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		<title>By: christian</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/07/pros-and-cons-ufc-86/comment-page-1/#comment-45768</link>
		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off let me say  that i love your site fiveouncesofpain.com a lot 
now.. back  to the post hehe 
I cant say that im 100% with what you wrote... care to clear things up for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off let me say  that i love your site fiveouncesofpain.com a lot<br />
now.. back  to the post hehe<br />
I cant say that im 100% with what you wrote&#8230; care to clear things up for me?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Urban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Urban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your so right about Rogan. I said the same thing. He did this with Forrest the other night. DEAD ON MAN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your so right about Rogan. I said the same thing. He did this with Forrest the other night. DEAD ON MAN!</p>
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		<title>By: monsoon</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/07/pros-and-cons-ufc-86/comment-page-1/#comment-38105</link>
		<dc:creator>monsoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.. 10:8 rounds. Well, I don&#039;t like the scoring by rounds too much. Despite MMA is a sport, it is still somewhat about reality and - above all - fighing. While fighting you don&#039;t win rounds, you win the - and the whole - fight. That remains true in most of the traditional combat sports, where judges indeed score by real point systems. 
Therefore I would prefer the PRIDE scoring - but, you&#039;re coorect, that assumes skilled and educated judges. Though in my eyes we would need these judges as badly with the 10P-must-system. And, well, if judges scored a bout only by its last round, I would not bother. What good is a furious start if the &quot;defending&quot; fighter looks dominant in the last round? In reality he would probably win the fight. So I&#039;d like to suugest PRIDE judging system and &quot;extra rounds&quot; if there is no clear dominance towards the end of a regular bout.  That would punish the &quot;non-finishers&quot;... 

joe rogan:
I used to like him a lot - compared to Goldie! Well, I know Goldie does his job and Joe has much more liberties in the way he can comment... But he bores me. Both of the guys should be kicked off. 
I cannot take any more of Goldie&#039;s standart phrases that never ever change: e.g. announcing the ref: &quot;Big John McCarthy our Referee!&quot; - in roughly all of the last 50 UFC events I only once noted (completely stunned!) a variance. It reminds me of Catholic Priest doing their masses in alway and ever the same words and pronounciation until you cant take it anymore. 
And Joe: he doesn&#039;t seem to be that solid in BJJ AND commentating: persistently he calls an occurance of the rubberguard &quot;butterfly guard&quot;, repeating that whilst praising Eddie Bravo (the only big BJJ name he ever mentions), telling crazy stuff about how to do a rubberguard, a triangle or other stuff correctly whithout any consitency, but always by messing up left and right....
And I&#039;m really thankful that you made the point: Joe&#039;s biased! I always had the impression he was not really shure about what was going on, who was hitting whom, and what seemed to hurt. So my picture of Joe was that of a guy who was a great fan, was getting payed for (quite funny and entertaining) talking somewhat between trash and well-informed stuff, but in general was nothing more like that as a commentator - a fan, but not an expert. Glad to find out he is only &quot;biased&quot;!

Someone suggestet bringing back Randy to the commentators booth. At least for a while that would be great (and - for heaven&#039;s sake -  keep awful Bas Rutten out there!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.. 10:8 rounds. Well, I don&#8217;t like the scoring by rounds too much. Despite MMA is a sport, it is still somewhat about reality and &#8211; above all &#8211; fighing. While fighting you don&#8217;t win rounds, you win the &#8211; and the whole &#8211; fight. That remains true in most of the traditional combat sports, where judges indeed score by real point systems.<br />
Therefore I would prefer the PRIDE scoring &#8211; but, you&#8217;re coorect, that assumes skilled and educated judges. Though in my eyes we would need these judges as badly with the 10P-must-system. And, well, if judges scored a bout only by its last round, I would not bother. What good is a furious start if the &#8220;defending&#8221; fighter looks dominant in the last round? In reality he would probably win the fight. So I&#8217;d like to suugest PRIDE judging system and &#8220;extra rounds&#8221; if there is no clear dominance towards the end of a regular bout.  That would punish the &#8220;non-finishers&#8221;&#8230; </p>
<p>joe rogan:<br />
I used to like him a lot &#8211; compared to Goldie! Well, I know Goldie does his job and Joe has much more liberties in the way he can comment&#8230; But he bores me. Both of the guys should be kicked off.<br />
I cannot take any more of Goldie&#8217;s standart phrases that never ever change: e.g. announcing the ref: &#8220;Big John McCarthy our Referee!&#8221; &#8211; in roughly all of the last 50 UFC events I only once noted (completely stunned!) a variance. It reminds me of Catholic Priest doing their masses in alway and ever the same words and pronounciation until you cant take it anymore.<br />
And Joe: he doesn&#8217;t seem to be that solid in BJJ AND commentating: persistently he calls an occurance of the rubberguard &#8220;butterfly guard&#8221;, repeating that whilst praising Eddie Bravo (the only big BJJ name he ever mentions), telling crazy stuff about how to do a rubberguard, a triangle or other stuff correctly whithout any consitency, but always by messing up left and right&#8230;.<br />
And I&#8217;m really thankful that you made the point: Joe&#8217;s biased! I always had the impression he was not really shure about what was going on, who was hitting whom, and what seemed to hurt. So my picture of Joe was that of a guy who was a great fan, was getting payed for (quite funny and entertaining) talking somewhat between trash and well-informed stuff, but in general was nothing more like that as a commentator &#8211; a fan, but not an expert. Glad to find out he is only &#8220;biased&#8221;!</p>
<p>Someone suggestet bringing back Randy to the commentators booth. At least for a while that would be great (and &#8211; for heaven&#8217;s sake &#8211;  keep awful Bas Rutten out there!).</p>
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		<title>By: Greco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Rogan is always doing exactly what you said.  In fact watch the Gurgel fight that is free on their site again and listen to the commentary.  You&#039;d hardly know that Miller was in the fight.

