5 Oz. of Pain releases updated rankings: Anderson Silva new top pound-for-pound fighter

anderson_thespider_silva_thumb.jpgFiveOuncesOfPain.com has updated its rankings. With three major events held over the weekend (UFN 14, Affliction: Banned, and DREAM.5), there was cause for significant movement in almost every weight class.

Below is our new top-ten pound-for-pound list. And after Anderson Silva’s dominant win in a new weight class, I felt compelled to move him to the top of my list.

After the top-ten list, you will find a summary of changes made to the top-ten rankings in each individual weight class. To see the rankings in their entirety, just click here.

5 Oz. Top 10 Pound-for-Pound:

  1. Anderson Silva - I’ve been impressed with Anderson Silva before he ever set foot in the UFC. However, I didn’t have him ranked as my top pound-for-pound fighter until now. He’s dominated the middle class and showed at UFC Fight Night 14 that he’s also a threat at light heavyweight as well. He not only beat James Irvin, he did it with one punch in 61 seconds. While his wrestling game might not be the best, aside from Travis Lutter, who has been able to expose it?
  2. Fedor Emelianenko - Based on pure fighting ability, a case could be made that Fedor belongs at number one. Is there a human being a live that can take him? The complaint against Fedor was that he wasn’t fighting top contenders. Well, he makes a huge jump in the 5 Oz. pound-for-pound rankings because he posted a dominant victory at Affliction: Banned against a top ten heavyweight in Tim Sylvia in just 36 seconds.
  3. Georges St. Pierre – Due to no fault of his own, he drops. I just couldn’t find a reason to keep him ranked ahead of Fedor and Silva following their outstanding performances. If St. Pierre can up the stakes and defeat Jon Fitch in dominant fashion, it could provide reason to move him back up the rankings.
  4. B.J. Penn – He is an amazing pure fighter and he’s fighting frequently again and dominating the way he’s supposed to. Wins over Jens Pulver, Joe Stevenson, and Sean Sherk are all considered quality victories. He has the ability and he once again has the credentials.
  5. Urijah Faber - The complaint that Faber wasn’t beating the top fighters in his class is no longer valid following back-to-back wins over Jeff Curran and Jens Pulver. Pulver took Faber the distance, but that’s more a testament to Pulver’s ability than a knock against Faber. Faber looked great in that fight and showed his striking prowess is beginning to rival his ability on the ground.
  6. Miguel Torres - Torres is the most underrated fighter in MMA and made a huge jump in my top 10 following his amazing win over Yoshiro Maeda. Torres’ grappling ability is world class but his striking also is world class as well. How do you gameplan for a fighter that is world class in every possible area a fight can go? I don’t think there is anyone at 135 pounds that can touch this guy right now.
  7. Randy Couture - I had no choice but to move him down. Yes, he’s much better than the seventh-ranked best fighter in the world, but it’s almost been a year since his last fight. The longer he stays away, the harder it becomes to justify a top ten ranking.
  8. Forrest Griffin - This may seem like an awkward spot for Griffin considering he doesn’t have the dynamic abilities normally reserved for top ten pound-for-pound fighters. He’s not a jiu-jitsu savant; not a world class striker; nor is he an accomplished wrestler. Griffin is simply good at fighting. He is world class when it comes to intangibles; few fighters work harder in the gym and few fighters can absorb the punishment that he absorbs. Critics can snicker at this ranking all they want, but the bottom line is that Griffin is in sole possession of the most prestigious title in all of MMA and that alone should account for something.
  9. Lyoto Machida - Moving him into the top-ten became a no-brainer after his decisive win over Tito Ortiz at UFC 84. His resume is impressive, as he is undefeated and has wins over top ten fighters in my 185 lbs. and 205 lbs. rankings. From a pure fighting standpoint, Machida’s standup skills are strong and his ground skills are underrated. You may not like his fighting style, but you can’t deny the fact that he is without question one of the top fighters in the world.
  10. Norifumi “Kid” Yamamoto - As an overall fighter, Yamamoto is amazing. If we did a top ten pound-for-pound best fighters list that only looked at ability and technique, he’d be top ten without question. However, his recent injury is not going to help his stock considering he just recently came back from a long layoff. If someone on the cusp of the P4P top ten makes a strong run, they could debut at Yamamoto’s expense.

Heavyweight Changes:

— Fedor Emelianenko has supplanted Randy Couture as our number one ranked heavyweight. Couture hasn’t fought in almost a year, while Emelianenko fought this past January and then defeated a strong opponent in impressive fashion this past weekend.

— Couture falls to five due to inactivity.

