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	<title>Comments on: Was I the only one who thought Rampage won?</title>
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		<title>By: Mariah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it was very close however Forest maintained &quot;Octagon control&quot; for 70 percent of the fight. Hew delivered several unchecked kicks to the inner thighs and outter thighs. Plus the 2nd round was without a doubt went to Griffin. I watched the fight and am well aware of the scoring and when it was over I knew Griffin was going to win. And this crap of the champ stay the champ if it goes to decision is wrong if that is your base. Look at Tim Silvia vs. Randy Couture. It is possible. Rampage may have had the agressiveness scored but in the the words of every MMA fighter &quot;if you leave it to the judges you are going to get fucked.&quot; If you can&#039;t finish it then you certainly can&#039;t win it. Because who knows I am girl after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it was very close however Forest maintained &#8220;Octagon control&#8221; for 70 percent of the fight. Hew delivered several unchecked kicks to the inner thighs and outter thighs. Plus the 2nd round was without a doubt went to Griffin. I watched the fight and am well aware of the scoring and when it was over I knew Griffin was going to win. And this crap of the champ stay the champ if it goes to decision is wrong if that is your base. Look at Tim Silvia vs. Randy Couture. It is possible. Rampage may have had the agressiveness scored but in the the words of every MMA fighter &#8220;if you leave it to the judges you are going to get fucked.&#8221; If you can&#8217;t finish it then you certainly can&#8217;t win it. Because who knows I am girl after all.</p>
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		<title>By: king mah mah</title>
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		<dc:creator>king mah mah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I showed the fight to some of my buddies at work who don&#039;t even watch mma. And without even telling them who I thought won they immediately said that Forrest won by a good margin. 

@&quot;Are you having a laugh&quot;, yes I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I just felt strongly about mine. It was a close fight after rewatching it, but I still think Forrest won and he deserves that belt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I showed the fight to some of my buddies at work who don&#8217;t even watch mma. And without even telling them who I thought won they immediately said that Forrest won by a good margin. </p>
<p>@&#8221;Are you having a laugh&#8221;, yes I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I just felt strongly about mine. It was a close fight after rewatching it, but I still think Forrest won and he deserves that belt.</p>
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		<title>By: ufcfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ufcfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come the f on Rampage totally won that fight. Griffin had one or two stupid kicks compared to rampages numerous hard punches. it was fixed, theres no way in hell forrest won that fight. Come on,  second round 10-8 hahahahaha more like the first round should of been when forrest hit the floor. Anyway, in the end forrest was clearly in pain and damaged and rampage didnt have a scratch on him. so who really did win that fight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come the f on Rampage totally won that fight. Griffin had one or two stupid kicks compared to rampages numerous hard punches. it was fixed, theres no way in hell forrest won that fight. Come on,  second round 10-8 hahahahaha more like the first round should of been when forrest hit the floor. Anyway, in the end forrest was clearly in pain and damaged and rampage didnt have a scratch on him. so who really did win that fight?</p>
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		<title>By: ufcfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ufcfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come the f on Rampage totally won that fight. Griffin had one or two stupid kicks compared to rampages numerous hard punches. it was fixed, theres no way in hell forrest won that fight. Come on, 2 second round 10-8 hahahahaha more like the first round should of been when forrest hit the floor.  Anyway, in the end forrest was clearly in pain and damaged and rampage didnt have a scratch on him.  so who really did when that fight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come the f on Rampage totally won that fight. Griffin had one or two stupid kicks compared to rampages numerous hard punches. it was fixed, theres no way in hell forrest won that fight. Come on, 2 second round 10-8 hahahahaha more like the first round should of been when forrest hit the floor.  Anyway, in the end forrest was clearly in pain and damaged and rampage didnt have a scratch on him.  so who really did when that fight?</p>
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		<title>By: weoweoweo</title>
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		<dc:creator>weoweoweo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a win for rampage is just reaching. its a draw at best. round 3 could go to either fighter. so its not a robbery or a conspiracy as some of the people are claiming.

and sam, i agree with # 8  MrNiceGuyMMA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a win for rampage is just reaching. its a draw at best. round 3 could go to either fighter. so its not a robbery or a conspiracy as some of the people are claiming.</p>
<p>and sam, i agree with # 8  MrNiceGuyMMA</p>
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		<title>By: THORAZINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>THORAZINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I like both fighters and don&#039;t have any bias towards either one. Since so many fans have said Forrest won, I really am questioning what I witnessed, but I saw it the same way u did.

