Comments on: Who is the best pound for pound fighter in the world? http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 12:13:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: WickedServant http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-43863 WickedServant Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:25:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-43863 Top p4p fighter: Anderson Silva or Georges St. Pierre Top p4p fighter:

Anderson Silva or Georges St. Pierre

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]]> By: fedorisking http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40534 fedorisking Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:46:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40534 Easily Fedor. He has fought more top competition and I've never seen anyone beat him. I've seen Anderson Silva tap out like a bitch against mediocre Japanese wrestlers (Takase, Chonan etc.). Fedor has beaten all his opponents. It can even be argued that Fedor has never even lost a round outside of RINGS. Silva has lost many rounds, including the first round against Henderson. Fedor is on a 28 win streak. Silva is on a meager 10 win streak. Fedor consistently fights guys much bigger than himself while Silva usually has height and reach advantage in his fights. As for their most recent fight respectively, Fedor destroying a top 5 HW in 36 seconds was a lot more impressive than Silva destoying an unranked LHW in 61 seconds. It's not even a contest. Fedor is the most accomplished of the two and he's undefeated. Fedor is 6-0 against current or former UFC champions. How many big champions have Silva beaten? That's right. 28-0 > 22-3 Easily Fedor. He has fought more top competition and I’ve never seen anyone beat him. I’ve seen Anderson Silva tap out like a bitch against mediocre Japanese wrestlers (Takase, Chonan etc.). Fedor has beaten all his opponents. It can even be argued that Fedor has never even lost a round outside of RINGS. Silva has lost many rounds, including the first round against Henderson. Fedor is on a 28 win streak. Silva is on a meager 10 win streak. Fedor consistently fights guys much bigger than himself while Silva usually has height and reach advantage in his fights. As for their most recent fight respectively, Fedor destroying a top 5 HW in 36 seconds was a lot more impressive than Silva destoying an unranked LHW in 61 seconds. It’s not even a contest. Fedor is the most accomplished of the two and he’s undefeated. Fedor is 6-0 against current or former UFC champions. How many big champions have Silva beaten? That’s right.

28-0 > 22-3

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]]> By: Big T http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40496 Big T Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:33:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40496 Fedor V Silva @ 205lbs. Lets see it. I bet Fedor handles Silva in the first round. Fedor V Silva @ 205lbs.
Lets see it.
I bet Fedor handles Silva in the first round.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40476 HexRei Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:30:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40476 @#58 Wow, great argument. Go back to sherdog, troll. Thanks to all the people who already said everything back to romano that I was going to. @#58 Wow, great argument. Go back to sherdog, troll.

Thanks to all the people who already said everything back to romano that I was going to.

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]]> By: neorules http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40472 neorules Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:26:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40472 #9 you are a totally IDIOT .. How long have you been a fan of MMA ? There is no ? that Fedor has the fought the best competiton between the two .. Silly bitch .. #9 you are a totally IDIOT .. How long have you been a fan of MMA ?
There is no ? that Fedor has the fought the best competiton between the two .. Silly bitch ..

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]]> By: bk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40387 bk Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:47:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40387 the guy to beat emelianenko will be the first guy to put on his face - on multiple occasions - that look he had briefly against hong man choi when that first armbar didn't come off. In short, it will take someone who is not afraid to stand with him, has the chin to take whatever he can dish out, the ballsiness and self-confidence to really get after him wherever the fight may happen to go (Tim seemed to freeze in that fight saturday night), the hand-speed to match him in the exchanges, and nog-like technical skill on the ground. Give Big Nog world-class stand-up and world-class fast twitch muscles (and maybe an olympic-caliber wrestling pedigree) and you have the man who can beat Emelianenko. Of course, that beast hasn't emerged yet the guy to beat emelianenko will be the first guy to put on his face – on multiple occasions – that look he had briefly against hong man choi when that first armbar didn’t come off. In short, it will take someone who is not afraid to stand with him, has the chin to take whatever he can dish out, the ballsiness and self-confidence to really get after him wherever the fight may happen to go (Tim seemed to freeze in that fight saturday night), the hand-speed to match him in the exchanges, and nog-like technical skill on the ground.

