Comments on: UFN 14 or Affliction: BANNED, which was better? http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:59:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: ctownhood http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40824 ctownhood Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:38:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40824 On the strength of the final 3 fights (Barnett - Rizzo, Arlovski-Rothwell, Fedor-Sylvia). I'd say the Affliction card was better. But, the UFC churns out quality events 12-15 times a year. I don't think Affliction will make it past 4 events. On the strength of the final 3 fights (Barnett - Rizzo, Arlovski-Rothwell, Fedor-Sylvia). I’d say the Affliction card was better. But, the UFC churns out quality events 12-15 times a year. I don’t think Affliction will make it past 4 events.

]]> By: islandguy666 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40710 islandguy666 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:40:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40710 I skipped back and forth and it worked out pretty well. I got to see all the important moments in the Arlovski fight. Flipped over to catch the Silva fight then back to see the end of the Arlovski. Then caught the Fedor - Sylvia massacre. That was pretty well everything I wanted to see. I love the new Arlovski (or is that the old Arlovski??), I hate the new Brandon Vera. And Time looked like.. well just Tim. Didn't he used to have more than one punch? I think he used to kick too, no? I skipped back and forth and it worked out pretty well. I got to see all the important moments in the Arlovski fight. Flipped over to catch the Silva fight then back to see the end of the Arlovski. Then caught the Fedor - Sylvia massacre. That was pretty well everything I wanted to see.

I love the new Arlovski (or is that the old Arlovski??), I hate the new Brandon Vera. And Time looked like.. well just Tim. Didn’t he used to have more than one punch? I think he used to kick too, no?

]]> By: Sergio G. Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40654 Sergio G. Hernandez Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:57:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40654 "it was filled with HEAVYWEIGHTs, which has proved time and time again to be the weight class fans want to see (including this fan)." Is that why the highest grossing MMA events are headlined by any other weight class BESIDES heavyweight? “it was filled with HEAVYWEIGHTs, which has proved time and time again to be the weight class fans want to see (including this fan).”

Is that why the highest grossing MMA events are headlined by any other weight class BESIDES heavyweight?

]]> By: Neil http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40498 Neil Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:34:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40498 Lots of love for the UFC, but I think #32 has it spot on. Dream delivered with a near-perfect card, and even though the production quality hurt Affliction, it brought back star power that hasn't been seen state-side in a long time. Lots of love for the UFC, but I think #32 has it spot on. Dream delivered with a near-perfect card, and even though the production quality hurt Affliction, it brought back star power that hasn’t been seen state-side in a long time.

]]> By: eichoro http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40497 eichoro Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:33:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40497 Everyone who voted for the UFN must be on crack. Yeah, in terms of production, Affliction was definitely sub-par, but at the same time, it still had a very Affliction-like feel to it (with the death metal and the red lighting). The Affliction event had better talent, better fights, highlight-reel finishes in it's last three fights, and it was filled with HEAVYWEIGHTs, which has proved time and time again to be the weight class fans want to see (including this fan). Meanwhile, the UFN was loaded with second-tier talent, barring Vera and Silva, and both of those guys fought a bunch of chumps. The outcome of the Silva fight HAD NO RELEVANCE either. It was just a "let's see if Anderson Silva can fight at 205" type thing. Great, he can fight at 205. Now what? He's gonna go back to middleweight. I really hope the Affliction event succeeds. Just its willingness to go out and get heavyweight fighters is all I need, since the UFC thinks that heavyweights are unimportant. (We all know where Randy Couture wants to go after his little court case is over.) Everyone who voted for the UFN must be on crack. Yeah, in terms of production, Affliction was definitely sub-par, but at the same time, it still had a very Affliction-like feel to it (with the death metal and the red lighting).

The Affliction event had better talent, better fights, highlight-reel finishes in it’s last three fights, and it was filled with HEAVYWEIGHTs, which has proved time and time again to be the weight class fans want to see (including this fan). Meanwhile, the UFN was loaded with second-tier talent, barring Vera and Silva, and both of those guys fought a bunch of chumps. The outcome of the Silva fight HAD NO RELEVANCE either. It was just a “let’s see if Anderson Silva can fight at 205″ type thing. Great, he can fight at 205. Now what? He’s gonna go back to middleweight.

I really hope the Affliction event succeeds. Just its willingness to go out and get heavyweight fighters is all I need, since the UFC thinks that heavyweights are unimportant. (We all know where Randy Couture wants to go after his little court case is over.)