R1: 10-9 Rampage 
R2: 10-8 Forrest 
R3: 10-9 Rampage
R4: 10-9 Rampage 
R5: 10-9 Rampage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I like both fighters and don&#8217;t have any bias towards either one. Since so many fans have said Forrest won, I really am questioning what I witnessed, but I saw it the same way u did.</p>
<p>R1: 10-9 Rampage<br />
R2: 10-8 Forrest<br />
R3: 10-9 Rampage<br />
R4: 10-9 Rampage<br />
R5: 10-9 Rampage</p>
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		<title>By: JacRabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JacRabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally thought rampage had it won, with a high possibility of a draw. A unanimous decision was way out of wack. I have it on the DVR...i&#039;ll need to watch this again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally thought rampage had it won, with a high possibility of a draw. A unanimous decision was way out of wack. I have it on the DVR&#8230;i&#8217;ll need to watch this again.</p>
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		<title>By: revjames13</title>
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		<dc:creator>revjames13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw the fight a second time, and I must say Forrest does a bit better on second viewing. I still thought the fight was even going into the last round. The third was the toughest round to call. 

1. definitive Page. 2. definitive Griffin 3. Almost impossible to call, but I give to Griffin on momentum. 4. Page 5. This time instead  of seeing it as even, I give a slight edge to Griffin for staying busier. And in a fight like this, the winner of the last round deserves it.

It&#039;s fair that Forrest won. It just should have been 48 to 47.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw the fight a second time, and I must say Forrest does a bit better on second viewing. I still thought the fight was even going into the last round. The third was the toughest round to call. </p>
<p>1. definitive Page. 2. definitive Griffin 3. Almost impossible to call, but I give to Griffin on momentum. 4. Page 5. This time instead  of seeing it as even, I give a slight edge to Griffin for staying busier. And in a fight like this, the winner of the last round deserves it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fair that Forrest won. It just should have been 48 to 47.</p>
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		<title>By: revjames13</title>
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		<dc:creator>revjames13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rampage should have to win another, but only one other, fight before he gets a rematch. Any of the following will do: Wandy, Rua, Machida. If Chuck gets past Rashad he will likely get the next shot at Griffin. If Rashad somehow wins, then that is another guy Rampage could fight to get his rematch.

The fight with Griffin was basically a draw. They each had dominant rounds, and the last three were too close to be definitive (though I gave Forrest 3 and Page 4). Nothing really happened in the last round. Page&#039;s corner should have told him how close it was and had him go for it to close it out. He played it too careful.

The scorecards were a joke, though. Anyone who doesn&#039;t give Rampage the first round should just give up ever trying to judge a fight. It doesn&#039;t matter if the other guy is peppering in &quot;tink&quot; punches and racking up some minor points, when the other guy drops him to the mat with a strike and nearly finishes him off with GnP while the dude is clinging for his life to stay alive, HE WINS THAT ROUND, case closed. I wouldn&#039;t make it a 10-8 for Page, but in no reality, real or imagined, does he lose that round. Same goes for round two, Forrest takes that with a 10-9. Never is that a 10-8. It was a great leg kick and he held Page down for the round, but Page neutralized him on the ground. Forrest never got anything off.

