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	<title>Comments on: UFC 86 Paydays</title>
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		<title>By: king mah mah</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/09/ufc-86-paydays/comment-page-1/#comment-38184</link>
		<dc:creator>king mah mah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the kind of stuff Tito was talking about. Like him or not, he had some good points. Mike i completely agree on Lytle, he should have got at least $30,000 or something. 

There needs to be a flat rate for every fighter under contract, regardless if it&#039;s on the main card or not. $5,000 is an insult when you&#039;re risking your life in the octagon, or risking a broken bone or any injury for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the kind of stuff Tito was talking about. Like him or not, he had some good points. Mike i completely agree on Lytle, he should have got at least $30,000 or something. </p>
<p>There needs to be a flat rate for every fighter under contract, regardless if it&#8217;s on the main card or not. $5,000 is an insult when you&#8217;re risking your life in the octagon, or risking a broken bone or any injury for that matter.
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		<title>By: Cobra Kai</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/09/ufc-86-paydays/comment-page-1/#comment-38180</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobra Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can Gurgel finally be kicked out of the UFC?  The guy must have pictures of Dana making out with Tito or something.  I have no idea how that guy is still in the UFC.  Every fight that he wins goes to decision and the only guys he has beat in the UFC have never won in the UFC.  One of them has lost 3 times in the UFC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can Gurgel finally be kicked out of the UFC?  The guy must have pictures of Dana making out with Tito or something.  I have no idea how that guy is still in the UFC.  Every fight that he wins goes to decision and the only guys he has beat in the UFC have never won in the UFC.  One of them has lost 3 times in the UFC.
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		<title>By: Cobra Kai</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/09/ufc-86-paydays/comment-page-1/#comment-38179</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobra Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12, you can&#039;t compare boxing undercard fighters with MMA undercard fighters.  No one watches those fights, on the other hand a lot of people are really into the undercard fights for MMA.  Either way, do you really want MMA to be like boxing?  A few extremely high paid fighters, a ton of low paid fighters, and not much in between?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12, you can&#8217;t compare boxing undercard fighters with MMA undercard fighters.  No one watches those fights, on the other hand a lot of people are really into the undercard fights for MMA.  Either way, do you really want MMA to be like boxing?  A few extremely high paid fighters, a ton of low paid fighters, and not much in between?
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		<title>By: Cobra Kai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cobra Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a good article that really lays out why the lower tier fighters should get paid more. 

http://www.mmapayout.com/2008/07/fighter-salaries-minimum-fighter.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a good article that really lays out why the lower tier fighters should get paid more. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.mmapayout.com/2008/07/fighter-salaries-minimum-fighter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mmapayout.com/2008/07/fighter-salaries-minimum-fighter.html</a>
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		<title>By: AJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t to defend the UFC for underpaying fighters - the salaries could stand to go up a bit - but in reference to how much they take home vs. how much the UFC takes home, let&#039;s not forget that revenue =/= profit.  The arena cost; the advertising cost; the staffing cost; etc. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t to defend the UFC for underpaying fighters &#8211; the salaries could stand to go up a bit &#8211; but in reference to how much they take home vs. how much the UFC takes home, let&#8217;s not forget that revenue =/= profit.  The arena cost; the advertising cost; the staffing cost; etc. etc.
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		<title>By: Hurtch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurtch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5- You really think $5000 is a joke for a curtain-tugger who brings in exactly 0 fans and could have been swapped for any of hundreds of HW&#039;s who would jump at the chance to fight on a UFC show?

If Justin McCully was a boxer he probably would have made 100$ and a pat on the back for a fight of similar stature.

The UFC compensates their fighters fairly well, particularly at the lower and mid-level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5- You really think $5000 is a joke for a curtain-tugger who brings in exactly 0 fans and could have been swapped for any of hundreds of HW&#8217;s who would jump at the chance to fight on a UFC show?</p>
<p>If Justin McCully was a boxer he probably would have made 100$ and a pat on the back for a fight of similar stature.</p>
<p>The UFC compensates their fighters fairly well, particularly at the lower and mid-level.
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope some of you realize that UFC undercard salaries are usually better than boxing undercard salaries</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope some of you realize that UFC undercard salaries are usually better than boxing undercard salaries
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		<title>By: BJJDenver</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJJDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huckaby, I do kind of agree with you on Lytle. Maybe they should have some sort of pay based on number of fights or something. Even Almeida didn&#039;t make much and he is a seasoned vet.


Maybe Gurgel should split his pay amongst the other guys, lol?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckaby, I do kind of agree with you on Lytle. Maybe they should have some sort of pay based on number of fights or something. Even Almeida didn&#8217;t make much and he is a seasoned vet.</p>
<p>Maybe Gurgel should split his pay amongst the other guys, lol?
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		<title>By: BJJDenver</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJJDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many guys get 8k in their 2nd pro fight?

Sure, I would like to see these guys get more money, but who is the promotion that is paying as much or more than the UFC?

Wasn&#039;t Strikeforce paying someone $500 a couple of shows ago?

I would love to see some sort of minimum payday for these guys, but that would kill smaller shows.

And I don&#039;t think anyone outside of EXC pays bonuses. I may be wrong, but every fighter on the card has an opportunity to make some good money through that and the UFC has shown willingness to pay it even for untelevised fights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many guys get 8k in their 2nd pro fight?</p>
<p>Sure, I would like to see these guys get more money, but who is the promotion that is paying as much or more than the UFC?</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t Strikeforce paying someone $500 a couple of shows ago?</p>
<p>I would love to see some sort of minimum payday for these guys, but that would kill smaller shows.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think anyone outside of EXC pays bonuses. I may be wrong, but every fighter on the card has an opportunity to make some good money through that and the UFC has shown willingness to pay it even for untelevised fights.
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		<title>By: BJJDenver</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/09/ufc-86-paydays/comment-page-1/#comment-38135</link>
		<dc:creator>BJJDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>forgot one:

BJJDenver  -$54.99</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forgot one:</p>
<p>BJJDenver  -$54.99
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