Comments on: DREAM.5: Joachim Hansen wins Lightweight Grand Prix in Japan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 12:13:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: qwqwd http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40774 qwqwd Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:12:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40774 hansen is so awesome! but he is so small for 160. he should drop down to 145. i actually think he is top 10 p4p. hansen is so awesome! but he is so small for 160. he should drop down to 145. i actually think he is top 10 p4p.

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]]> By: Michael http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40714 Michael Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:16:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40714 @Zack with a ck "to be fair, there were some terribly terribly boring fights on the DREAM card…pretty much all the japanese vs japanese fights." Thats like saying there are to many American vs American on UFC cards. If you think it was boring, do us a favor and don't watch DREAM and don't comment on it. @Zack with a ck
“to be fair, there were some terribly terribly boring fights on the DREAM card…pretty much all the japanese vs japanese fights.”

Thats like saying there are to many American vs American on UFC cards. If you think it was boring, do us a favor and don’t watch DREAM and don’t comment on it.

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]]> By: Toxic http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40580 Toxic Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:52:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40580 Aoki vs. Uno was an amazing fight to me. That was some amazing defensive work from Uno and some amazing sub work from Aoki. I do wonder why the Japanese fighters tend to fail when put against foreign competitors; the only thing I can think of is most of them look like they could be fighting a couple of weight classes down if they cut weight as effectively as UFC fighters. Also, did Overeem gain a ton of weight or am I confusing him with his brother? Aoki vs. Uno was an amazing fight to me. That was some amazing defensive work from Uno and some amazing sub work from Aoki.

I do wonder why the Japanese fighters tend to fail when put against foreign competitors; the only thing I can think of is most of them look like they could be fighting a couple of weight classes down if they cut weight as effectively as UFC fighters.

Also, did Overeem gain a ton of weight or am I confusing him with his brother?

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]]> By: Zack with a ck http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40521 Zack with a ck Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:38:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40521 to be fair, there were some terribly terribly boring fights on the DREAM card...pretty much all the japanese vs japanese fights. to be fair, there were some terribly terribly boring fights on the DREAM card…pretty much all the japanese vs japanese fights.

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]]> By: spike1244 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40519 spike1244 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:27:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40519 Aoki fucing suck i hope people finally see that Aoki fucing suck i hope people finally see that

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]]> By: Zack with a ck http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40501 Zack with a ck Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:40:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40501 yep, while the majority of fanboys whine about Affliction vs the UFC I'll just quietly watch DREAMS and the WEC put on the best cards... yep, while the majority of fanboys whine about Affliction vs the UFC I’ll just quietly watch DREAMS and the WEC put on the best cards…

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]]> By: Neil http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40495 Neil Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:32:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40495 I'm calling it right now... show of the year. Fantastic ground work, amazing striking, and OMG what a plot twist with Alvarez getting pulled from the grand prix!! Hansen's win, at least to me, was just short of absolutely epic. I honestly hope that people have Alvarez and Hansen on their top-10 lists now. I’m calling it right now… show of the year. Fantastic ground work, amazing striking, and OMG what a plot twist with Alvarez getting pulled from the grand prix!! Hansen’s win, at least to me, was just short of absolutely epic. I honestly hope that people have Alvarez and Hansen on their top-10 lists now.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40481 Rich S. Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:49:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40481 you know, i was rootin' for hellboy from the beginning.. but, seeing as how he originally lost.. i'm not so happy he won the whole thing.. it just seems wrong, you know? because, these guys went the whole way without losing.. and then, Eddie isn't passed to compete, and Aoki gets beat up because he's tired and energy-drained.. it just seems like they were both robbed.. but, I AM glad they picked him.. beacuse, just like everyone else, there's no one i'd rather see take Eddie's spot than Joachim.. you know, i was rootin’ for hellboy from the beginning..

but, seeing as how he originally lost.. i’m not so happy he won the whole thing..

it just seems wrong, you know? because, these guys went the whole way without losing.. and then, Eddie isn’t passed to compete, and Aoki gets beat up because he’s tired and energy-drained..

it just seems like they were both robbed..

but, I AM glad they picked him.. beacuse, just like everyone else, there’s no one i’d rather see take Eddie’s spot than Joachim..

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]]> By: mo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40451 mo Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:55:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40451 yes, definately a great event, and possibly could be better then the UFC or affliction shows. certainly had exciting fights. Sam, i know you had a post months ago about possibly putting Alvarez in your top 10 LW's, i would hav to think there isn't any question now. I guess the only question is how high do you want to put him. you have to think Aoki would have had trouble with Alvarez as well. yes, definately a great event, and possibly could be better then the UFC or affliction shows. certainly had exciting fights. Sam, i know you had a post months ago about possibly putting Alvarez in your top 10 LW’s, i would hav to think there isn’t any question now. I guess the only question is how high do you want to put him. you have to think Aoki would have had trouble with Alvarez as well.

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]]> By: doubleA-ron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40438 doubleA-ron Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:26:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40438 This event was awesome, just wish that they would have let him go on. He said he was able to fight himself. Man that Alvarez is a great fighter and world class as a person also. I beleive he owns the top two fights of the year nominations with the fight he had in this and also aginst hell boy hansen in dream 4 This event was awesome, just wish that they would have let him go on. He said he was able to fight himself. Man that Alvarez is a great fighter and world class as a person also. I beleive he owns the top two fights of the year nominations with the fight he had in this and also aginst hell boy hansen in dream 4

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]]> By: DocWagner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40424 DocWagner Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:43:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40424 My bet is that NYE will produce some epic DREAM matchups, including belt defenses and Fedor My bet is that NYE will produce some epic DREAM matchups, including belt defenses and Fedor

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]]> By: cheapshot http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40390 cheapshot Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40390 Good to see a lightweight with genuine knockout power. #4: If Aoki fans want an excuse then how about he had Hellboy on his back, Hellboy up-kicks him in the balls (fairly blatant that, its not too close to the face now is it?) and when they resume theyre both standing which is an obvious advantage to Hellboy. I fairly sure we can all agree that there'll be some mint lightweight match ups in upcoming dream events. long live pride. Good to see a lightweight with genuine knockout power.