The last three round were pick &#039;ems. Neither guy did enough to make it clear (though the triangle into power slam was the highlight of the fight.) Not complaining Forrest won, it was an inspired performance. But I feel bad for Rampage that the scorecards were so off. I was certain at least one judge would give it to him. I though he was going to take it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rampage should have to win another, but only one other, fight before he gets a rematch. Any of the following will do: Wandy, Rua, Machida. If Chuck gets past Rashad he will likely get the next shot at Griffin. If Rashad somehow wins, then that is another guy Rampage could fight to get his rematch.</p>
<p>The fight with Griffin was basically a draw. They each had dominant rounds, and the last three were too close to be definitive (though I gave Forrest 3 and Page 4). Nothing really happened in the last round. Page&#8217;s corner should have told him how close it was and had him go for it to close it out. He played it too careful.</p>
<p>The scorecards were a joke, though. Anyone who doesn&#8217;t give Rampage the first round should just give up ever trying to judge a fight. It doesn&#8217;t matter if the other guy is peppering in &#8220;tink&#8221; punches and racking up some minor points, when the other guy drops him to the mat with a strike and nearly finishes him off with GnP while the dude is clinging for his life to stay alive, HE WINS THAT ROUND, case closed. I wouldn&#8217;t make it a 10-8 for Page, but in no reality, real or imagined, does he lose that round. Same goes for round two, Forrest takes that with a 10-9. Never is that a 10-8. It was a great leg kick and he held Page down for the round, but Page neutralized him on the ground. Forrest never got anything off.</p>
<p>The last three round were pick &#8216;ems. Neither guy did enough to make it clear (though the triangle into power slam was the highlight of the fight.) Not complaining Forrest won, it was an inspired performance. But I feel bad for Rampage that the scorecards were so off. I was certain at least one judge would give it to him. I though he was going to take it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: maddog</title>
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		<dc:creator>maddog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#121 j-dawgif forrest lead with his head why didn&#039;t rampage tkfo him?  don&#039;t be butt hurt that your man didn&#039;t win. do leg kicks count?  forrest won the 2nd round because he kicked.  had rampage won we would be hearing the same crying in the other direction.  rematch will not happen till jackson beats someone else.  luv ya man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#121 j-dawgif forrest lead with his head why didn&#8217;t rampage tkfo him?  don&#8217;t be butt hurt that your man didn&#8217;t win. do leg kicks count?  forrest won the 2nd round because he kicked.  had rampage won we would be hearing the same crying in the other direction.  rematch will not happen till jackson beats someone else.  luv ya man</p>
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		<title>By: pitbull17</title>
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		<dc:creator>pitbull17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was much closer than the scorecards read, I thought a draw or a split decision in favor of Rampage was coming. I didn&#039;t see it as that one sided, but now that I have watched the fight again i can see where a couple of rounds namely the third and fourth were a toss up and it just depends on the person scoring, I&#039;m of the opinion to beat the champ you have to BEAT! the champ but alot of people don&#039;t see it that way. at least on this site people aren&#039;t going crazy and saying the fix was in like the are on some other sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was much closer than the scorecards read, I thought a draw or a split decision in favor of Rampage was coming. I didn&#8217;t see it as that one sided, but now that I have watched the fight again i can see where a couple of rounds namely the third and fourth were a toss up and it just depends on the person scoring, I&#8217;m of the opinion to beat the champ you have to BEAT! the champ but alot of people don&#8217;t see it that way. at least on this site people aren&#8217;t going crazy and saying the fix was in like the are on some other sites.</p>
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		<title>By: GoofyMonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoofyMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that anyone is going to read post #126 at this point but... I thought he pulled it out too... I gave him 1, 3 &amp; 4. Oh well. I hope for an immediate rematch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that anyone is going to read post #126 at this point but&#8230; I thought he pulled it out too&#8230; I gave him 1, 3 &amp; 4. Oh well. I hope for an immediate rematch.</p>
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		<title>By: ROBERT</title>
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		<dc:creator>ROBERT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rampage said on the show that he will bet his whole purse that it wont go to a decision and Ibarra said he will retire if Rampage loses. i bet both of them wont keep there word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rampage said on the show that he will bet his whole purse that it wont go to a decision and Ibarra said he will retire if Rampage loses. i bet both of them wont keep there word.</p>
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		<title>By: joetheacupuncturist</title>
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		<dc:creator>joetheacupuncturist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe its my love of baseball and the tie goes to the runner thing or maybe it goes back to my pro wrestling fanboy days but i just think the champion gets the round if it is the least bit questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe its my love of baseball and the tie goes to the runner thing or maybe it goes back to my pro wrestling fanboy days but i just think the champion gets the round if it is the least bit questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#117 all forrest did from the top was rub his elbows into pages face. If it was such a pounding then why wasn&#039;t his face more damaged at the end of the fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#117 all forrest did from the top was rub his elbows into pages face. If it was such a pounding then why wasn&#8217;t his face more damaged at the end of the fight.</p>
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		<title>By: jaydog</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wouldn&#039;t have gone to a decision, if Rampage didn&#039;t have an injured leg for the last three rounds.  It also wouldn&#039;t have gone to a decision if Forrest could take advantage of the GNP opportunity for the last 4 minutes of Rd 2.  Take those two shortcomings out on both fighter&#039;s part and you have Rampage pounding on Forrest&#039;s face while being peppered with jabs and low kicks.  But yeah, I&#039;d say tie goes to the champ.   