Give Big Nog world-class stand-up and world-class fast twitch muscles (and maybe an olympic-caliber wrestling pedigree) and you have the man who can beat Emelianenko.

Of course, that beast hasn’t emerged yet

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]]> By: bk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40385 bk Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:39:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40385 this is a silly article; Emelianenko is so clearly the most dominant and destructive fighter in MMA; you'd have to be a TUF Noob or a lackey for the UFC to argue otherwise. Right now, there is not a heavyweight in the world who can challenge Emelianenko - and he's smaller than many of his foes, to boot (whereas silva cuts a lot of weight to get down to middle-weight and has the dimensions of someone who could easily fight one or even two weight classes above where he does habitually). Right now, Emelianenko is the one man in the world no one wants to fight on the street: he's super-skilled; he is diamond-tough; he's russian (which means he's a closet sadist); and he seems to have no fear (he went right after Timmy even though Silvia is a much bigger man and has heavy and effective hands). guy's a beast - even if I don't like him or his camp. this is a silly article; Emelianenko is so clearly the most dominant and destructive fighter in MMA; you’d have to be a TUF Noob or a lackey for the UFC to argue otherwise. Right now, there is not a heavyweight in the world who can challenge Emelianenko – and he’s smaller than many of his foes, to boot (whereas silva cuts a lot of weight to get down to middle-weight and has the dimensions of someone who could easily fight one or even two weight classes above where he does habitually).

Right now, Emelianenko is the one man in the world no one wants to fight on the street: he’s super-skilled; he is diamond-tough; he’s russian (which means he’s a closet sadist); and he seems to have no fear (he went right after Timmy even though Silvia is a much bigger man and has heavy and effective hands).

guy’s a beast – even if I don’t like him or his camp.

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]]> By: Danny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40339 Danny Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:17:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40339 #51 "arona, sobral, schilt, herring, big nog, coleman, randleman, big nog again, tk, crocop, hunt and now syvia" uh some of those guys were undersized heavies. crocop and big nog r the only 2 top heavies he faced in japan. he didnt finish either. sylvia, we all know, is terrible at sub defense. NOW. since anderson silva has been in the ufc, a lot of people have doubted him. when he 1st arrived it was so he could a CHALLENGER to franklins title, not someone who was sent to destroy him. majority of fans thought that ace had too much an all-around game 4 the spider. we all know what happend there. Lutter, big bjj master, wins the fight as soon as it hits the ground. yeah right. marquardt, good wrestler. 7 TIME KING OF PANCRASE with heavy hands. didnt happen. and my all time fave, HENDO! Mr. olympic credentials. now i went to go see this fight live and i cant tell u how awesome it was to see everyones face around me when hendo looked like he was about to swallow his tongue. priceless. now lets finally give silva some credit where its due. he's beaten everyone he was doubted to beat. and yes that includes irvin who people thought was gonna ko silva. i know alot of people will make excuses 4 the sandman but i will say this. silva is more than capable of destroying someone's face at 185 or 205. ask the sandman #51

“arona, sobral, schilt, herring, big nog, coleman, randleman, big nog again, tk, crocop, hunt and now syvia”

uh some of those guys were undersized heavies. crocop and big nog r the only 2 top heavies he faced in japan. he didnt finish either. sylvia, we all know, is terrible at sub defense.

NOW. since anderson silva has been in the ufc, a lot of people have doubted him. when he 1st arrived it was so he could a CHALLENGER to franklins title, not someone who was sent to destroy him. majority of fans thought that ace had too much an all-around game 4 the spider. we all know what happend there. Lutter, big bjj master, wins the fight as soon as it hits the ground. yeah right. marquardt, good wrestler. 7 TIME KING OF PANCRASE with heavy hands. didnt happen. and my all time fave, HENDO! Mr. olympic credentials. now i went to go see this fight live and i cant tell u how awesome it was to see everyones face around me when hendo looked like he was about to swallow his tongue. priceless.

now lets finally give silva some credit where its due. he’s beaten everyone he was doubted to beat. and yes that includes irvin who people thought was gonna ko silva. i know alot of people will make excuses 4 the sandman but i will say this. silva is more than capable of destroying someone’s face at 185 or 205. ask the sandman

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]]> By: Bruce http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40308 Bruce Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:10:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40308 Dana should swallow his pride, sign Fedor and have him beat the 'Nog-Couture winner then fight Anderson at a catch weight of 215 or something like that. That's really the only way to settle this argument. Dana should swallow his pride, sign Fedor and have him beat the ‘Nog-Couture winner then fight Anderson at a catch weight of 215 or something like that.

