Comments on: Trying to make a case for Tim Sylvia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 12:13:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jim Y http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39251 Jim Y Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:12:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39251 and I meant to TALENT and I meant to TALENT

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]]> By: Jim Y http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39250 Jim Y Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:10:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39250 I just can't wait to see Timmy once again get his arm broken. These men's past fights show who has talend and who doesn't. I respect all mma fighters and who knows it happens alot that a fighter gets lucky and throws a haymaker and catches buddy on the ko button. Hands down sylvia is going to be scared of darth fedor because he is a machine. I just can’t wait to see Timmy once again get his arm broken. These men’s past fights show who has talend and who doesn’t. I respect all mma fighters and who knows it happens alot that a fighter gets lucky and throws a haymaker and catches buddy on the ko button. Hands down sylvia is going to be scared of darth fedor because he is a machine.

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]]> By: Marc S http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39184 Marc S Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:42:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39184 #19 If you say so than it must be, because you say so! I'll start looking for another sport to be a fan of since Tim's ass is going to go thru the ropes causing a restart. So, they'll restart them, so what! Majority of Tim's fights were in cages (including at least his last 16 fights, maybe more dating back to at least 2002). Except his numerous Sambo fights, Fedor's last 29 fights have occurred in a ring (yes, that's all of them). But I'm no longer a fan, due to your ingenious insight and opinion. However, when I was a fan I noticed that Fedor punches kinda hard and Tim doesn't enjoy getting hit too much...and he doesn't take a great shot. That's what he briefly has to look forward to. Fedor will wobble Timmy, Timmy falls and gets pounced on, eventually asking Fedor to take an arm- request granted and Fedor releases just prior to snapping the arm in half. Ass thru the ropes! #19 If you say so than it must be, because you say so! I’ll start looking for another sport to be a fan of since Tim’s ass is going to go thru the ropes causing a restart. So, they’ll restart them, so what! Majority of Tim’s fights were in cages (including at least his last 16 fights, maybe more dating back to at least 2002). Except his numerous Sambo fights, Fedor’s last 29 fights have occurred in a ring (yes, that’s all of them). But I’m no longer a fan, due to your ingenious insight and opinion. However, when I was a fan I noticed that Fedor punches kinda hard and Tim doesn’t enjoy getting hit too much…and he doesn’t take a great shot. That’s what he briefly has to look forward to. Fedor will wobble Timmy, Timmy falls and gets pounced on, eventually asking Fedor to take an arm- request granted and Fedor releases just prior to snapping the arm in half. Ass thru the ropes!

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]]> By: b.w. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39171 b.w. Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:09:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39171 what happened to "more than ufc's" posts? what happened to “more than ufc’s” posts?

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]]> By: b.w. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39155 b.w. Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:16:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39155 #31-32. are you the same mtufc from mma mania. if so iw ondered what ever happened to you. #31-32. are you the same mtufc from mma mania. if so iw ondered what ever happened to you.

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]]> By: Nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39151 Nate Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:09:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39151 great analysis, especially mentioning the Mark Hunt fight. That was always one of my favorites.. and even vs Fujita... the one I think he came the closest to losing. great analysis, especially mentioning the Mark Hunt fight. That was always one of my favorites.. and even vs Fujita… the one I think he came the closest to losing.