&quot;To be the man, you have to beat the man,&quot; Rick Flair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wouldn&#8217;t have gone to a decision, if Rampage didn&#8217;t have an injured leg for the last three rounds.  It also wouldn&#8217;t have gone to a decision if Forrest could take advantage of the GNP opportunity for the last 4 minutes of Rd 2.  Take those two shortcomings out on both fighter&#8217;s part and you have Rampage pounding on Forrest&#8217;s face while being peppered with jabs and low kicks.  But yeah, I&#8217;d say tie goes to the champ.   </p>
<p>&#8220;To be the man, you have to beat the man,&#8221; Rick Flair.</p>
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		<title>By: J-dawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>J-dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam – I agree with you on this one. Obviously, Forrest was more aggressive in this fight. As for octagon control, if you consider attacking your opponent with your head down while getting your face smashed controlling the octagon then you’ll pick Forrest; if not, then Rampage is likely to be your winner. Forrest threw more punches but Rampage landed more punches. I scored it 48-46 Rampage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam – I agree with you on this one. Obviously, Forrest was more aggressive in this fight. As for octagon control, if you consider attacking your opponent with your head down while getting your face smashed controlling the octagon then you’ll pick Forrest; if not, then Rampage is likely to be your winner. Forrest threw more punches but Rampage landed more punches. I scored it 48-46 Rampage.</p>
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		<title>By: revjames13</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good post #101

This fight has me thinking that in MMA, the tie goes to the underdog, not the Champ. This isn&#039;t boxing, and somehow maybe it&#039;s good to give the underdog his due. In a fight, if somebody is absolutely supposed to kick somebody&#039;s ass, if he&#039;s meant to destroy him, and then the guy puts up a hell of a fight, well it&#039;s like a victory because he kept it close.

Forrest benefitted from that. He kept the fight close when Rampage was supposed to &quot;whoop his ass.&quot; And he almost did in that first round. That shot that dropped Forrest was the end that most (including Rampage) expected. A quick mount and some blows reigned down and the ref stops it. But he couldn&#039;t put Griffin away. You could see look of disappointment on his face at the end of the round. It was subtle, but you could a &quot;damn, he&#039;s still in the fight&quot; flash across his eyes.

Neither round one or two was a 10-8. A 10-8 is when you beat the hell out of someone and just miss putting them away. Forrest was on top, but didn&#039;t do much from that position. But he did hold him down the whole round after that great leg kick. What a round like that does (while not a 10-8) is create momentum. If the next round is close, like it was, it should go to the guy who is coming off a dominant round.

The real way the fight went was Rampage 1, Forrest 2 and 3, Rampage 4, and then the last round was actually even, too close to score. I don&#039;t believe it the 10 point must system. If neither guy does enough to establish who won the round it should be a 9-9. That would make this fight a draw, which, let&#039;s face it, is basically the truth of what happened. I watched the show without commentary by the way, and was rooting for Forrest to win.