— Andrei Arlovski moves up to number three. An impressive win against a top ten opponent counts for a lot.

— Josh Barnett is now our fourth ranked heavyweight. No, Pedro Rizzo isn’t top-ten anymore but Barnett has been more active and Rizzo and Jeff Monson are hardly tomato cans.

— Tim Sylvia and Ben Rothwell both drop. I still consider them top-ten caliber, but they have to be penalized in the rankings for their losses.

— Alistair Overeem debuts in the top-ten at nine. Pure fighting ability counts for a lot in my rankings and Overeem has plenty of natural talent. A fighter also needs the credentials to earn a spot in the top-ten and I think being the Strikeforce heavyweight champion and having a recent dominant win over Mark Hunt definitely counts for something.

Light Heavyweight Changes:

— Vladimir Matyushenko falls out of the top-ten. If you aren’t facing top-ten opponents on a regular basis, you need to be active. Matyushenko hasn’t fought since April and with others nipping on his heels behind him, it was time to make a change.

— Antonio Rogerio Nogueira returns to the top-ten at nine. He has the pure fighting ability but inactivity has been his downfall. But he looked great against Edwin Dewees and as long as he’s active, I don’t see how he can’t be viewed as one of the top light heavyweights in the world.

Lightweight Changes:

— Shinya Aoki may have lost in the DREAM lightweight GP finals, but his win in the semifinals over Caol Uno counts for something and earns him a spot at three.

— Eddie Alvarez moves up to five. No, he didn’t win the lightweight GP, but he didn’t lose it either. He went undefeated in the GP against top fighters and won this past weekend in the semifinals against a top-ten opponent in Tatsuya Kawajiri. A lot of people aren’t giving Alvarez the credit he deserves.

— Joachim Hansen fell out of the top-ten after losing to Alvarez but moves back in at six following two wins in one night, as well as the DREAM lightweight GP. Kultar Gill is a respectable opponent and a win over Aoki is just huge.

— Tatsuya Kawajiri falls to seven. There’s nothing to be ashamed of in losing to Alvarez, but in order for others to move up, he needs to move down.

— Gilbert Melendez falls out of the top ten because he has two consecutive losses and others ranked behind him have earned the right to move up.

Featherweight Changes:

— On second thought, I realized I wasn’t giving Mike Brown the credit he deserved. A win over Jeff Curran, a top-ten caliber opponent, means a lot. Brown is without question one of the best 145 lbs. fighters in the world and belongs at four.

— Antonio Carvalho falls out of the top-ten. He’s a tremendous talent, but it’s hard to keep a guy in the top-ten when he’s lost three out of his last four fights — no matter how good he is.

General Comments:

— Sean Sherk is not ranked in my top ten lightweights because it’s been since October 14, 2006 since he posted an undisputed victory. Yes, he beat Hermes Franca at UFC 73 in July of 2007, but the win is tainted and should have been ruled a no contest since both fighters tested positive for performance enhancers.

— Matt Serra is not ranked in my top ten welterweights because it’s one of the deepest weight classes in the world. And prior to UFC 53, he was almost exclusively a lightweight fighter. As a welterweight, he has just two wins in the last four years. In fact, he has just two total wins in the last four years. A win over Georges St. Pierre earns you a lot of points, but a fighter can’t live off one big win. Now that he’s no longer the UFC welterweight champion, I see no reason to continue ranking Serra in the top-ten until he starts putting up some victories.

Remember, you can view our complete rankings by weight class by clicking here.

43 COMMENTS
  • Zack with a ck says:

    These are the best rankings I’ve seen yet. I’d take out Kid just because he doesn’t fight enough and hasn’t fought top competition in forever (ever?), and maybe take Forrest out, but, then again, the Forrest we’ve seen lately is a really, really smart, strong fighter that could hold his own against pretty much anyone.

    In Kid’s place I’d slip Big Nog in…extremely tough, never out of any fight.

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  • Zack with a ck says:

    Oh, and Sam – where are you seeing people not giving Eddie credit? Everywhere I look I see people all over his nuts – and rightfully so. I’d put him at the number 2 or 3 LW right now. I think Sherdog’s new rankings have him at No. 5 LW.

    Eddie might be the one fighter that could challenge BJ at LW, especially if BJ tried to go all striking against him.

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  • Chris says:

    Machida’s “decisive win over Tito Ortiz at UFC 84″?? As I recall, he won the fight, but basically ran from Tito the entire fight. I’m not Tito-homer, but I didn’t see anything “decisive” about that win…

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  • JacRabbit says:

    Hmm… Personally I think with such a debatable victory for Forrest–I would have Rampage slotted at 8 and Forrest not listed. More than ‘W’s and ‘L’s are concerned, I think P4P should have much more to do with actual skill. Youre description of Forrest basically says it all. Plus, if Ramp and Forrest rematched, who do you honestly think would win?

