forrest admitted he took a breather in 3) and Forrest winning 5.

At least this fight was a draw, but really if Forrest got a 10-8 in 2 then, Rampage got a 10-8 in 1. (He came a lot closer to ending the fight)

So I give Rampage the win.

Unanimous decision my foot.

Get some real judges. Stop trying to fix this stuff. Fan’s don’ t like it and upstarts like affliction will start stealing the show if they keep it right.

We like the fighters, but not bogus pollitics.

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]]> By: jiggaman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37909 jiggaman Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:23:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37909 # 48 Are you having a laugh?. I cant believe im still posting about this days after the fact but you have to be confronted because you thinking is dangerous, I made a generalization not a racist generalization it also is a generlization that is most likely fact we live in a society where white americans are the majority there has been a wicked history of racisim in this country since it's begining im sorry but that's a fact Rampage was the only black american champ we all know what the stigma is about black americans is and your just in denial if you think the fan base in the ufc is beyond looking at race did you hear the fans were in favor of rich franklin during both fights did you hear how they chanted forrest and he wasnt even the champ i truly believe that the judges would have judge differently if rampage were white if that insults you msaybe your one of the white fans im talking about but if it dont apply let it fly and dont condition yourself to think every comment about race is off base then your really living a fairy tale # 48 Are you having a laugh?. I cant believe im still posting about this days after the fact but you have to be confronted because you thinking is dangerous, I made a generalization not a racist generalization it also is a generlization that is most likely fact we live in a society where white americans are the majority there has been a wicked history of racisim in this country since it’s begining im sorry but that’s a fact Rampage was the only black american champ we all know what the stigma is about black americans is and your just in denial if you think the fan base in the ufc is beyond looking at race did you hear the fans were in favor of rich franklin during both fights did you hear how they chanted forrest and he wasnt even the champ i truly believe that the judges would have judge differently if rampage were white if that insults you msaybe your one of the white fans im talking about but if it dont apply let it fly and dont condition yourself to think every comment about race is off base then your really living a fairy tale

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]]> By: Are you having a laugh?. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37867 Are you having a laugh?. Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:55:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37867 Sorry to double post but # 46 is right Forrest is the only anglo-american (white american) champ in the UFC now. Maybe they hate white americans?. Please stop bringing race into it. I didn't mean to offend you but it was a stupid comment in my opinion. Sorry to double post but # 46 is right Forrest is the only anglo-american (white american) champ in the UFC now. Maybe they hate white americans?. Please stop bringing race into it. I didn’t mean to offend you but it was a stupid comment in my opinion.

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]]> By: Are you having a laugh?. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37866 Are you having a laugh?. Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:43:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37866 Who bought race into it? who sugested that it was about Rampages race? who said that "WHITE FANS WHO WANT TO SEE WHITE CHAMPIONS IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES" and you query my sensitivity to this. Its a racist genralization about white people, am I wrong?. Look at the way the marketed Jackson. He was thier poster boy for the video game, look at the way the market Silva. Get the chip off your shoulder and stop accusing "white MMA fans" of being racist to make themselves feel better. It insults me. Who bought race into it? who sugested that it was about Rampages race? who said that “WHITE FANS WHO WANT TO SEE WHITE CHAMPIONS IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES” and you query my sensitivity to this. Its a racist genralization about white people, am I wrong?. Look at the way the marketed Jackson. He was thier poster boy for the video game, look at the way the market Silva. Get the chip off your shoulder and stop accusing “white MMA fans” of being racist to make themselves feel better. It insults me.

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]]> By: Dr Silverton http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37843 Dr Silverton Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:34:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37843 Honestly, Rampage... If you are reading this, /shame to you and UFC for second match cause wow... I've seen you dig into guys punches from Japan to Miami, you just stood there as if Spike TV, Turner Network and All the other Whoohas running this sham is gonna make you a champ... You threw 1 look and cramp your arms? Where are we, an Asian WBC lightweight championship in Bangkok? I got a news for you rampage, this ain't WWF (oh wait WWE now isn't it but who the hell cares!!) where they pay you to go around the neighborhood a few times and let you fall off the wagon! I knew the moment when Crocop took that BS right hand punch on this sham league of UFC but damn it I thought I had you pegged rampage. And for you hard asses thinking that UFC this and UFC that... Since Forrest is the Champ, have him go against 2 mins (not that it would take that long) with Fedor and watch him get ripped apart on the ground! FYI, the league asked Crocop not to elbow / soccer kick downed opponent, same with shogun. Not convinced? Try athletic commission report of the agreement, by law they have to post it and sure as hell these kill shots are not to be used on the match ( oh but wait.... the opponents could use them.... BS) and to the league, why not call it Ultimate Fictional Championship and have undertaker come on the octagon, no wait, why not go for broke and get Steve Austin out of commission? Shame on you a-holes, no low kicks are allowed if the opponent fighter is not trained of the discipline clause? Is that why you had a wrestler stomp shogun? Spider Silva vs sandman... joking right? Is it gonna be minuet or waltz? I'm turning spike and Turner off the programming! Honestly, Rampage…

If you are reading this, /shame to you and UFC for second match cause wow… I’ve seen you dig into guys punches from Japan to Miami, you just stood there as if Spike TV, Turner Network and All the other Whoohas running this sham is gonna make you a champ… You threw 1 look and cramp your arms? Where are we, an Asian WBC lightweight championship in Bangkok? I got a news for you rampage, this ain’t WWF (oh wait WWE now isn’t it but who the hell cares!!) where they pay you to go around the neighborhood a few times and let you fall off the wagon!