The funny thing to me is this is exactly the reason I like him.  Its like watching the fight with a buddy that kinda knows what he&#039;s talking about.

I liked during the recent free Spike event when he said how the guy through the opposite knee while defending the single leg. a move he saw first by Uriah Faber.  For some dumb reason, I thought to myself,&quot;Self, this guy does watch all the fights.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Rogan is always doing exactly what you said.  In fact watch the Gurgel fight that is free on their site again and listen to the commentary.  You&#8217;d hardly know that Miller was in the fight.</p>
<p>The funny thing to me is this is exactly the reason I like him.  Its like watching the fight with a buddy that kinda knows what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
<p>I liked during the recent free Spike event when he said how the guy through the opposite knee while defending the single leg. a move he saw first by Uriah Faber.  For some dumb reason, I thought to myself,&#8221;Self, this guy does watch all the fights.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Qmonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Qmonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regarding Rogan commentating,,, I can&#039;t agree enough with you! a perfect example of 1 sided commentating is the Jardine &amp; Gump fight ... Joe was talking like Gump was dominating the whole fight , right up until the 3rd punch from Jardine landed on the down &amp; out Griffin ,,, Griffin was counting the stars and Rogan was thinking about the hot tub after party. I like Rogan lively commentating when it is unbias,,,but when he has 1 of his fav fighters in there he is over the top a huge nuthugger and it gets irritating &amp; I do wonder which fight he is watching,, I think he should maybe watch the fight and think about the massage he will give to his fav fighter for after the fight! He is the ultimate nuthugger commentator very bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding Rogan commentating,,, I can&#8217;t agree enough with you! a perfect example of 1 sided commentating is the Jardine &amp; Gump fight &#8230; Joe was talking like Gump was dominating the whole fight , right up until the 3rd punch from Jardine landed on the down &amp; out Griffin ,,, Griffin was counting the stars and Rogan was thinking about the hot tub after party. I like Rogan lively commentating when it is unbias,,,but when he has 1 of his fav fighters in there he is over the top a huge nuthugger and it gets irritating &amp; I do wonder which fight he is watching,, I think he should maybe watch the fight and think about the massage he will give to his fav fighter for after the fight! He is the ultimate nuthugger commentator very bias.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on Joe Rogan is this:

The guy has gone on record, a number of times, to say that he isn&#039;t really interested in non-combat sports.  He knows nothing about baseball, football, ice-hockey, whatever.  However he does watch, and has for a long time, every boxing, mma, kick-boxing, whatever combat sport he can find.  Because of that, I think he&#039;s seen a lot of fighter improve as time goes on.

Yes, he probably is biased and wants one to win more than other, whether it&#039;s because he has money on the fight, or he&#039;s a friend, or whatever.  I don&#039;t think anyone can watch a fight and be truly impartitial.  I like both Forrest and Rampage from what I&#039;ve seen on tv, they both seem like nice guys, and yet I was rooting for Rampage.  Did I want to see Forrest get hurt?  No.  Did I think Rampage was gonna win?  yes. But from a commentators point of view, if you&#039;re seeing a fighter who normally throws a sloppy left hook, and suddenly a crisp quick left hook comes out, you are going to say &quot;WOW, what a left hook&quot;  because you didn&#039;t expect such a good shot from that fighter.  