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  • batman says:

    I would like to see the 5 ounces of pain top ten best MMA fighters of all time that would be interesting.

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  • JacRabbit says:

    An all-time top 10 would be cool. Sam make it happen! lol

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  • Punchintheface says:

    Anderson Silva Knocks out a crappy light heavyweight fighter and you give him the Pound 4 Pound? Fedor kills the former UFC Heavyweight Champion and he comes in second? WOW

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  • Sergio G. Hernandez says:

    Silva has been clearing out his division for the past two years and you give him the Pound 4 Pound while Fedor has been armbarring cans in Japan and he comes in second?

    Alright.

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  • Ross says:

    We are all happy that you finally now see the light- jk

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  • Ross says:

    having a recent dominant win over Mark Hunt definitely counts for something.
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    ummm, not so much.

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  • BadMonkey says:

    Glad to finally see Forrest in the top ten P4P. Even after beating Shogun & Rampage, and becoming LHW champ he still doesn’t get the respect he deserves. The guy isn’t flashy, but he works harder than anyone and he comes in with solid gameplans to beat the man in front of him.

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  • Zach says:

    I agree with your class rankings except LHW and WW, in LHW how do u have Lidell ahead of rampage, makes no sense. And condit and shields are too high in WW.

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  • Donk says:

    Fedor is undefeated in my mind and beat top guys in their prime. Fedor’s 28-1-1 vs. Silva’s 24-4, speaks volumes (and that 1 should be stricken from Fedor’s record).

    I don’t understand how you can put Anderson up a couple of notches when he defeats a guy who isn’t even a top LHW. When you were so vocal about GSP in the past. The weight difference come fight time must have been close to 10 pounds for Silva’s fight, and that isn’t much when you compare it to Sylvia’s 275 vs Fedor’s 230 (since Sylvia cuts to weigh in).

    Fedor should be #1

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  • sven says:

    A mid-level LHW is pretty much equal to most top 5 HW’s. HW is a shit division and most of the guys in its top 10 just arent that good compared to guys from other divisions. Even the also weak MW division.

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  • JacRabbit says:

    Interesting point #12 makes

    It should also be noted that Silva has fought at 205 lbs before. He is a fairly big MW. His win over a sub top-15 ranked fighter shouldn’t count for much. The fight was all good marketing.

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  • Funky k says:

    Anderson Silva would probably beat sylvia as easily as fedor did

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  • flyingogoplata says:

    Really curious about a couple of your rankings…

    1. MIshima at #5 in FW? He has only 1 win in the last 3 years (admittedly against a good opponent). Shouldn’t others like Mark HOminick be given top 10 consideration ahead of Mishima?

    2. Matt Hughes at #3 WW. He’s 1-3 in his last 4 fights and didn’t look all that impressive against Chris Lytle in his only win. Doesn’t Alves deserve to be ahead of him given his win over Hughes?

    3. Rampage all the way down to #5…OUCH! His only recent loss is to Forrest who is your #1. Chuck’s ranked higher despite losing to both Rampage and the #10 fighter in the past few months.

    4. Most curious is your omission of Diego Sanchez from the WW list. You include Jay Hieron who loses to anyone of UFC calibre he faces (Blackburn, Chris Wilson, Jonathan Goulet all in the past couple yeras) and his biggest win in the past few years is against Delson Heleno. Diego has lost only 2 fights in his ENTIRE career, both against top 10 guys (Kos and Fitch) and has wins over other top 10 fighters (Parisyan, Florian). For that matter, how can Parisyan be ranked higher when he’s only 3-2 in his past 5 and one of those losses was to Sanchez.

    I know that rankings are inherently subjective but I’d love to know the rationale behind these selections.

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  • traingleman says:

    Randy @ #5? Are u kidding me? This is the same giy that was knocked out cold twice in a row by Chuck Liddell then beat “The LAME-IAC” Tim Sylvia via Unan. Decision and hasn’t fought since??? Gimme a break! Anderson Silva would kill him, don’t even mention Fedor Vs. Cotour it would be a ritual sacraficing!! Fedor hands down #1 p4p, no questions asked! Has finished every fight he has been in?

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  • JacRabbit says:

    Clearly someone besides me is bored at work! lol

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  • Randy? says:

    How do you put a guy with just 2 fights at HW whose best win came against a crippled Tim Sylvia in the top 10 ?

