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	<title>Comments on: Was I the only one who thought Rampage won?</title>
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		<title>By: Mariah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it was very close however Forest maintained &quot;Octagon control&quot; for 70 percent of the fight. Hew delivered several unchecked kicks to the inner thighs and outter thighs. Plus the 2nd round was without a doubt went to Griffin. I watched the fight and am well aware of the scoring and when it was over I knew Griffin was going to win. And this crap of the champ stay the champ if it goes to decision is wrong if that is your base. Look at Tim Silvia vs. Randy Couture. It is possible. Rampage may have had the agressiveness scored but in the the words of every MMA fighter &quot;if you leave it to the judges you are going to get fucked.&quot; If you can&#039;t finish it then you certainly can&#039;t win it. Because who knows I am girl after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it was very close however Forest maintained &#8220;Octagon control&#8221; for 70 percent of the fight. Hew delivered several unchecked kicks to the inner thighs and outter thighs. Plus the 2nd round was without a doubt went to Griffin. I watched the fight and am well aware of the scoring and when it was over I knew Griffin was going to win. And this crap of the champ stay the champ if it goes to decision is wrong if that is your base. Look at Tim Silvia vs. Randy Couture. It is possible. Rampage may have had the agressiveness scored but in the the words of every MMA fighter &#8220;if you leave it to the judges you are going to get fucked.&#8221; If you can&#8217;t finish it then you certainly can&#8217;t win it. Because who knows I am girl after all.
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		<title>By: king mah mah</title>
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		<dc:creator>king mah mah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I showed the fight to some of my buddies at work who don&#039;t even watch mma. And without even telling them who I thought won they immediately said that Forrest won by a good margin. 

@&quot;Are you having a laugh&quot;, yes I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I just felt strongly about mine. It was a close fight after rewatching it, but I still think Forrest won and he deserves that belt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I showed the fight to some of my buddies at work who don&#8217;t even watch mma. And without even telling them who I thought won they immediately said that Forrest won by a good margin. </p>
<p>@&#8221;Are you having a laugh&#8221;, yes I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I just felt strongly about mine. It was a close fight after rewatching it, but I still think Forrest won and he deserves that belt.
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		<title>By: ufcfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come the f on Rampage totally won that fight. Griffin had one or two stupid kicks compared to rampages numerous hard punches. it was fixed, theres no way in hell forrest won that fight. Come on,  second round 10-8 hahahahaha more like the first round should of been when forrest hit the floor. Anyway, in the end forrest was clearly in pain and damaged and rampage didnt have a scratch on him. so who really did win that fight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come the f on Rampage totally won that fight. Griffin had one or two stupid kicks compared to rampages numerous hard punches. it was fixed, theres no way in hell forrest won that fight. Come on,  second round 10-8 hahahahaha more like the first round should of been when forrest hit the floor. Anyway, in the end forrest was clearly in pain and damaged and rampage didnt have a scratch on him. so who really did win that fight?
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		<title>By: ufcfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ufcfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come the f on Rampage totally won that fight. Griffin had one or two stupid kicks compared to rampages numerous hard punches. it was fixed, theres no way in hell forrest won that fight. Come on, 2 second round 10-8 hahahahaha more like the first round should of been when forrest hit the floor.  Anyway, in the end forrest was clearly in pain and damaged and rampage didnt have a scratch on him.  so who really did when that fight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come the f on Rampage totally won that fight. Griffin had one or two stupid kicks compared to rampages numerous hard punches. it was fixed, theres no way in hell forrest won that fight. Come on, 2 second round 10-8 hahahahaha more like the first round should of been when forrest hit the floor.  Anyway, in the end forrest was clearly in pain and damaged and rampage didnt have a scratch on him.  so who really did when that fight?
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		<title>By: weoweoweo</title>
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		<dc:creator>weoweoweo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a win for rampage is just reaching. its a draw at best. round 3 could go to either fighter. so its not a robbery or a conspiracy as some of the people are claiming.

and sam, i agree with # 8  MrNiceGuyMMA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a win for rampage is just reaching. its a draw at best. round 3 could go to either fighter. so its not a robbery or a conspiracy as some of the people are claiming.</p>
<p>and sam, i agree with # 8  MrNiceGuyMMA
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		<title>By: THORAZINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>THORAZINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I like both fighters and don&#039;t have any bias towards either one. Since so many fans have said Forrest won, I really am questioning what I witnessed, but I saw it the same way u did.

