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		<title>By: Are you having a laugh?.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are you having a laugh?.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If its between this fight and the Cung vs Shamrock for fight of the year we would have had the worst year in MMA history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If its between this fight and the Cung vs Shamrock for fight of the year we would have had the worst year in MMA history.
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		<title>By: kobracom</title>
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		<dc:creator>kobracom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what drugs all of you are on that say that was the fight of the year. Second I think it is sad that Forrests performance won him a belt. He is waaay to overrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what drugs all of you are on that say that was the fight of the year. Second I think it is sad that Forrests performance won him a belt. He is waaay to overrated.
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		<title>By: Kel</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/ufc-86-fight-critic-review/comment-page-1/#comment-37888</link>
		<dc:creator>Kel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your feeling on Ads during PPV is the same feeling I got the first time I saw a commercial in a movie theater...I could tolerate something like this if they used it to make the PPV a bit cheaper. A price of $29.95 - $34.95 would have made it a much more attractive purchase. They could even limit the commercials to the closed-circuit broadcasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your feeling on Ads during PPV is the same feeling I got the first time I saw a commercial in a movie theater&#8230;I could tolerate something like this if they used it to make the PPV a bit cheaper. A price of $29.95 &#8211; $34.95 would have made it a much more attractive purchase. They could even limit the commercials to the closed-circuit broadcasts.
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		<title>By: screwface</title>
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		<dc:creator>screwface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree ufc hd is not up to par with other hd when it comes to sports. yes it looks way better than the standard broadcast but you would think ufc would spend the extra dollar. compare it any other sports hd it just doesnt seem to be as clear. even wwe hd ppvs have a cleaner look to them, and i may have walked past a tv once or twice with one playing to compare :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree ufc hd is not up to par with other hd when it comes to sports. yes it looks way better than the standard broadcast but you would think ufc would spend the extra dollar. compare it any other sports hd it just doesnt seem to be as clear. even wwe hd ppvs have a cleaner look to them, and i may have walked past a tv once or twice with one playing to compare :p
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/ufc-86-fight-critic-review/comment-page-1/#comment-37651</link>
		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Lyoto Machida is the #1 fighter in the world at this point.. Grifin #2, Page #3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lyoto Machida is the #1 fighter in the world at this point.. Grifin #2, Page #3.
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		<title>By: kirby</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam when you say Forest is now the #1 lhw in the world you are correct  but that doesn&#039;t stop me from feeling like that statement is wrong. It probably comes down to how Griffen wins compared to how other #1s win. In the UFC BJ, GSP, and Anderson all have dominant wins over top tallent. Griffen wins with intangables like heart, toughness, and smarts. He doesn&#039;t blow peoples doors off. He hangs around and pounces on mistakes. He out works and out cardios people. These things make people underestimate him, myself included. I was at work and didn&#039;t get to watch the fight so all I can say about Griffen now is; he is the champ and he is the #1 guy but.... &quot; Being the man and staying the man are two different things.&quot;  I would also wish Griffen luck but I don&#039;t realy like the guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam when you say Forest is now the #1 lhw in the world you are correct  but that doesn&#8217;t stop me from feeling like that statement is wrong. It probably comes down to how Griffen wins compared to how other #1s win. In the UFC BJ, GSP, and Anderson all have dominant wins over top tallent. Griffen wins with intangables like heart, toughness, and smarts. He doesn&#8217;t blow peoples doors off. He hangs around and pounces on mistakes. He out works and out cardios people. These things make people underestimate him, myself included. I was at work and didn&#8217;t get to watch the fight so all I can say about Griffen now is; he is the champ and he is the #1 guy but&#8230;. &#8221; Being the man and staying the man are two different things.&#8221;  I would also wish Griffen luck but I don&#8217;t realy like the guy.
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		<title>By: kingiefella</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingiefella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with #22....Rampage clearly stated that he got his ass beat last night...how can anyone say they feel he won that fight? Clearly they were watching this fight through their beer goggles....when they sober up and watch it again they will see that forrest clearly won...ok,...it wasnt the KO win or complete dominant win but a win is a win....rampage had his chance that night to beat forrest.....didnt do it or couldnt do it...it doesnt matter. I feel that yes he should get his rematch but i feel he should go to the back of the line because there are other fighters who should get there chance. Rampage should have maybe 1 or 2 fights then meet the champ (if its forrest) and do what he has to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with #22&#8230;.Rampage clearly stated that he got his ass beat last night&#8230;how can anyone say they feel he won that fight? Clearly they were watching this fight through their beer goggles&#8230;.when they sober up and watch it again they will see that forrest clearly won&#8230;ok,&#8230;it wasnt the KO win or complete dominant win but a win is a win&#8230;.rampage had his chance that night to beat forrest&#8230;..didnt do it or couldnt do it&#8230;it doesnt matter. I feel that yes he should get his rematch but i feel he should go to the back of the line because there are other fighters who should get there chance. Rampage should have maybe 1 or 2 fights then meet the champ (if its forrest) and do what he has to do.
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		<title>By: cheapshot</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheapshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, don&#039;t forget that it&#039;s more than likely that you&#039;re arguing with an angsty 12 year old. Think Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, I know it&#039;s difficult but I don&#039;t see why you should waste your time responding point for point to these people when they clearly don&#039;t put anything like the amount of time you do into their comments. You could always go round their houses and roshambo them like jay and bob do, just an idea.

Just for the sake of argument I was torn between rampage by one, a draw and forrest by one. It&#039;s clearly tough being a judge but how in the hell they come up with these scores is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, don&#8217;t forget that it&#8217;s more than likely that you&#8217;re arguing with an angsty 12 year old. Think Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, I know it&#8217;s difficult but I don&#8217;t see why you should waste your time responding point for point to these people when they clearly don&#8217;t put anything like the amount of time you do into their comments. You could always go round their houses and roshambo them like jay and bob do, just an idea.</p>
<p>Just for the sake of argument I was torn between rampage by one, a draw and forrest by one. It&#8217;s clearly tough being a judge but how in the hell they come up with these scores is beyond me.
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		<title>By: Jay K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zack, you&#039;re wrong.  Rampage won rounds one and four convincingly with the serious 10-8 rd. 2 loss to Griffin.  Griffin also won round three as the Champ didn&#039;t do enough nor press the action.  Rd. 5 looked to me could&#039;ve gone either way but it was more a Griffin round.  

My breakdown:

Rd.1 R-10 F-9
Rd.2 R-8   F-10
Rd.3 R-9   F-10
Rd.4 R-10 F-9
Rd.5 R-9   F-10

Both guys are classy and terrific individuals which made the fight all the more enjoyable.  

Cheers,

Jay K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zack, you&#8217;re wrong.  Rampage won rounds one and four convincingly with the serious 10-8 rd. 2 loss to Griffin.  Griffin also won round three as the Champ didn&#8217;t do enough nor press the action.  Rd. 5 looked to me could&#8217;ve gone either way but it was more a Griffin round.  </p>
<p>My breakdown:</p>
<p>Rd.1 R-10 F-9<br />
Rd.2 R-8   F-10<br />
Rd.3 R-9   F-10<br />
Rd.4 R-10 F-9<br />
Rd.5 R-9   F-10</p>
<p>Both guys are classy and terrific individuals which made the fight all the more enjoyable.  </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jay K.
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		<title>By: Anton K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anton K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Demon 6.0


I agree.  Was Rampage afraid of the knees?  The fifth round SUCKED.</description>
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<p>I agree.  Was Rampage afraid of the knees?  The fifth round SUCKED.
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