I knew the moment when Crocop took that BS right hand punch on this sham league of UFC but damn it I thought I had you pegged rampage.

And for you hard asses thinking that UFC this and UFC that… Since Forrest is the Champ, have him go against 2 mins (not that it would take that long) with Fedor and watch him get ripped apart on the ground! FYI, the league asked Crocop not to elbow / soccer kick downed opponent, same with shogun. Not convinced? Try athletic commission report of the agreement, by law they have to post it and sure as hell these kill shots are not to be used on the match ( oh but wait…. the opponents could use them…. BS)

and to the league, why not call it Ultimate Fictional Championship and have undertaker come on the octagon, no wait, why not go for broke and get Steve Austin out of commission? Shame on you a-holes, no low kicks are allowed if the opponent fighter is not trained of the discipline clause? Is that why you had a wrestler stomp shogun? Spider Silva vs sandman… joking right? Is it gonna be minuet or waltz? I’m turning spike and Turner off the programming!

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]]> By: Russ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37789 Russ Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:29:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37789 Isn't BJ Penn pacific islander, GSP Canadian, Anderson Silva African Brazilian and Minotauro Brazilian.??? Damn I guess they are all a certain persuasion from the BreadBasket of the US too. Isn’t BJ Penn pacific islander, GSP Canadian, Anderson Silva African Brazilian and Minotauro Brazilian.???

Damn I guess they are all a certain persuasion from the BreadBasket of the US too.

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]]> By: Meat Dog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37757 Meat Dog Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:46:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37757 Im not racist. Im just saying if you ran a candy business you would not market it to a Dentist. Im just saying, market everybody the same,and you would not have to see fighters like Quinton take a dive. Im not racist. Im just saying if you ran a candy business you would not market it to a Dentist. Im just saying, market everybody the same,and you would not have to see fighters like Quinton take a dive.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37752 HexRei Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:17:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37752 @#40 It's offensive to suggest that racism may still exist in the elitist paradise of the USA? @#40 It’s offensive to suggest that racism may still exist in the elitist paradise of the USA?

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]]> By: JIGGAMAN http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37736 JIGGAMAN Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:13:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37736 # 40 Are you having a laugh?. WELL SOMETIMES THE TRUTH MAY OFFEND THOSE IN DENIAL DANA KNOWS WHO PAYS HIS BILLS HE MUST GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT WHITE CHAMPS AND A LIL COLOR IN BETWEEN WONT HURT ESPECIALLY IF THE CLORED GUYS ARE LOSING TO WHITE GUYS I NEVER DIRECTED MY COMMENT TO ANYONE IN THIS ROOM YOU ARE WRONG FOR CALLING ME A RACIST I JUST STATED A OPINION YOUR COMMENT ABOUT ME SHOULD BE DELETED YOUR THE OFFENSIVE ONE # 40 Are you having a laugh?. WELL SOMETIMES THE TRUTH MAY OFFEND THOSE IN DENIAL DANA KNOWS WHO PAYS HIS BILLS HE MUST GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT WHITE CHAMPS AND A LIL COLOR IN BETWEEN WONT HURT ESPECIALLY IF THE CLORED GUYS ARE LOSING TO WHITE GUYS I NEVER DIRECTED MY COMMENT TO ANYONE IN THIS ROOM YOU ARE WRONG FOR CALLING ME A RACIST I JUST STATED A OPINION YOUR COMMENT ABOUT ME SHOULD BE DELETED YOUR THE OFFENSIVE ONE

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37735 HexRei Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:10:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37735 @#41: <b>I’m not sure why there is any controversey. The scoring system is very subjective.</b> You just answered your own question. If the scoring system were less subjective, there would be less controversy. @#41: I’m not sure why there is any controversey. The scoring system is very subjective.

You just answered your own question. If the scoring system were less subjective, there would be less controversy.

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]]> By: GameCritics.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37731 GameCritics.com Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:43:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37731 I know a lot of you are going to think I'm crazy for saying this, but this fight shows why the 10 pt must system is pretty effective. If you are a fan of Pride judging, you have to give the fight to Forest because he made the biggest statement in Rd 2. Close rounds (pretty much every rd, but 2) can go either way and did when you look at the scorecards. Ultimately, the 10-8 second rd is what won the fight and the right call no matter what judging system you prefer. I know a lot of you are going to think I’m crazy for saying this, but this fight shows why the 10 pt must system is pretty effective. If you are a fan of Pride judging, you have to give the fight to Forest because he made the biggest statement in Rd 2. Close rounds (pretty much every rd, but 2) can go either way and did when you look at the scorecards. Ultimately, the 10-8 second rd is what won the fight and the right call no matter what judging system you prefer.