R1: 10-9 Rampage 
R2: 10-8 Forrest 
R3: 10-9 Rampage
R4: 10-9 Rampage 
R5: 10-9 Rampage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I like both fighters and don&#8217;t have any bias towards either one. Since so many fans have said Forrest won, I really am questioning what I witnessed, but I saw it the same way u did.</p>
<p>R1: 10-9 Rampage<br />
R2: 10-8 Forrest<br />
R3: 10-9 Rampage<br />
R4: 10-9 Rampage<br />
R5: 10-9 Rampage
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		<title>By: JacRabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JacRabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally thought rampage had it won, with a high possibility of a draw. A unanimous decision was way out of wack. I have it on the DVR...i&#039;ll need to watch this again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally thought rampage had it won, with a high possibility of a draw. A unanimous decision was way out of wack. I have it on the DVR&#8230;i&#8217;ll need to watch this again.
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		<title>By: revjames13</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw the fight a second time, and I must say Forrest does a bit better on second viewing. I still thought the fight was even going into the last round. The third was the toughest round to call. 

1. definitive Page. 2. definitive Griffin 3. Almost impossible to call, but I give to Griffin on momentum. 4. Page 5. This time instead  of seeing it as even, I give a slight edge to Griffin for staying busier. And in a fight like this, the winner of the last round deserves it.

It&#039;s fair that Forrest won. It just should have been 48 to 47.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw the fight a second time, and I must say Forrest does a bit better on second viewing. I still thought the fight was even going into the last round. The third was the toughest round to call. </p>
<p>1. definitive Page. 2. definitive Griffin 3. Almost impossible to call, but I give to Griffin on momentum. 4. Page 5. This time instead  of seeing it as even, I give a slight edge to Griffin for staying busier. And in a fight like this, the winner of the last round deserves it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fair that Forrest won. It just should have been 48 to 47.
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		<title>By: revjames13</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rampage should have to win another, but only one other, fight before he gets a rematch. Any of the following will do: Wandy, Rua, Machida. If Chuck gets past Rashad he will likely get the next shot at Griffin. If Rashad somehow wins, then that is another guy Rampage could fight to get his rematch.

The fight with Griffin was basically a draw. They each had dominant rounds, and the last three were too close to be definitive (though I gave Forrest 3 and Page 4). Nothing really happened in the last round. Page&#039;s corner should have told him how close it was and had him go for it to close it out. He played it too careful.

The scorecards were a joke, though. Anyone who doesn&#039;t give Rampage the first round should just give up ever trying to judge a fight. It doesn&#039;t matter if the other guy is peppering in &quot;tink&quot; punches and racking up some minor points, when the other guy drops him to the mat with a strike and nearly finishes him off with GnP while the dude is clinging for his life to stay alive, HE WINS THAT ROUND, case closed. I wouldn&#039;t make it a 10-8 for Page, but in no reality, real or imagined, does he lose that round. Same goes for round two, Forrest takes that with a 10-9. Never is that a 10-8. It was a great leg kick and he held Page down for the round, but Page neutralized him on the ground. Forrest never got anything off.

The last three round were pick &#039;ems. Neither guy did enough to make it clear (though the triangle into power slam was the highlight of the fight.) Not complaining Forrest won, it was an inspired performance. But I feel bad for Rampage that the scorecards were so off. I was certain at least one judge would give it to him. I though he was going to take it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rampage should have to win another, but only one other, fight before he gets a rematch. Any of the following will do: Wandy, Rua, Machida. If Chuck gets past Rashad he will likely get the next shot at Griffin. If Rashad somehow wins, then that is another guy Rampage could fight to get his rematch.</p>
<p>The fight with Griffin was basically a draw. They each had dominant rounds, and the last three were too close to be definitive (though I gave Forrest 3 and Page 4). Nothing really happened in the last round. Page&#8217;s corner should have told him how close it was and had him go for it to close it out. He played it too careful.</p>
<p>The scorecards were a joke, though. Anyone who doesn&#8217;t give Rampage the first round should just give up ever trying to judge a fight. It doesn&#8217;t matter if the other guy is peppering in &#8220;tink&#8221; punches and racking up some minor points, when the other guy drops him to the mat with a strike and nearly finishes him off with GnP while the dude is clinging for his life to stay alive, HE WINS THAT ROUND, case closed. I wouldn&#8217;t make it a 10-8 for Page, but in no reality, real or imagined, does he lose that round. Same goes for round two, Forrest takes that with a 10-9. Never is that a 10-8. It was a great leg kick and he held Page down for the round, but Page neutralized him on the ground. Forrest never got anything off.</p>
<p>The last three round were pick &#8216;ems. Neither guy did enough to make it clear (though the triangle into power slam was the highlight of the fight.) Not complaining Forrest won, it was an inspired performance. But I feel bad for Rampage that the scorecards were so off. I was certain at least one judge would give it to him. I though he was going to take it myself.
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		<title>By: maddog</title>
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		<dc:creator>maddog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#121 j-dawgif forrest lead with his head why didn&#039;t rampage tkfo him?  don&#039;t be butt hurt that your man didn&#039;t win. do leg kicks count?  forrest won the 2nd round because he kicked.  had rampage won we would be hearing the same crying in the other direction.  rematch will not happen till jackson beats someone else.  luv ya man</description>
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