#4: If Aoki fans want an excuse then how about he had Hellboy on his back, Hellboy up-kicks him in the balls (fairly blatant that, its not too close to the face now is it?) and when they resume theyre both standing which is an obvious advantage to Hellboy.

I fairly sure we can all agree that there’ll be some mint lightweight match ups in upcoming dream events. long live pride.

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]]> By: Goldfinger http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40372 Goldfinger Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:57:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40372 Thanks for the outcomes! Hansen is a tough fighter. Thanks for the outcomes! Hansen is a tough fighter.

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]]> By: platypus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40370 platypus Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:50:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40370 ah...saw the event results on sherdog, shinya lost in the final, if you downloaded the fights out of order its probably really confusing as to who actually won the GP ah…saw the event results on sherdog, shinya lost in the final, if you downloaded the fights out of order its probably really confusing as to who actually won the GP

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]]> By: Sergio G. Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40369 Sergio G. Hernandez Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:50:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40369 "JZ is first in line to challenge Hansen if he recovers fast enough because he was the HERO’s LW champ" Yeah, not Alvarez who won his semi-final match only to bow out to injury so a fighter he has already beaten can advance and win the tournament. “JZ is first in line to challenge Hansen if he recovers fast enough because he was the HERO’s LW champ”

Yeah, not Alvarez who won his semi-final match only to bow out to injury so a fighter he has already beaten can advance and win the tournament.

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]]> By: romano http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40368 romano Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:49:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40368 as fans we all put a huge emphasis on a fighter's ability to win tourneys and grand prix...just because your favorite fighter didn't win does not mean that the grand prix system is bad...it just means that your favorite fighter didn't have what it takes to go all the way.... as fans we all put a huge emphasis on a fighter’s ability to win tourneys and grand prix…just because your favorite fighter didn’t win does not mean that the grand prix system is bad…it just means that your favorite fighter didn’t have what it takes to go all the way….

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]]> By: DocWagner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40367 DocWagner Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:41:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40367 That is how the tournament works, the alternate will fight. But I do understand your point, that is simply the rules in Japan. That is how the tournament works, the alternate will fight. But I do understand your point, that is simply the rules in Japan.

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]]> By: truth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40366 truth Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:38:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40366 "JZ is basically a better version of Alvarez" except Alvarez has better footwork and is more explosive. “JZ is basically a better version of Alvarez” except Alvarez has better footwork and is more explosive.

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]]> By: platypus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40354 platypus Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:05:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40354 what??? so who ended up winning?..i will download the event tonight, cant believe i spoiled it for myself. my question is, since aoki won and eddie won, and eddie couldnt continue, why didnt the first chance be given to kawajiri, the guy eddie defeated?..him being japanese and all couldnt hurt. this is what happened in the GP that misaki won, since filho couldnt continue. are the rules different than in pride GPs ?...i wouldve liked to see kawajiri vs aoki more..since to me kawajiri seemed like the deserved the shot more because he got further in the GP. what???

so who ended up winning?..i will download the event tonight, cant believe i spoiled it for myself.

my question is, since aoki won and eddie won, and eddie couldnt continue, why didnt the first chance be given to kawajiri, the guy eddie defeated?..him being japanese and all couldnt hurt. this is what happened in the GP that misaki won, since filho couldnt continue.

are the rules different than in pride GPs ?…i wouldve liked to see kawajiri vs aoki more..since to me kawajiri seemed like the deserved the shot more because he got further in the GP.

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]]> By: Suresh0t http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-40344 Suresh0t Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:37:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/dream5-results-and-brief-recap/#comment-40344 People seem to forget Aoki gogoplata submission on Hansen in Pride. Hansen fought a 3 minute fight when Aoki won a decision vs Uno which you know had to take a ton of energy to win. They should have done away with the 2 fights a night thing a long time ago and this is why. You have 1 of the finalists that can't go on because of a cut, then you have 1 who had a quick win vs one who had a grinded out victory. Still good fights and it's not really an excuse because they knew the system, but I still think Aoki typically beats Hansen (and I'm a fan of both). I would rather see a Aoki vs Alvarez winner faces Hansen. For people who think Alvarez would wreck Aoki like the guy above, they must have forgotten the JZ fight...and JZ is basically a better version of Alvarez. It would be a good fight and it could go either way with Alvarez's punching power and Aoki's slick subs. People seem to forget Aoki gogoplata submission on Hansen in Pride. Hansen fought a 3 minute fight when Aoki won a decision vs Uno which you know had to take a ton of energy to win. They should have done away with the 2 fights a night thing a long time ago and this is why. You have 1 of the finalists that can’t go on because of a cut, then you have 1 who had a quick win vs one who had a grinded out victory. Still good fights and it’s not really an excuse because they knew the system, but I still think Aoki typically beats Hansen (and I’m a fan of both). I would rather see a Aoki vs Alvarez winner faces Hansen.

For people who think Alvarez would wreck Aoki like the guy above, they must have forgotten the JZ fight…and JZ is basically a better version of Alvarez. It would be a good fight and it could go either way with Alvarez’s punching power and Aoki’s slick subs.

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