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	<title>Comments on: Vote Now: CBSSports.com&#8217;s &#8220;King Quest&#8221; to determine the greatest fighter of all-time</title>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll counter Ivan with Clubber Lang for the #1 seed.  Who&#039;s this &quot;Fedor&quot; anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll counter Ivan with Clubber Lang for the #1 seed.  Who&#8217;s this &#8220;Fedor&#8221; anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Cung Le is allowed on this list so should Frank Dux and Joe Armstrong, since we are obviously shooting to determine the Greatest Fantasy Land Absurdist Champion Of All Time. My vote is for Ivan Drago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Cung Le is allowed on this list so should Frank Dux and Joe Armstrong, since we are obviously shooting to determine the Greatest Fantasy Land Absurdist Champion Of All Time. My vote is for Ivan Drago.</p>
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		<title>By: sobral311</title>
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		<dc:creator>sobral311</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frank shamrock no.1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frank shamrock no.1</p>
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		<title>By: Tattool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tattool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cung Le? FTW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cung Le? FTW?</p>
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		<title>By: Nolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;Ken Shamrock? Royce Gracie?

Why not add Kimbo Slice to the list?&quot;&quot;

...

Are you a total newb or a total tard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Ken Shamrock? Royce Gracie?</p>
<p>Why not add Kimbo Slice to the list?&#8221;"</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Are you a total newb or a total tard?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MoreThanUFC...its not Sakuraba. 

Now will you please send me a plaque that clearly states my personal level of a fan? It would look beautiful above my octagon shaped fire place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MoreThanUFC&#8230;its not Sakuraba. </p>
<p>Now will you please send me a plaque that clearly states my personal level of a fan? It would look beautiful above my octagon shaped fire place.</p>
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		<title>By: MoreThanUFC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoreThanUFC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you dont say Saku, then you are very new to the sport, like say the last five years, and all you&#039;ve watched was the UFC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you dont say Saku, then you are very new to the sport, like say the last five years, and all you&#8217;ve watched was the UFC.</p>
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		<title>By: BJJDenver</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJJDenver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but this is funny to me.

When you discuss something like the greatest ever, it is similar to a hall of fame conversation. You have to be at the top of the sport, for an extended period of time and make a significant contribution or difference in the sport.

Cung Le? Even Anderson could be argued as not being deserving...yet. Same for many of the guys on there, they just haven&#039;t come close to completing their careers yet. Seriously, who has Cung fought to deserve mention here? Nothing against him, but his only significant win is an aging Frank Shamrock. And by aging, I mean his career is nearing the end.

I know, much of this is about generating the debate, but it is laughable. This is like asking which baseball player had the best career and include guys that have only played a couple of years and who have mostly played currently or recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but this is funny to me.</p>
<p>When you discuss something like the greatest ever, it is similar to a hall of fame conversation. You have to be at the top of the sport, for an extended period of time and make a significant contribution or difference in the sport.</p>
<p>Cung Le? Even Anderson could be argued as not being deserving&#8230;yet. Same for many of the guys on there, they just haven&#8217;t come close to completing their careers yet. Seriously, who has Cung fought to deserve mention here? Nothing against him, but his only significant win is an aging Frank Shamrock. And by aging, I mean his career is nearing the end.</p>
<p>I know, much of this is about generating the debate, but it is laughable. This is like asking which baseball player had the best career and include guys that have only played a couple of years and who have mostly played currently or recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 - The Legend. I&#039;m going to guess because CBSsports.com is for the common sports fan and a lot of causal MMA fans my have seen him on showtime. While I am sure Sam doesn&#039;t expect him to win its better than obscure names that people may have never heard of but the Die Hards know.

With that said I am sure Cro Cop is going to lose handily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 &#8211; The Legend. I&#8217;m going to guess because CBSsports.com is for the common sports fan and a lot of causal MMA fans my have seen him on showtime. While I am sure Sam doesn&#8217;t expect him to win its better than obscure names that people may have never heard of but the Die Hards know.</p>
<p>With that said I am sure Cro Cop is going to lose handily.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike d</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at #4 are u serious kimbo slice what the hell he has not fought any sort of top filght comp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at #4 are u serious kimbo slice what the hell he has not fought any sort of top filght comp</p>
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		<title>By: The Legend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Legend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, honestly why is Cung Le on there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, honestly why is Cung Le on there?</p>
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		<title>By: Revjames13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revjames13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way too many unnecessary names here. You could immediately narrow this down to:

Royce Gracie, Bas Rutten, Josh Barnett, Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Randy Couture, Dan Henderson, GSP, Anderson Silva, Cro Cop, Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, BJ Penn, Nogueira, Faber, and Fedor.

Of course, it&#039;s too early to tell with the best current guys, like GSP and Penn. And guys like Hughes have lost their luster with recent losses.

Bas Rutten had the best career of the older guys. Whoever wins the Penn/GSP superfight has great potential to head this list down the line. Anderson Silva is the obvious current choice, along with Fedor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way too many unnecessary names here. You could immediately narrow this down to:</p>
<p>Royce Gracie, Bas Rutten, Josh Barnett, Ken Shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Randy Couture, Dan Henderson, GSP, Anderson Silva, Cro Cop, Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, BJ Penn, Nogueira, Faber, and Fedor.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s too early to tell with the best current guys, like GSP and Penn. And guys like Hughes have lost their luster with recent losses.</p>
<p>Bas Rutten had the best career of the older guys. Whoever wins the Penn/GSP superfight has great potential to head this list down the line. Anderson Silva is the obvious current choice, along with Fedor.</p>
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#5 He went on to become a BIGGER fighter, thanks to roids...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#5 He went on to become a BIGGER fighter, thanks to roids&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: screwface</title>
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		<dc:creator>screwface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>randy isnt called the natural for nothing, and barnett loves the sauce hence his tantrums when he loses and why he doesnt fight in the us often, testing is too strict. btw these matchups are all rediculous, not sure why this was posted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>randy isnt called the natural for nothing, and barnett loves the sauce hence his tantrums when he loses and why he doesnt fight in the us often, testing is too strict. btw these matchups are all rediculous, not sure why this was posted.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is stupid....Faber vs a heavy weight... how does this show who the best fighter is.. size has alot to do with it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is stupid&#8230;.Faber vs a heavy weight&#8230; how does this show who the best fighter is.. size has alot to do with it</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Regan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who in their right mind would ever put Couture over Barnett? Barnett defeated Couture soundly AND went on to become a MUCH MUCH better fighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who in their right mind would ever put Couture over Barnett? Barnett defeated Couture soundly AND went on to become a MUCH MUCH better fighter.</p>
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		<title>By: KneeToTheFace</title>
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		<dc:creator>KneeToTheFace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken Shamrock? Royce Gracie? Cung Le? Don Frye?

Why not add Kimbo Slice to the list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Shamrock? Royce Gracie? Cung Le? Don Frye?</p>
<p>Why not add Kimbo Slice to the list?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two years from now, I bet Miguel Torres is seeded higher than 25th.

Anderson&#039;s been dominant lately, but I don&#039;t know that he&#039;s Wanderlei dominant. I might&#039;ve switched those two berths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years from now, I bet Miguel Torres is seeded higher than 25th.</p>
<p>Anderson&#8217;s been dominant lately, but I don&#8217;t know that he&#8217;s Wanderlei dominant. I might&#8217;ve switched those two berths.</p>
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		<title>By: Nolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bas should be way higher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bas should be way higher</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Rich Franklin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Rich Franklin</p>
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