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39115 Cathedron Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:38:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39115 Tim is so easy to hate, but I don't think anyone should say this will be an easy fight for Fedor. Tim's game keeps steadily improving and his wrestling is always great (you don't last long at MFS otherwise - this here is rasslin' country, after all - god knows we have nothing else to be proud of), he just knows his reach doesn't favor the ground game and tries to avoid it. Fedor's rust is a big issue. It always is both mentally and physically for any athlete. Sylvia's got an embarrassing loss spurring him on. I'm expecting the most aggressive fight we've ever seen from him. I think the ring vs cage thing barely matters. Tim has cage experience, but the ring favors strikers and most of his training is done in a ring anyway. He should be fairly comfortable. On the other hand, Fedor has no cage experience (which would be a big issue) but he's used to grappling in a ring and specializes in standing grappling. It shouldn't be much of an issue for either fighter. I think the bigger issue might be Fedor dealing with how intimidating and aggressive American crowds can be. That's rattled more than a fair share of fighters. Sylvia seems to thrive on it. Now, he's going to have people actually rooting for him as the American fighter. He's going to be pumped. Tim is so easy to hate, but I don’t think anyone should say this will be an easy fight for Fedor. Tim’s game keeps steadily improving and his wrestling is always great (you don’t last long at MFS otherwise – this here is rasslin’ country, after all – god knows we have nothing else to be proud of), he just knows his reach doesn’t favor the ground game and tries to avoid it. Fedor’s rust is a big issue. It always is both mentally and physically for any athlete. Sylvia’s got an embarrassing loss spurring him on. I’m expecting the most aggressive fight we’ve ever seen from him.

I think the ring vs cage thing barely matters. Tim has cage experience, but the ring favors strikers and most of his training is done in a ring anyway. He should be fairly comfortable. On the other hand, Fedor has no cage experience (which would be a big issue) but he’s used to grappling in a ring and specializes in standing grappling. It shouldn’t be much of an issue for either fighter.

I think the bigger issue might be Fedor dealing with how intimidating and aggressive American crowds can be. That’s rattled more than a fair share of fighters. Sylvia seems to thrive on it. Now, he’s going to have people actually rooting for him as the American fighter. He’s going to be pumped.

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]]> By: mo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39114 mo Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:30:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39114 and yikes, #26 i just read that article and it doesn't sound good for Rampage. man, i guess he won't be getting that immediate re-match for the title now and yikes, #26 i just read that article and it doesn’t sound good for Rampage. man, i guess he won’t be getting that immediate re-match for the title now

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]]> By: Matt Cook http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39113 Matt Cook Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:26:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39113 Check out TMZ. Rampage Jackson just got busted for a hit and run. He tried to run from the cops in his truck with his picture on the side of it. Check out TMZ. Rampage Jackson just got busted for a hit and run. He tried to run from the cops in his truck with his picture on the side of it.

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]]> By: mo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39112 mo Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:23:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39112 i just like that the title is "trying to make a case for Tim". Hopefuly the miletich crew has some more creative ways for time to win. I find it crazy that so many people give big tim zero chance in this. #17 makes a great point, and it is just funny how people don't like big tim so they just dismiss any ability he has. i am by no means a Sylvia fan, but it isn't like he has gotten slaughtered before and his motivation is probably much higher for this fight then it has been for some of his last one's when i suspect he knew he was leaving the UFC i just like that the title is “trying to make a case for Tim”. Hopefuly the miletich crew has some more creative ways for time to win. I find it crazy that so many people give big tim zero chance in this. #17 makes a great point, and it is just funny how people don’t like big tim so they just dismiss any ability he has. i am by no means a Sylvia fan, but it isn’t like he has gotten slaughtered before and his motivation is probably much higher for this fight then it has been for some of his last one’s when i suspect he knew he was leaving the UFC

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39110 Mike Wolfe Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:11:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39110 #26 Ronin Man, that's just sad. #26 Ronin

Man, that’s just sad.

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]]> By: Ronin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39107 Ronin Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:44:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39107 OFF-topic here but Rampage just got arrested!!! http://www.dailypilot.com/articles/2008/07/15/publicsafety/dpt-pursuit071608.txt OFF-topic here but Rampage just got arrested!!!

http://www.dailypilot.com/articles/2008/07/15/publicsafety/dpt-pursuit071608.txt

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]]> By: double A-ron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39098 double A-ron Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:51:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39098 I see fedor winning pretty easily in this one. Get the big man down and finish with the emperors special-Armbar. The ring won't be able to save Timmy. They could fight in a phone booth and it wouldn't matter. I also don't see how it's said that Fedor has nothing to win since it was stated that Tim's opponents records are 94-27 meaning that Tim has fought the best. So who does Fedor have to fight to be considered the best? Definately not Randy Couture who is getting older by the minute. I see fedor winning pretty easily in this one. Get the big man down and finish with the emperors special-Armbar. The ring won’t be able to save Timmy. They could fight in a phone booth and it wouldn’t matter. I also don’t see how it’s said that Fedor has nothing to win since it was stated that Tim’s opponents records are 94-27 meaning that Tim has fought the best. So who does Fedor have to fight to be considered the best? Definately not Randy Couture who is getting older by the minute.