If you&#039;re watching a World Champ Muay Thai fighter, and he throws a powerful leg kick, well, it&#039;s not going to be that impressive, because he throws that every day, so yes the response would be less.

People give him a hard time, but the truth is Joe Rogan is a huge MMA fan.  he remembers details of fights that most of us have probably never even heard of.  He gets excited because he really has one of the best seats in the house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on Joe Rogan is this:</p>
<p>The guy has gone on record, a number of times, to say that he isn&#8217;t really interested in non-combat sports.  He knows nothing about baseball, football, ice-hockey, whatever.  However he does watch, and has for a long time, every boxing, mma, kick-boxing, whatever combat sport he can find.  Because of that, I think he&#8217;s seen a lot of fighter improve as time goes on.</p>
<p>Yes, he probably is biased and wants one to win more than other, whether it&#8217;s because he has money on the fight, or he&#8217;s a friend, or whatever.  I don&#8217;t think anyone can watch a fight and be truly impartitial.  I like both Forrest and Rampage from what I&#8217;ve seen on tv, they both seem like nice guys, and yet I was rooting for Rampage.  Did I want to see Forrest get hurt?  No.  Did I think Rampage was gonna win?  yes. But from a commentators point of view, if you&#8217;re seeing a fighter who normally throws a sloppy left hook, and suddenly a crisp quick left hook comes out, you are going to say &#8220;WOW, what a left hook&#8221;  because you didn&#8217;t expect such a good shot from that fighter.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re watching a World Champ Muay Thai fighter, and he throws a powerful leg kick, well, it&#8217;s not going to be that impressive, because he throws that every day, so yes the response would be less.</p>
<p>People give him a hard time, but the truth is Joe Rogan is a huge MMA fan.  he remembers details of fights that most of us have probably never even heard of.  He gets excited because he really has one of the best seats in the house.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Rogan.

He&#039;s like a rabid fan while commentating. If you go back and watch the GSP fight with Karo, Rogan was going on about how Karo is so dangerous and that GSP should watch out and all the while Karo was getting pounded to a pulp. Same with Chuck-Jardine fight. He made it look as if the fight was one sided. Sure Jardine won but it was a close match. Again Rogan was calling only the Jardine shots. Hopefully the judges aren&#039;t listening to his commentary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Rogan.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s like a rabid fan while commentating. If you go back and watch the GSP fight with Karo, Rogan was going on about how Karo is so dangerous and that GSP should watch out and all the while Karo was getting pounded to a pulp. Same with Chuck-Jardine fight. He made it look as if the fight was one sided. Sure Jardine won but it was a close match. Again Rogan was calling only the Jardine shots. Hopefully the judges aren&#8217;t listening to his commentary!</p>
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		<title>By: derreckla</title>
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		<dc:creator>derreckla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Rogan

He is great.  He is always informitive about bjj and what&#039;s going to happen next.  He does however, get inside of Dana WHite&#039;s Hype machine, making you believe a fights going to be better then it is.

I love Goldberg.  He is a cartoon charecter.  We get a crackup on Goldbergs face when he says &quot;with me as always JOE Rogan&quot; and turns to rogan like an inch away from his grill and holds a look like he had his forehead surgicaly crinkled ala robert deniro.  Watch it it&#039;s funny as hell...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Rogan</p>
<p>He is great.  He is always informitive about bjj and what&#8217;s going to happen next.  He does however, get inside of Dana WHite&#8217;s Hype machine, making you believe a fights going to be better then it is.</p>
<p>I love Goldberg.  He is a cartoon charecter.  We get a crackup on Goldbergs face when he says &#8220;with me as always JOE Rogan&#8221; and turns to rogan like an inch away from his grill and holds a look like he had his forehead surgicaly crinkled ala robert deniro.  Watch it it&#8217;s funny as hell&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: steak knife</title>
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		<dc:creator>steak knife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MMAFan&#039;s English lesson @ #12 is awesome.