That’s really the only way to settle this argument.

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]]> By: homer http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40295 homer Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:10:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40295 Fedor is head and shoulders above anyone in the heavyweight division, however, that division is definitely the weakest. Randy Couture, who everyone seems to think is one of the best, is highly overrated. Yes, he beat Silvia and Gonzaga, but neither of them are very impressive. Couture couldn't even beat Liddell at 205. That's why he retired, then moved back up to heavyweight where the competition was weaker. As for Silvia, there is a reason why the UFC did not resign him. He sucks. Fedor is head and shoulders above anyone in the heavyweight division, however, that division is definitely the weakest. Randy Couture, who everyone seems to think is one of the best, is highly overrated. Yes, he beat Silvia and Gonzaga, but neither of them are very impressive. Couture couldn’t even beat Liddell at 205. That’s why he retired, then moved back up to heavyweight where the competition was weaker.
As for Silvia, there is a reason why the UFC did not resign him. He sucks.

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]]> By: Zack with a ck http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40281 Zack with a ck Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:18:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40281 Everybody Loves Raymond - you are on good crank. Big Nog and CroCop are the only impressive wins in recent history for Fedor. I think there's no doubt that "in potentiality" Fedor is the best fighter ever up to this point. But in actuality he's neither fought enough or had the level of comp he should to warrant p4p #1 status. Everybody Loves Raymond – you are on good crank. Big Nog and CroCop are the only impressive wins in recent history for Fedor.

I think there’s no doubt that “in potentiality” Fedor is the best fighter ever up to this point. But in actuality he’s neither fought enough or had the level of comp he should to warrant p4p #1 status.

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]]> By: romano http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40270 romano Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:34:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40270 hexrei fedor has fought six different japanese fighters...so no he wasn't fed a bunch of japanese cans...if you look at the guys that fedor fought, and can remember what there rankings were when he fought them, he has fought and defeated better fighters than sylvia...and you obviously don't pay attention....look at post 35 where i explain what p4p is all about as for Franklin, i simply debunked your argument about silva's level of competition...if level of competition were a reason for p4p to slip(which it isn't, ask ring magazine) then i say the only legit superstar silva has defeated is henderson due to the 185 weight class being thinner than an olsen twin. p4p is not a ranking based on whom you are fighting, but on saying who's the best fighter overall....if i were to wave my magic wand and make fedor and silva the same exact weight, who would win? that's a subjective argument for sure, but if we're going to have subjective arguments than at least use logic. Onto fedor's career, he has quite simply defeated every heavyweight that it made sense to fight and cleared out the deepest heavyweight division in mma history....you probably weren't watching back then since it predates griffin-bonnar, but while the japanese do have an affinity for freakshow matches, fedor also crammed in some of the best fighter's on the planet....and before i see another inaccurate list putting down those guys...coleman lost once (to big nog) following his grand prix victory and was younger (and still is younger) than Randy Couture is now....so legitimate wins that were impressive as hell when they happened in fedor's career looks like this. arona, sobral, schilt, herring, big nog, coleman, randleman, big nog again, tk, crocop, hunt and now syvia Silva's impressive as hell wins henderson hexrei

fedor has fought six different japanese fighters…so no he wasn’t fed a bunch of japanese cans…if you look at the guys that fedor fought, and can remember what there rankings were when he fought them, he has fought and defeated better fighters than sylvia…and you obviously don’t pay attention….look at post 35 where i explain what p4p is all about

as for Franklin, i simply debunked your argument about silva’s level of competition…if level of competition were a reason for p4p to slip(which it isn’t, ask ring magazine) then i say the only legit superstar silva has defeated is henderson due to the 185 weight class being thinner than an olsen twin. p4p is not a ranking based on whom you are fighting, but on saying who’s the best fighter overall….if i were to wave my magic wand and make fedor and silva the same exact weight, who would win? that’s a subjective argument for sure, but if we’re going to have subjective arguments than at least use logic.