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]]> By: Schlegel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39097 Schlegel Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39097 "The Ring is ADVANTAGE SYLVIA, and anyone who says different is so wrong they need to rethink being a fan in the first place. " Well Fabricio I disagree with almost everything in your post and i don't plan on stopping my 13 years of being an MMA Fan. The problem I have with the part i quoted is that Tim has soooo much more experience in a cage that there is no way he is at a disadvantage if it is a cage. Yeah he needs to stay away from Fedor on the ground, but he has had to stay away from other fighters on the ground in the past and done so inside of a cage. The fact that they would be repositioned in a ring doesnt change the fact that they would still be in the same position in the middle of the ring. While Fedor is going to be the aggresor in the match, i dont think he will be pushing tim around. Like other posters commented, I think it will be more of Fedor taking advantage of the scrambles to gain postion or take Tim down. Either way the one thing I think about this fight is that it is up in the air. Yeah Fedor is the man and I do not argue that point, but there is also no denying that Tim has constantly faced top competition and has a tough style to beat. Yeah it is very posssible Fedor gets that arm and snaps it, but it is also quite possible that Tim can keep that jab working and his feet moving and wins by decision or cut/stoppage. - Just my thoughts though “The Ring is ADVANTAGE SYLVIA, and anyone who says different is so wrong they need to rethink being a fan in the first place. ”

Well Fabricio I disagree with almost everything in your post and i don’t plan on stopping my 13 years of being an MMA Fan. The problem I have with the part i quoted is that Tim has soooo much more experience in a cage that there is no way he is at a disadvantage if it is a cage. Yeah he needs to stay away from Fedor on the ground, but he has had to stay away from other fighters on the ground in the past and done so inside of a cage.
The fact that they would be repositioned in a ring doesnt change the fact that they would still be in the same position in the middle of the ring. While Fedor is going to be the aggresor in the match, i dont think he will be pushing tim around. Like other posters commented, I think it will be more of Fedor taking advantage of the scrambles to gain postion or take Tim down.

Either way the one thing I think about this fight is that it is up in the air. Yeah Fedor is the man and I do not argue that point, but there is also no denying that Tim has constantly faced top competition and has a tough style to beat. Yeah it is very posssible Fedor gets that arm and snaps it, but it is also quite possible that Tim can keep that jab working and his feet moving and wins by decision or cut/stoppage. – Just my thoughts though

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]]> By: ultmma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39096 ultmma Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39096 #13 when Apollo Creed came out to the ring with James Brown's "Living in America" backing him, you know what happened?? Apollo Creed died thats what happened ( he also died in Predator) Now i don't think anyone is predicting Fedor via death, this fiht will go at least 3 rounds Big Tim is a vet now and it will be tough to catch him early. He still struggles against athletic heavyweights like Big Nog and Couture and i don't see this fight being any different Fedor late 3rd round sub win in a great fight, where Fedor has to make a comeback to win #13 when Apollo Creed came out to the ring with James Brown’s “Living in America” backing him, you know what happened??

Apollo Creed died thats what happened ( he also died in Predator)

Now i don’t think anyone is predicting Fedor via death, this fiht will go at least 3 rounds Big Tim is a vet now and it will be tough to catch him early.

He still struggles against athletic heavyweights like Big Nog and Couture and i don’t see this fight being any different

Fedor late 3rd round sub win in a great fight, where Fedor has to make a comeback to win

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]]> By: Sean http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39094 Sean Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:26:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39094 Great insight<i> Great insight

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]]> By: bubbafat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39087 bubbafat Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:15:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39087 I love Fedor man. But, and I never call fights like this, Tim wins by cut and refferee stoppage. I love Fedor man. But, and I never call fights like this, Tim wins by cut and refferee stoppage.