Joe Rogan missed a telecast last year (I forgot which one).  Bottomline: He might be annoying, but you miss him when he&#039;s gone.  He&#039;s not going anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MMAFan&#8217;s English lesson @ #12 is awesome.</p>
<p>Joe Rogan missed a telecast last year (I forgot which one).  Bottomline: He might be annoying, but you miss him when he&#8217;s gone.  He&#8217;s not going anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: mike wolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way I&#039;ll ever watch tennis is if they allow some form of full contact.  How about you&#039;re allowed to lob a return, leap the net and tackle the receiving player as long as the ball is still in the air?  And no pads.  Now that would be cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way I&#8217;ll ever watch tennis is if they allow some form of full contact.  How about you&#8217;re allowed to lob a return, leap the net and tackle the receiving player as long as the ball is still in the air?  And no pads.  Now that would be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: bubbafat</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubbafat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10-8 rds.-  my understanding was that you had to do virtually nothing  to get an 8? Rogan&#039;s not in there for his journalistic objectivity. I thought Cote was toast when it hit the ground. I&#039;d like to see Taylor fight at least once to see whether or not he&#039;s improved, but Guillard&#039;s a lost cause even with the quick KO. He&#039;s an earbiter if I&#039;ve ever seen one. And, they probably went a little overboard on the weight div. restructure, but I like that they split the HW div. Covering the mouth was always cheap to me too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10-8 rds.-  my understanding was that you had to do virtually nothing  to get an 8? Rogan&#8217;s not in there for his journalistic objectivity. I thought Cote was toast when it hit the ground. I&#8217;d like to see Taylor fight at least once to see whether or not he&#8217;s improved, but Guillard&#8217;s a lost cause even with the quick KO. He&#8217;s an earbiter if I&#8217;ve ever seen one. And, they probably went a little overboard on the weight div. restructure, but I like that they split the HW div. Covering the mouth was always cheap to me too.</p>
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen an MMA commentator that could call a fight perfectly. Sometimes a particular fighter&#039;s style just evokes more comments from a commentator with a given background, especially a guy who speaks from the top of his head like Joe sometimes does. And sometimes it does seem like he is just really stoked on one fighter. 

I don&#039;t see it as a huge issue since the commentary shouldn&#039;t be affecting the ref or judges, and it doesn&#039;t seem *that* biased to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve seen an MMA commentator that could call a fight perfectly. Sometimes a particular fighter&#8217;s style just evokes more comments from a commentator with a given background, especially a guy who speaks from the top of his head like Joe sometimes does. And sometimes it does seem like he is just really stoked on one fighter. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see it as a huge issue since the commentary shouldn&#8217;t be affecting the ref or judges, and it doesn&#8217;t seem *that* biased to me.</p>
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		<title>By: banditt2</title>
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		<dc:creator>banditt2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from this web site

According to UFC President Dana White, Patrick Cote has earned himself a title shot. The plan is to have Anderson Silva fight with Yushin Okami, then slide Cote into the title fight against the winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from this web site</p>
<p>According to UFC President Dana White, Patrick Cote has earned himself a title shot. The plan is to have Anderson Silva fight with Yushin Okami, then slide Cote into the title fight against the winner.</p>
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		<title>By: is0butane</title>
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		<dc:creator>is0butane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, no mention of Rogan&#039;s elegant description of lydle&#039;s bleeding &quot;goat&#039;s vag..&quot;!? That&#039;s up there with his rape choke comment... Say what you will about Rogan.. he&#039;s just plain funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, no mention of Rogan&#8217;s elegant description of lydle&#8217;s bleeding &#8220;goat&#8217;s vag..&#8221;!? That&#8217;s up there with his rape choke comment&#8230; Say what you will about Rogan.. he&#8217;s just plain funny.</p>
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		<title>By: banditt2</title>
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		<dc:creator>banditt2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i read on here some where that Dana White said that Okami does get a title shot and that Cote gets the winner of that fight.

can some one conferm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i read on here some where that Dana White said that Okami does get a title shot and that Cote gets the winner of that fight.</p>
<p>can some one conferm?</p>
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		<title>By: MMAFan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/07/pros-and-cons-ufc-86/comment-page-1/#comment-37796</link>
		<dc:creator>MMAFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the missed typo in &quot;commentating&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the missed typo in &#8220;commentating&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MMAFan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/07/pros-and-cons-ufc-86/comment-page-1/#comment-37795</link>
		<dc:creator>MMAFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another MMA website, apparent bias in Joe Rogan&#039;s reporting was discussed and replies indicated favoritism for a particular fighter.

As for Mike Goldberg, I am mildly amused by some of the stupid remarks that come out of his mouth.  But this retired teacher&#039;s pet peeve is with his grammatical inaccuracy, especially when he inserts an unnecessary preposition in a relative clause (e.g., the opponent in which he will face) or repeats the preposition at the end of the clause (e.g., a look at the cage in which they will fight in).  The man is doing nothing to improve the illiteracy problem that is too prevalent across America.