    The guy is NOT a P4P fighter considering the fact he was chased out of the LHW division…

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  • doubleA-ron says:

    Well put # 7, also i like the rankings. I only question Randy couture’s spot in the top 10- are we trying to build up his fight w/ fedor or what? Also, i have never heard of this kid yammato. I guess i might not be as much a hardcore fan as i thought i was or don’t pay as much attention to these japanesse fighters(outside dream). Just wondering if you guys here at 5 oz. ever thought of having like a general discusion area to b.s. about all topics?

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  • Evan says:

    “Machida’s “decisive win over Tito Ortiz at UFC 84??? As I recall, he won the fight, but basically ran from Tito the entire fight. I’m not Tito-homer, but I didn’t see anything “decisive” about that win…”

    Amazing how many strikes and combo’s you can land when running, eh?

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  • traingleman says:

    True I am bored @ work. I just think that anyone like Fedor that truely defines dominance deserves his due! BTW he will never lose another fight but he will also never fight anyone that could challenge him. The HWs are shallow and 1 dimensional in most cases and Fedors agent will keep him from fighting enough vs. Top fighters. I would like to see Arlovski Vs. Fedor or Cro-cop again.Cro cop can knock anyone out at anytime and Arlovski has the subs to at least survive Fedor but w a suspect chin of course

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  • Ian says:

    Here’s top 5 and reasons. 6-10 is a little too subjective. Faber and Norifumi would be in there for sure though.

    1) Fedor – He’s never really lost. Lot’s of talk about Silva moving up in weight class, when the reality is, he walks around 10 pounds heavier than Anderson Silva, and always dominates people at any weight, usually 30 pounds or more at fight time. I see areas of weakness in Silva’s game. I see none in Fedor’s. He’s simply the greatest fighter of this, or any generation.

    2) Silva – Again, this guy didn’t move up to fight at 205. He had to cut 15 pounds to make that weight. That only matters in terms of comparisons to Fedor, though. This guy walked through the 185 pound UFC division and I’m not sure he broke a sweat doing it. How does anyone submit Dan Henderson with a Rear naked choke? I’m trying to come up with someone at 205 that would pose a challenge to him. Does anyone think Forrest Griffin would make it out of the first with this guy? I don’t.

    3) GSP – A focused, determined GSP in my mind would give Anderson Silva some trouble, because his biggest strength is what I believe to be Anderson’s only weakness. Wrestling. Hopefully we’ll see that fight one day. I’d rather see that than Penn vs. GSP.

    4) Penn – 3 straight dominant wins over quality opponents. He’s realizing his potential. Again, if focused, he could give GSP all kinds of trouble.

    5) Torres -This guy could end up #1 before his career is over. It’s inevitable that he and Faber are going to lock up, and it’s a toss up at this point for this spot. I have absolutely 0 idea who wins that. It’s that close.

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  • BJJDenver says:

    Meh to P4P. It is just fun fodder for us fans.

    If GSP destroys Fitch, he will be P4P until Anderson or Fedor or BJ win big again.

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  • Billy Ramsey says:

    How the hell can you have Randy Couture on that list at all. Just think back two fights ago, remember that, and two fights before that, same result.

    Sorry but it takes more than two fights to even be considered on a p4p list.

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  • cyph says:

    GSP won’t destroy Fitch. He’ll be lucky to grind out a decision win.

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  • Patrick says:

    Some interesting choices to be sure, not sure I agree with all of them, but in general I’d say the list is pretty close to accurate.

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  • DamonO says:

    # 12 Why wouldn’t Liddell be ahead of Rampage? Maybe because of the opponents Chuck has fought compared to the opponents that Rampage has fought. Don’t get me wrong, Rampage has fought some formidable opponents but that’s what it comes down to right? Who’s fought who?

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  • Sergio G. Hernandez says:

    “GSP won’t destroy Fitch. He’ll be lucky to grind out a decision win.”

    Lucky? Please. GSP takes this fight in any number of ways while Fitch will need Lady Luck on his side on the 9th.

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  • Dan says:

    The WW rankings are pretty unreal. Diego Sanchez AND Thaigo Alves not higher than Karo Parisyan, whom both of them beat? Nick Thompson higher than Parisyan as well, who beat Thompson when they fought?

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  • derreckla says:

    Griffin? Come on now. Watch the fight again and all he does is huff and throw out shots to the air for 25 minutes. To tell you how bad this is, the guy he beat was so down and out he went into the mental hospital the next week and I gaurentee you it wasn’t because of this fight it was brewing for awhile.

