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	<title>Comments on: Jackson viewed upset UFC 86 loss to Griffin for first time day prior to arrest</title>
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		<title>By: DamonO</title>
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		<dc:creator>DamonO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10

Someone you know is either currently or someday will be “… teetering on an edge, waiting for a push . . .” Lookng for a reason to “go off”. 

Keep that in mind too.

#14 why does it have to be iced tea?  lol

#16 Yes and maybe he did give Forrest his purse as he said he would had the fight gone to decision, which it did.  I would lose it if I made that bet with someone and lost.</description>
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<p>Someone you know is either currently or someday will be “… teetering on an edge, waiting for a push . . .” Lookng for a reason to “go off”. </p>
<p>Keep that in mind too.</p>
<p>#14 why does it have to be iced tea?  lol</p>
<p>#16 Yes and maybe he did give Forrest his purse as he said he would had the fight gone to decision, which it did.  I would lose it if I made that bet with someone and lost.
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		<title>By: Kogepan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kogepan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toss some Japanese women at page, and he&#039;ll be back to his old self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toss some Japanese women at page, and he&#8217;ll be back to his old self.
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		<title>By: dohfil</title>
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		<dc:creator>dohfil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s a great sponsor!

Throwdown rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s a great sponsor!</p>
<p>Throwdown rocks.
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		<title>By: Ben Nguyen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Nguyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this is really secondary... the real question is, has Jackson&#039;s TRAINER retired?  He said he would, if Forrest win at UFC86... so its time to Put-up...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this is really secondary&#8230; the real question is, has Jackson&#8217;s TRAINER retired?  He said he would, if Forrest win at UFC86&#8230; so its time to Put-up&#8230;
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		<title>By: Rabbit Killer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabbit Killer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, he impulsively made a bad decision to flee in the first place then the situation snow-balled. He probably just freaked and said &quot; I&#039;m outta here&quot; kind of like fight or flight then he&#039;s thinking about how he just screwed up his whole life as he&#039;s being chased by a cop and just wanted out of the situation. Those actions transcend rationality and become impulsive. He didn&#039;t seem to give the cops any trouble. It really wasn&#039;t all that impressive of a rampage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, he impulsively made a bad decision to flee in the first place then the situation snow-balled. He probably just freaked and said &#8221; I&#8217;m outta here&#8221; kind of like fight or flight then he&#8217;s thinking about how he just screwed up his whole life as he&#8217;s being chased by a cop and just wanted out of the situation. Those actions transcend rationality and become impulsive. He didn&#8217;t seem to give the cops any trouble. It really wasn&#8217;t all that impressive of a rampage.
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		<title>By: JollyDV</title>
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		<dc:creator>JollyDV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think a persons mental or emotional strength can be gauged like a persons physical strength. It is not like they can lift a bar bell with weights attached to see how strong they are mentally. 

As far as anyone knows, someone could have spiked his ice tea with a hallucinagent and that is why he did what he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think a persons mental or emotional strength can be gauged like a persons physical strength. It is not like they can lift a bar bell with weights attached to see how strong they are mentally. </p>
<p>As far as anyone knows, someone could have spiked his ice tea with a hallucinagent and that is why he did what he did.
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 I think your mistake is in thinking these people are being rational at the time. That they are thinking &quot;If one more person cuts me off,  im gonna blow up and try to ram his car... and i&#039;ll probably get away scot-free cause this is so out of character for me&quot;. I seriously doubt that was the case with Page, anyway.

These trigger events for a lot of people aren&#039;t like that at all. The buildup that causes it isn&#039;t a rational process, and I don&#039;t think most people that snap are thinking as far ahead as the consequences because they are out of their skulls. 

And furthermore I don&#039;t think modern society goes lightly on these people, either. I&#039;ve seen little evidence that the standard of extenuating circumstances is ever-lowering... the US has a higher percentage of its population jailed than it ever has before, and more than any other country in the world. This is actually one of the worst countries to &quot;snap&quot; like Page did.

Your fear is understandable, but its not lack of consequences that makes people snap. It just happens to some people, at least all Page did was drive crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 I think your mistake is in thinking these people are being rational at the time. That they are thinking &#8220;If one more person cuts me off,  im gonna blow up and try to ram his car&#8230; and i&#8217;ll probably get away scot-free cause this is so out of character for me&#8221;. I seriously doubt that was the case with Page, anyway.</p>
<p>These trigger events for a lot of people aren&#8217;t like that at all. The buildup that causes it isn&#8217;t a rational process, and I don&#8217;t think most people that snap are thinking as far ahead as the consequences because they are out of their skulls. </p>
<p>And furthermore I don&#8217;t think modern society goes lightly on these people, either. I&#8217;ve seen little evidence that the standard of extenuating circumstances is ever-lowering&#8230; the US has a higher percentage of its population jailed than it ever has before, and more than any other country in the world. This is actually one of the worst countries to &#8220;snap&#8221; like Page did.</p>
<p>Your fear is understandable, but its not lack of consequences that makes people snap. It just happens to some people, at least all Page did was drive crazy.
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		<title>By: ACK!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACK!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant &quot;Don&#039;t judge people based on media reports.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant &#8220;Don&#8217;t judge people based on media reports.&#8221;
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		<title>By: ACK!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACK!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, this has nothing to do with excuses or anything like that.  

Like I said, I was just speculating on any possible contributing factors.  I&#039;m not going to presume to know anything about Rampage&#039;s mental state or what set him off.  Moreover, none of us know what demons he or anyone else in this world is dealing with beyond our own.  Are you saying that just because people go through worse things then Rampage we should just dismiss him as a despicable felon?

Don&#039;t judge peoples actions based on media reports, Guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, this has nothing to do with excuses or anything like that.  </p>
<p>Like I said, I was just speculating on any possible contributing factors.  I&#8217;m not going to presume to know anything about Rampage&#8217;s mental state or what set him off.  Moreover, none of us know what demons he or anyone else in this world is dealing with beyond our own.  Are you saying that just because people go through worse things then Rampage we should just dismiss him as a despicable felon?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t judge peoples actions based on media reports, Guy.
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		<title>By: Guy Gaduois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Gaduois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hex - I guess what scares me, and where I agree with your wording - &quot;... teetering on an edge, waiting for a push . . .&quot;  Lookng for  a reason to &quot;go off&quot;.  

I don&#039;t know how carefully you picked that phrase, but that&#039;s what alarms me is that my wife and kids go out everyday into a world with people whom I feel are just &quot;waiting for a push&quot;, or looking for a reason to go off - and have reasonable expectation that they will indeed be exonerated due to the ever lowering standard of &#039;extenuating circumstances&#039;.

Someday, someone I really love and care about will be endangered or even harmed by someone and there won&#039;t be justice, just excuses.  
That&#039;s a bad deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hex &#8211; I guess what scares me, and where I agree with your wording &#8211; &#8220;&#8230; teetering on an edge, waiting for a push . . .&#8221;  Lookng for  a reason to &#8220;go off&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how carefully you picked that phrase, but that&#8217;s what alarms me is that my wife and kids go out everyday into a world with people whom I feel are just &#8220;waiting for a push&#8221;, or looking for a reason to go off &#8211; and have reasonable expectation that they will indeed be exonerated due to the ever lowering standard of &#8216;extenuating circumstances&#8217;.</p>
<p>Someday, someone I really love and care about will be endangered or even harmed by someone and there won&#8217;t be justice, just excuses.<br />
That&#8217;s a bad deal.
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