]]> By: Rex http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40489 Rex Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:22:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40489 1. Dream 2. Affliction 3. UFC 1. Dream
2. Affliction
3. UFC

]]> By: Dan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40482 Dan Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:16:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40482 I watched UFN and caught the Affliction fights on the web today. I can do without Megadeth or any other rock/rap artist performing at MMA shows. Stinks of a circus act. The fight quality was fairly even. You can't say none of the UFN fights had any meaning. Franca-Edgar went a long way to establishing the LW landscape. After Velasquez's destruction of O'Brien, I'm sure his next fight will have a lot more significance. Production-wise, there was no contest. UFC production is always top-notch and EliteXC/Affliction could learn a lot. People say that Affliction "pays fighters what they deserve" but we'll see how far in the hole they will be after a few shows. Remember, the UFC racked up $44 million in debt before they started turning a profit, and I'm sure they were paying the fighters nowhere near what they're making now. I watched UFN and caught the Affliction fights on the web today. I can do without Megadeth or any other rock/rap artist performing at MMA shows. Stinks of a circus act. The fight quality was fairly even. You can’t say none of the UFN fights had any meaning. Franca-Edgar went a long way to establishing the LW landscape. After Velasquez’s destruction of O’Brien, I’m sure his next fight will have a lot more significance. Production-wise, there was no contest. UFC production is always top-notch and EliteXC/Affliction could learn a lot.

People say that Affliction “pays fighters what they deserve” but we’ll see how far in the hole they will be after a few shows. Remember, the UFC racked up $44 million in debt before they started turning a profit, and I’m sure they were paying the fighters nowhere near what they’re making now.

]]> By: neorules http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40470 neorules Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:18:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40470 you people who bash the other org cards should be shot ... Its friggin MMA ... Dont buy the ppv if you dont choose too, and stop your silly bitchin. If your a fan, it doesnt matter what the org is .. Just Appreciate the sport and its progress. So for the people who are comparing the Affliction show vs the UFN .. Do us all a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP !!! Stay in your moms basement and look at your dads old porno mags .. you people who bash the other org cards should be shot …
Its friggin MMA … Dont buy the ppv if you dont choose too, and stop your
silly bitchin. If your a fan, it doesnt matter what the org is .. Just Appreciate
the sport and its progress. So for the people who are comparing the Affliction show vs the UFN .. Do us all a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!
Stay in your moms basement and look at your dads old porno mags ..

]]> By: ACK! http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40462 ACK! Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:36:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40462 I watched Affliction on PPV first and then caught the re-air of UFN 14 on Spike. And, overall, I thought Affliction's card was much, much better. I just couldn't get into most of the fights on UFN 14. I was psyched to see Markham's UFC debut and Velasquez vs. O' Brien, but the other fights held little significance to me personally. Even the main event was a pretty piss-poor excuse to manufacture another sick Silva knockout for the next Ultimate Knockout DVD... Affliction, on the other hand, was a refreshing change of pace even with it's production warts. Basically every fight other than the terrible Buentello fight (granted it was setup at the last second) kept my interest if for no other reason than to see the guys I grew up idolizing back in action. Belfort, Babalu, Barnett, and even Rizzo all looked like they have plenty of great fights left in them and Arvlovski and Fedor both appear to be world-class fighters in their prime. As a bonus, Pyle and Hominick put on good shows as well. Particularly Hominick, who looked impressive against Young and might be ready to make a statement at 145... I could go on, but in the end I care about great fights and Affliction has shown a willingness to pay give fighters the contracts they deserve to put together stacked cards that have real meaning to MMA fans. Unfortunately, the UFC couldn't appear more opposite than they did with UFN 14... I watched Affliction on PPV first and then caught the re-air of UFN 14 on Spike.

And, overall, I thought Affliction’s card was much, much better. I just couldn’t get into most of the fights on UFN 14. I was psyched to see Markham’s UFC debut and Velasquez vs. O’ Brien, but the other fights held little significance to me personally. Even the main event was a pretty piss-poor excuse to manufacture another sick Silva knockout for the next Ultimate Knockout DVD…

Affliction, on the other hand, was a refreshing change of pace even with it’s production warts. Basically every fight other than the terrible Buentello fight (granted it was setup at the last second) kept my interest if for no other reason than to see the guys I grew up idolizing back in action. Belfort, Babalu, Barnett, and even Rizzo all looked like they have plenty of great fights left in them and Arvlovski and Fedor both appear to be world-class fighters in their prime. As a bonus, Pyle and Hominick put on good shows as well. Particularly Hominick, who looked impressive against Young and might be ready to make a statement at 145…

I could go on, but in the end I care about great fights and Affliction has shown a willingness to pay give fighters the contracts they deserve to put together stacked cards that have real meaning to MMA fans. Unfortunately, the UFC couldn’t appear more opposite than they did with UFN 14…

]]> By: bubbafat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40460 bubbafat Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:15:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/21/ufn-14-or-affliction-banned-which-was-better/#comment-40460 Bottom line, production aside, I got to see 6 top ten HW's in exciting fights and some descent prelim and undercard fights for less than what the UFC charges me(PPV). I don't feel guilty about recording the UFC and watching it later at all. No complaints outta me at all, I got almost 10 hrs of gr A MMA on TV, and 2 hrs of Dream5 on the internet this weekend. I'm still wired from it all. Bottom line, production aside, I got to see 6 top ten HW’s in exciting fights and some descent prelim and undercard fights for less than what the UFC charges me(PPV). I don’t feel guilty about recording the UFC and watching it later at all. No complaints outta me at all, I got almost 10 hrs of gr A MMA on TV, and 2 hrs of Dream5 on the internet this weekend. I’m still wired from it all.

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