I was of the mind that in draw situations the Champ gets the nod. But this is were the underdog thing comes in. Rampage was supposed to destroy him. He said the fight wouldn&#039;t go to decision. It did and he lost because it was thrilling to watch Forrest make a fight of it. If we had no idea who either guy was and watched the fight, might it have been scored differently? Perhaps, but it really doesn&#039;t matter.

This wasn&#039;t Hamill/Bisping. History will show that Forrest won and I don&#039;t think it will say it was a controversial decision. But it was much much much closer than the official scorecards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good post #101</p>
<p>This fight has me thinking that in MMA, the tie goes to the underdog, not the Champ. This isn&#8217;t boxing, and somehow maybe it&#8217;s good to give the underdog his due. In a fight, if somebody is absolutely supposed to kick somebody&#8217;s ass, if he&#8217;s meant to destroy him, and then the guy puts up a hell of a fight, well it&#8217;s like a victory because he kept it close.</p>
<p>Forrest benefitted from that. He kept the fight close when Rampage was supposed to &#8220;whoop his ass.&#8221; And he almost did in that first round. That shot that dropped Forrest was the end that most (including Rampage) expected. A quick mount and some blows reigned down and the ref stops it. But he couldn&#8217;t put Griffin away. You could see look of disappointment on his face at the end of the round. It was subtle, but you could a &#8220;damn, he&#8217;s still in the fight&#8221; flash across his eyes.</p>
<p>Neither round one or two was a 10-8. A 10-8 is when you beat the hell out of someone and just miss putting them away. Forrest was on top, but didn&#8217;t do much from that position. But he did hold him down the whole round after that great leg kick. What a round like that does (while not a 10-8) is create momentum. If the next round is close, like it was, it should go to the guy who is coming off a dominant round.</p>
<p>The real way the fight went was Rampage 1, Forrest 2 and 3, Rampage 4, and then the last round was actually even, too close to score. I don&#8217;t believe it the 10 point must system. If neither guy does enough to establish who won the round it should be a 9-9. That would make this fight a draw, which, let&#8217;s face it, is basically the truth of what happened. I watched the show without commentary by the way, and was rooting for Forrest to win.</p>
<p>I was of the mind that in draw situations the Champ gets the nod. But this is were the underdog thing comes in. Rampage was supposed to destroy him. He said the fight wouldn&#8217;t go to decision. It did and he lost because it was thrilling to watch Forrest make a fight of it. If we had no idea who either guy was and watched the fight, might it have been scored differently? Perhaps, but it really doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>This wasn&#8217;t Hamill/Bisping. History will show that Forrest won and I don&#8217;t think it will say it was a controversial decision. But it was much much much closer than the official scorecards.</p>
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		<title>By: ufcpro</title>
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		<dc:creator>ufcpro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all depends on who you were rooting for. I had it for Jackson because i wanted him to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all depends on who you were rooting for. I had it for Jackson because i wanted him to win.</p>
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		<title>By: jaydog</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/06/was-i-the-only-one-who-thought-rampage-won/comment-page-1/#comment-37526</link>
		<dc:creator>jaydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scoring aside, the intangible criteria of heroicism should also factor in.  Both of these guys bring a reputation for their consistent valiant efforts and ability to pull out a victory.  In this respect, Rampage came out ahead.  Considering the distance that Jackson traveled from near defeat in the 2nd, I think the real champion was evident by the end.  After the 2nd, Forrests&#039;s approach amounted to treading water and didn&#039;t seem to be trying to close the deal for the rest of the fight.  That&#039;s my take.  The victory was not conclusive, at all.  An immediate rematch is more than warranted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scoring aside, the intangible criteria of heroicism should also factor in.  Both of these guys bring a reputation for their consistent valiant efforts and ability to pull out a victory.  In this respect, Rampage came out ahead.  Considering the distance that Jackson traveled from near defeat in the 2nd, I think the real champion was evident by the end.  After the 2nd, Forrests&#8217;s approach amounted to treading water and didn&#8217;t seem to be trying to close the deal for the rest of the fight.  That&#8217;s my take.  The victory was not conclusive, at all.  An immediate rematch is more than warranted.</p>
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