Onto fedor’s career, he has quite simply defeated every heavyweight that it made sense to fight and cleared out the deepest heavyweight division in mma history….you probably weren’t watching back then since it predates griffin-bonnar, but while the japanese do have an affinity for freakshow matches, fedor also crammed in some of the best fighter’s on the planet….and before i see another inaccurate list putting down those guys…coleman lost once (to big nog) following his grand prix victory and was younger (and still is younger) than Randy Couture is now….so legitimate wins that were impressive as hell when they happened in fedor’s career looks like this.

arona, sobral, schilt, herring, big nog, coleman, randleman, big nog again, tk, crocop, hunt and now syvia

Silva’s impressive as hell wins

henderson

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40268 Rich S. Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:17:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40268 unfortunately, Tim DOES have a big record, and he HAS beaten plenty of formidable opponents.. but apparently there's alot of people that don't see what i see in him.. at some point Tim fell off.. we all know this.. he KO's Arlovski [which i feel was a semi-early stoppage from the ref] all of a sudden, decision, decision, decision, decision, decision, decision, loss.. I [and i know i will get bashed for this] Don't think Tim's a good striker.. sure he's lengthy, but does he use it?? not anymore. He used it on Monson [who is basically a few inches short of being a midget] Ok, but not really on anyone else.. i mean, he did the exact opposite in the Vera fight.. he actually closed the distance.. You can tell Tim's not the brightest guy.. he tries to be tactical, and use reach, but it doesn't work for him.. i mean, can you give me one time other than Monson? First fight with AA: he got rocked, he didn't do the rocking.. Fight with tra telligman: he just got a huge headkick in close to the end.. fight with Assuerio: he actually closed the distance, rather than using it to his advantage.. fight with AA #2: the punch that AA was short, and on the inside, he didn't use reach.. fight with AA #3: in this one, he tried to fight on the outside a little more, but AA was still successful in getting inside and landing devistating body shots, they just weren't finishers.. etc etc etc.. it almost seems like Tim should revert to his old days, as a slugger [where he held victories of Ricco, Gan McGee, Cabbage, etc..] to sum it up: i don't think Tim's good anymore.. therefore, i don't see why Fedor's immediately jumped into the possible #1 p4p spot, rather than always being there but obviously, there's plenty of people who thought Tim would pose huge prob's for Fedor soooo... [i'm happy for him, and i've always thought he owned a spot at the top, but, i'd still put Spider at #1] unfortunately,
Tim DOES have a big record, and he HAS beaten plenty of formidable opponents.. but apparently there’s alot of people that don’t see what i see in him..

at some point Tim fell off.. we all know this.. he KO’s Arlovski [which i feel was a semi-early stoppage from the ref] all of a sudden, decision, decision, decision, decision, decision, decision, loss..

I [and i know i will get bashed for this] Don’t think Tim’s a good striker..
sure he’s lengthy, but does he use it?? not anymore. He used it on Monson [who is basically a few inches short of being a midget] Ok, but not really on anyone else.. i mean, he did the exact opposite in the Vera fight.. he actually closed the distance..