Nonetheless, I do like both men and enjoy listening to their commentatiing.
They both have a voice that beckons to the ear and deliver an energy and vitality that keep the broadcast interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another MMA website, apparent bias in Joe Rogan&#8217;s reporting was discussed and replies indicated favoritism for a particular fighter.</p>
<p>As for Mike Goldberg, I am mildly amused by some of the stupid remarks that come out of his mouth.  But this retired teacher&#8217;s pet peeve is with his grammatical inaccuracy, especially when he inserts an unnecessary preposition in a relative clause (e.g., the opponent in which he will face) or repeats the preposition at the end of the clause (e.g., a look at the cage in which they will fight in).  The man is doing nothing to improve the illiteracy problem that is too prevalent across America.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I do like both men and enjoy listening to their commentatiing.<br />
They both have a voice that beckons to the ear and deliver an energy and vitality that keep the broadcast interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabricio</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/07/pros-and-cons-ufc-86/comment-page-1/#comment-37794</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabricio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop your whining about the undercards.   Whats up? never been to an MMA website before?    Crazy little thing you might be missing.  This little thing you publish your writings on is called the WORLD WIDE WEB  not the North American  Internets ( for the kids) , not the &quot;post what Huckaby can&#039;t find or readily see in his area or timezone but screw everyone else around the globe&quot;ernet. 

Stop crying Mike, don&#039;t visit on gameday, don&#039;t read the PBP  if you don&#039;t want the answer to the question don&#039;t ask it.    

I remember one time I wanted to check and see what day the NFL draft was, So I went to NFL.com ,  it was superbowl sunday and wouldn&#039;t you  know those douche bags didn&#039;t realize I had to Tivo the game  and they put the f&#039;n winner right there on the front page, with a picture, and score and everything.  ......................Those  A holes at ESPN did the same f&#039;n thing the next year...............I wish they would stop,  Mike thinks spoilers in our timezones are a bad thing, and if Mike wants it , that is how it should be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop your whining about the undercards.   Whats up? never been to an MMA website before?    Crazy little thing you might be missing.  This little thing you publish your writings on is called the WORLD WIDE WEB  not the North American  Internets ( for the kids) , not the &#8220;post what Huckaby can&#8217;t find or readily see in his area or timezone but screw everyone else around the globe&#8221;ernet. </p>
<p>Stop crying Mike, don&#8217;t visit on gameday, don&#8217;t read the PBP  if you don&#8217;t want the answer to the question don&#8217;t ask it.    </p>
<p>I remember one time I wanted to check and see what day the NFL draft was, So I went to NFL.com ,  it was superbowl sunday and wouldn&#8217;t you  know those douche bags didn&#8217;t realize I had to Tivo the game  and they put the f&#8217;n winner right there on the front page, with a picture, and score and everything.  &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Those  A holes at ESPN did the same f&#8217;n thing the next year&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I wish they would stop,  Mike thinks spoilers in our timezones are a bad thing, and if Mike wants it , that is how it should be</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/07/pros-and-cons-ufc-86/comment-page-1/#comment-37788</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Rogan:  I think it&#039;s just the way he&#039;s seated at ringside.  If you spot him and Goldie on the telecast, Goldie watches the monitors and sees various angles, Joe&#039;s watchin through the cage.  With fighters tryin for octogon control, langauge barriers, and crowd noise some guys just try to stick to one close area.  This could lead to the &quot;one sided&quot; commentary.  Just a thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Rogan:  I think it&#8217;s just the way he&#8217;s seated at ringside.  If you spot him and Goldie on the telecast, Goldie watches the monitors and sees various angles, Joe&#8217;s watchin through the cage.  With fighters tryin for octogon control, langauge barriers, and crowd noise some guys just try to stick to one close area.  This could lead to the &#8220;one sided&#8221; commentary.  Just a thought!</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think this is a hige part of the trolling found on so many message boards...people are seeing low quality fights on their computer instead of shelling out the money for it to look good on TV. 

&quot;CON: “My feed went out.” Go to any chatroom or message board and this will always come up. I don’t care, shut your mouth.

“MY FEED WENT OUT”
“n e 1 elses feed go out?”
“OMG wtf feed!?”
“WHERE’S DA FEED?!”&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think this is a hige part of the trolling found on so many message boards&#8230;people are seeing low quality fights on their computer instead of shelling out the money for it to look good on TV. </p>
<p>&#8220;CON: “My feed went out.” Go to any chatroom or message board and this will always come up. I don’t care, shut your mouth.</p>
<p>“MY FEED WENT OUT”<br />
“n e 1 elses feed go out?”<br />
“OMG wtf feed!?”<br />
“WHERE’S DA FEED?!”&#8221;</p>
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