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37704 Jackyl Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:19:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37704 Everyone has to remember that almost everyone expected Rampage to just roll right through Forrest. I was one of the people that said Forrest could win. I'm not sure why there is any controversey. The scoring system is very subjective. Forrest was winning the entire first round before getting dropped. The knockdown does not automatically give Rampage the round. I had the 2nd as a 10-8. You have to remember that it is scored round by round not the whole fight. Also, Rampage didn't go for it and try to finish Forrest with any sort of intensity. What is the old saying: "Never leave it in the hands of the judges." Everyone has to remember that almost everyone expected Rampage to just roll right through Forrest. I was one of the people that said Forrest could win. I’m not sure why there is any controversey. The scoring system is very subjective. Forrest was winning the entire first round before getting dropped. The knockdown does not automatically give Rampage the round. I had the 2nd as a 10-8. You have to remember that it is scored round by round not the whole fight. Also, Rampage didn’t go for it and try to finish Forrest with any sort of intensity. What is the old saying: “Never leave it in the hands of the judges.”

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]]> By: Are you having a laugh?. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37692 Are you having a laugh?. Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:49:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37692 # 23 jiggaman That is just offensive on so many levels. You are the racist here. # 23 jiggaman That is just offensive on so many levels. You are the racist here.

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]]> By: Official Scorecards for Griffin/Jackson Fight - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1 - EliteXC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37682 Official Scorecards for Griffin/Jackson Fight - Fight Forum - MMA - UFC - Boxing - K1 - EliteXC Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:52:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37682 [...] Scorecards for Griffin/Jackson Fight Five Ounces of Pain | Official scorecards for Jackson vs. Griffin [...] [...] Scorecards for Griffin/Jackson Fight Five Ounces of Pain | Official scorecards for Jackson vs. Griffin [...]

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]]> By: gfpeezy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37674 gfpeezy Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:06:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37674 i agree with a lot of the people here that forrest had more octagon control but rampage did more damage with his strikes... i think if it wasnt for forrest's freak of nature type ability to absorb devestating punches, rampage would have won easily but forrest ended up dodging just enough of the shots to still keep coming and rampage couldnt keep up the pace there needs to be a rematch soon... i'd like to see how both fighters adjust their game plans now that they know what they're up against i agree with a lot of the people here that forrest had more octagon control but rampage did more damage with his strikes… i think if it wasnt for forrest’s freak of nature type ability to absorb devestating punches, rampage would have won easily but forrest ended up dodging just enough of the shots to still keep coming and rampage couldnt keep up the pace

there needs to be a rematch soon… i’d like to see how both fighters adjust their game plans now that they know what they’re up against

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]]> By: Delo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37658 Delo Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:01:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37658 wow i should check over my typing skills before i post . Also just because someone is more active and landing punches it shouldnt mean they are winning the fight. wow i should check over my typing skills before i post . Also just because someone is more active and landing punches it shouldnt mean they are winning the fight.

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]]> By: Delo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37657 Delo Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:59:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37657 I feel that in championship fights, since it is fightring that it should go more rounds until someone is kod or submitted. It is stupid to watch someone loose his belt and or a fight and not even be hurt. I mean ya his leg was bruised up but he could of kept fighting. Also just because someone is more active and landing punches should mean they are winning the fihgt. Isant the point of fighting to hurt someone? I understand how the rules are in place now and it is about more than kicking someones arse but i mean seriously forrest didnt hurt rampage at all. He gave him a dead leg in round 2 laid ontop of him and didnt do much. If you atleast look at forrest it looks like he was in a fight. I feel that in championship fights, since it is fightring that it should go more rounds until someone is kod or submitted. It is stupid to watch someone loose his belt and or a fight and not even be hurt. I mean ya his leg was bruised up but he could of kept fighting. Also just because someone is more active and landing punches should mean they are winning the fihgt. Isant the point of fighting to hurt someone? I understand how the rules are in place now and it is about more than kicking someones arse but i mean seriously forrest didnt hurt rampage at all. He gave him a dead leg in round 2 laid ontop of him and didnt do much. If you atleast look at forrest it looks like he was in a fight.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-37647 HexRei Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:28:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/official-scorecards-for-jackson-vs-griffin/#comment-37647 @#33 I have no idea what you're talking about. I said Page lost at LEAST 3 and said I thought Forrest clearly won the fight. Are you sure you're responding to the right person? @#33 I have no idea what you’re talking about. I said Page lost at LEAST 3 and said I thought Forrest clearly won the fight. Are you sure you’re responding to the right person?

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