You can tell Tim’s not the brightest guy.. he tries to be tactical, and use reach, but it doesn’t work for him.. i mean, can you give me one time other than Monson? First fight with AA: he got rocked, he didn’t do the rocking.. Fight with tra telligman: he just got a huge headkick in close to the end.. fight with Assuerio: he actually closed the distance, rather than using it to his advantage.. fight with AA #2: the punch that AA was short, and on the inside, he didn’t use reach.. fight with AA #3: in this one, he tried to fight on the outside a little more, but AA was still successful in getting inside and landing devistating body shots, they just weren’t finishers.. etc etc etc..

it almost seems like Tim should revert to his old days, as a slugger [where he held victories of Ricco, Gan McGee, Cabbage, etc..]

to sum it up:
i don’t think Tim’s good anymore..
therefore, i don’t see why Fedor’s immediately jumped into the possible #1 p4p spot, rather than always being there

but obviously, there’s plenty of people who thought Tim would pose huge prob’s for Fedor soooo…

[i'm happy for him, and i've always thought he owned a spot at the top, but, i'd still put Spider at #1]

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]]> By: Are you having a laugh?. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40267 Are you having a laugh?. Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:48:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40267 # 47 Some of us always thought he was the best and now have a chance to back it up with evidence . Tim has always had a weakness? well who dosn't? but he is a 2 time UFC champ who has wins over a lot of good fighters and was dominating nog before he got caught, I thought that this was going to be Fedors hardest challenge to date, considerining Tims size and power, so don't pretend that beating Tim Sylvia in the way he did means nothing Rich, it's a huge whats up now to all doubters of who really is the best fighter in the world. # 47 Some of us always thought he was the best and now have a chance to back it up with evidence . Tim has always had a weakness? well who dosn’t? but he is a 2 time UFC champ who has wins over a lot of good fighters and was dominating nog before he got caught, I thought that this was going to be Fedors hardest challenge to date, considerining Tims size and power, so don’t pretend that beating Tim Sylvia in the way he did means nothing Rich, it’s a huge whats up now to all doubters of who really is the best fighter in the world.

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]]> By: Guy Gaduois http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40266 Guy Gaduois Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:42:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40266 I think HexRei and KingJames 13 consistently make great posts. I hate the idea of 'pound for pound' because it's realistically inarguable - I like the weight class delineation as it makes for much better argumentation. Until you have multiple belts/titles/unification matches. I'm looking at you, boxing. Fedor and Anderson both have a killer instinct, a 'finisher's pedigree'; they are the most opportunistic fighters in the sport, and after watching B.J. Penn's incredibly striking performance against Sherk, he is right in that mix as well. But Anderson and Fedor are unparalleled as "fight finishers". Other fighters are good at grinding and pressing their game plan; Fedor and Anderson take the slightest crease in the armor and make their opponent look silly and sleepy. And it isn't an 'overnight success' story for either Fedor or Anderson; they've been honing their game and becoming more and more precise in their demolition. They are crafty, quick, concise and they annhilate in a beat. I marvel at how much better they will get - especially if we're still awaiting their peak performances. Scariest fighters in MMA. I think HexRei and KingJames 13 consistently make great posts.

I hate the idea of ‘pound for pound’ because it’s realistically inarguable – I like the weight class delineation as it makes for much better argumentation. Until you have multiple belts/titles/unification matches. I’m looking at you, boxing.

Fedor and Anderson both have a killer instinct, a ‘finisher’s pedigree’; they are the most opportunistic fighters in the sport, and after watching B.J. Penn’s incredibly striking performance against Sherk, he is right in that mix as well. But Anderson and Fedor are unparalleled as “fight finishers”. Other fighters are good at grinding and pressing their game plan; Fedor and Anderson take the slightest crease in the armor and make their opponent look silly and sleepy.

And it isn’t an ‘overnight success’ story for either Fedor or Anderson; they’ve been honing their game and becoming more and more precise in their demolition. They are crafty, quick, concise and they annhilate in a beat. I marvel at how much better they will get – especially if we’re still awaiting their peak performances.