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39086 Jackyl Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:12:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39086 This fight echoes a recurring theme in a lot of recent MMA matches. The huge underdog vs the obvious favorite. The favorite with nothing to lose and the underdog with everything to gain. These matches are most dangerous for the guy at the top of the heap. With a loss, Fedor stands to lose his mystique as the best fighter in the world. With a win, Tim Sylvia catapaults himself into the stratosphere with a win over the best fighter in the world. A win for Fedor is just another win, a loss is career altering. Same on the opposite side for Sylvia. A loss is just a loss, but a win is career altering. This scenario played out a few weeks ago in Jackson vs Griffin, Jardine vs Liddell, or even Kimbo Slice vs James Thompson. To have everyone saying you are going to lose is the ultimate motivation to win. That is the factor that can make Tim Sylvia dangerous in this one. I'm picking Fedor to win, by armbar of course. But I haven't thrown Tim Sylvia to the dogs just yet. This fight echoes a recurring theme in a lot of recent MMA matches. The huge underdog vs the obvious favorite. The favorite with nothing to lose and the underdog with everything to gain. These matches are most dangerous for the guy at the top of the heap. With a loss, Fedor stands to lose his mystique as the best fighter in the world. With a win, Tim Sylvia catapaults himself into the stratosphere with a win over the best fighter in the world. A win for Fedor is just another win, a loss is career altering. Same on the opposite side for Sylvia. A loss is just a loss, but a win is career altering. This scenario played out a few weeks ago in Jackson vs Griffin, Jardine vs Liddell, or even Kimbo Slice vs James Thompson. To have everyone saying you are going to lose is the ultimate motivation to win. That is the factor that can make Tim Sylvia dangerous in this one. I’m picking Fedor to win, by armbar of course. But I haven’t thrown Tim Sylvia to the dogs just yet.

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]]> By: Fabricio http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39085 Fabricio Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:08:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39085 Remember this comment...........Bring it to my attention after the fact if I'm wrong. The Ring is ADVANTAGE SYLVIA, and anyone who says different is so wrong they need to rethink being a fan in the first place. While I'm not saying Tim will win. The ropes are such and incredible advantage for a guy his size that is as athletic as Tim ( I didn't say he was a great athlete, but he is IS athletic for his size) Fedor needs to keep this fight off the ropes. Pushing Tim in the clinch to the ropes will be a huge mistake, Tim's ass will go though the ropes, the ref will bring them to the middle of the ring and restart.............rinse repeat. A CAGE is to Fedor's advantage. If anyone is going to be Fedor, it's Tim........I don't see it happening, the only favorite to beat Fedor is Father Time. Remember this comment………..Bring it to my attention after the fact if I’m wrong.

The Ring is ADVANTAGE SYLVIA, and anyone who says different is so wrong they need to rethink being a fan in the first place.

While I’m not saying Tim will win. The ropes are such and incredible advantage for a guy his size that is as athletic as Tim ( I didn’t say he was a great athlete, but he is IS athletic for his size) Fedor needs to keep this fight off the ropes. Pushing Tim in the clinch to the ropes will be a huge mistake, Tim’s ass will go though the ropes, the ref will bring them to the middle of the ring and restart………….rinse repeat. A CAGE is to Fedor’s advantage.

If anyone is going to be Fedor, it’s Tim……..I don’t see it happening, the only favorite to beat Fedor is Father Time.

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]]> By: Joey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/comment-page-1/#comment-39084 Joey Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:07:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/15/trying-to-make-a-case-for-tim-sylvia/#comment-39084 Whenever he gets bored in the ring or tired of being punched, Fedor pulls armbars out of nowhere PERIOD Whenever he gets bored in the ring or tired of being punched, Fedor pulls armbars out of nowhere PERIOD

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