Scariest fighters in MMA.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40263 Rich S. Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:33:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40263 there's one thing i still don't get here.. a few months ago the contest was between GSP and A. Silva.. i mean, why is it that one fight opened your eyes to Fedor? i mean, nothing's changed. why wasn't he considered the best a few months ago? [i know: someone will say inactivity, but that's bogus] i mean, it goes from Fedor not even being considered.. to ever person on the site saying he'd crush Anderson... Why? Just Because he beat Tim Sylvia? or because he beat him fast? i mean, since when is Big Tim the gatekeeper for P4P RANKINGS?? Tim's always had a weakness [his chin, and ability to crumble under pressure].. it's just that AA, Randy, and Fedor are the only ones to expose it.. i just can't believe it went from "Who's Fedor fought lately?" to "Fedor's the best, period." overnight.. it's ridiculous.. there’s one thing i still don’t get here..

a few months ago the contest was between GSP and A. Silva..

i mean, why is it that one fight opened your eyes to Fedor?

i mean, nothing’s changed.

why wasn’t he considered the best a few months ago? [i know: someone will say inactivity, but that's bogus]

i mean, it goes from Fedor not even being considered.. to ever person on the site saying he’d crush Anderson…

Why?

Just Because he beat Tim Sylvia? or because he beat him fast?

i mean, since when is Big Tim the gatekeeper for P4P RANKINGS??

Tim’s always had a weakness [his chin, and ability to crumble under pressure].. it’s just that AA, Randy, and Fedor are the only ones to expose it..

i just can’t believe it went from “Who’s Fedor fought lately?” to “Fedor’s the best, period.” overnight..

it’s ridiculous..

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]]> By: Are you having a laugh?. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40259 Are you having a laugh?. Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:11:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40259 I'm sick of this p4p stuff! PART OF WHAT MAKES A FIGHTER GOOD IS SIZE!!!! so why try and take that away from a fighter and compare him to a FW, MW or any other size. Put Silva in there with Fedor and I be betting that Fedor would man-handle him right?. P4p is a joke taking away size to compare is always going to benifit lower weights so perhaps when doing so you should take away the lower weights speed or maybe thier tech ability. It's dumb cuz Fedor is the best fighter partly cuz of his size and strength. So Anerson Silva or Faber can beat anyone in the weight class THEY CUT WEIGHT TO GET TO!!!! but Fedor can beat anyone! I’m sick of this p4p stuff! PART OF WHAT MAKES A FIGHTER GOOD IS SIZE!!!! so why try and take that away from a fighter and compare him to a FW, MW or any other size. Put Silva in there with Fedor and I be betting that Fedor would man-handle him right?. P4p is a joke taking away size to compare is always going to benifit lower weights so perhaps when doing so you should take away the lower weights speed or maybe thier tech ability. It’s dumb cuz Fedor is the best fighter partly cuz of his size and strength.
So Anerson Silva or Faber can beat anyone in the weight class THEY CUT WEIGHT TO GET TO!!!! but Fedor can beat anyone!

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40257 Evan Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:01:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40257 HexRei...I love BSG also. hahha....can't wait for the second part of the series finale. HexRei…I love BSG also. hahha….can’t wait for the second part of the series finale.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40254 HexRei Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:45:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40254 aw phrack. last @ 39, not 9. aw phrack. last @ 39, not 9.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40250 HexRei Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:33:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/20/who-is-the-best-pound-for-pound-fighter-in-the-world/#comment-40250 @#9 I'm sorry, but no one was making a case for Rich Franklin as P4P greatest, it was Silva. Rich defeated a bunch of tough guys, I never said he defeated anyone great, but the point is that Rich put them down handily and then Silva put Rich down handily. Twice. If you want to play the one removed game, lots of Fedor's opponents were nobodies, too. He was fed japanese cans because it made the japanese public happy. Only a handful of his opponents were all that good, most were UFC washouts or freakshows matched only because of the size differences. He does have some strong wins. So does Silva. Fedor definitely has better record overall, but this is current P4P ranking, not looking back on all time history P4P ranking. @#9 I’m sorry, but no one was making a case for Rich Franklin as P4P greatest, it was Silva. Rich defeated a bunch of tough guys, I never said he defeated anyone great, but the point is that Rich put them down handily and then Silva put Rich down handily. Twice.

If you want to play the one removed game, lots of Fedor’s opponents were nobodies, too. He was fed japanese cans because it made the japanese public happy. Only a handful of his opponents were all that good, most were UFC washouts or freakshows matched only because of the size differences. He does have some strong wins. So does Silva. Fedor definitely has better record overall, but this is current P4P ranking, not looking back on all time history P4P ranking.

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