    And Torres? Come on he might be the best at his bantom weight class (which is another word for yancy boy class) but who else is there, some girly men out there in Mexico or in Japan.

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  • derreckla says:

    What is the obsession with Karo, What has he done? That’s all I read from peeps online that he deserves this and that? He takes all his fight to decisions

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  • Ian says:

    Yeah, #28, those lightweights with all those crazy grappling moves really are sissies. Thank GOD we’ve got someone manly and brave like you to call them out on it. From the internet. Anonymously.

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  • derreckla says:

    funny Ian. I like watching the quickness and skill. What I meant is it will be hard to find a man that is essentially has the weight of a little girl and is also skilled, seems like a double whammy…

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  • mo says:

    so let’s say by the end of the year Randy vs. Fedor happens and GSP vs. BJ happens. GSP and Fedor both win let’s say in the second round, who is ranked higher?

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  • romano says:

    i’ve never had much respect for your rankings…couture should never have been ranked number one heavyweight…sure, he’s a good story, but shortly before beating an injured sylvia and an overrated gonzaga the guy got knocked out by a light heavyweight twice…he’s a great guy, great story, but he’s lost a third of his fights.

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  • derreckla says:

    AMEN Romano, I am getting tired of the Randy Hype as well.

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  • dpk says:

    I agree that Anderson Silva is the #1 pfp, this sport is a “what have you done for me lately” business. If Fedor takes out AA in October in convincing fashion, he’ll be my number #1 pfp. Nobody can match his body of work, but since 2005 he just hasn’t fought the quality opposition that a #1 pfp fighter should be fighting. Two wins over Tim and AA would mean that he is back at the top of the sport.

    Randy doesn’t belong in the top 10 pfp, and with kids recent injury he is going to have to be dropped soon.

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  • JJ Docker says:

    I actually cannot believe that Rampage has dropped not just out of the p4p rankings, but down to fifth in the LHW rankings. The latter ranking is even below Chuck Liddell who he KO’d in the first round. In terms of the p4p, he is below Forrest which I can accept that seeing as he lost to him recently, but I may add that it wasn’t in a particularly decisive fashion. And he is below Lyota Machida and Kid Yamamoto?! Both are very respectable fighters, don’t get me wrong, but if these rankings are based on ability and fights against top 10 opponents then Rampage must surely come above Yamamoto just because of the fact that his last 3 fights have been against Chuck Liddell (recognised as best LHW fighter on the planet at the time they fought), Dan Henderson (Pride LHW champ) and Forrest (top 10 fighter that had just beaten Shogun – arguably recognised as 2nd best LHW fighter at the time of their fight). Maybe this has something to do with intangibles? All that I can think of in that case are Rampages recent arrest and “possible mental problems”, which have hardly been clarified enough to make them valid reasons to drop him to 5th in LHW. I honestly think Rampage deserves a spot over Lyoto Machida and Kid Yamamoto in the p4p rankings, if not then at least over Yamamoto simply based on quality of opponents fought and how well he has fared agaisnt them.

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  • Jackyl says:

    Lyoto’s win over Ortiz was dominant. So he circles away and doesn’t get hit. If that is all it takes to win then wouldn’t everyone do it? He has a hit and not get hit style. It frustrates your opponent psychologically and baits them into your game plan. If you watch the Ortiz fight Machida lands all kinds of combos, a flying scissor kick, and a knee to the gut that dropped Ortiz. Machida is undefeated and has wins over BJ Penn, Stephan Bonnar, tko’d Rich Franklin, submitted Sokodjou, and had a one sided win over Ortiz. So of course he deserves to be ranked in the top ten.

    The Griffin thing is getting hilarious too. First Rampage got robbed. Now he lost the fight because he was depressed. You are the UFC LHW champ! You have two decisive wins over one of the most popular fighters in the world! You are constantly banging hot japanese chicks! What the F!ck do you have to be depressed about?

    It is amazing to me how some of you just reach to hate on Anderson Silva. The MW division is shallow but he still has decisive wins over some top guys. Domination of Franklin, Marquardt, Lutter, Henderson. Those guys are not slouches. Holes in his game? What weakness has he shown? He has destroyed everyone. Lutter had him down but he didn’t do anything. Plus Anderson submitted him from the bottom. So what if he walks around at 220 or so. He still cuts down to MW, which is crazy. Vera cut to 205 and it nearly killed him.

    The reason Fedor is looked upon as the best is because he has never really been defeated. He was one loss due to a cut. He has beat some of the top guys in the world. Now that Affliction has him we should see him in some good fights like Barnett and Arlovski. Love him or hate him, Tim Sylvia is top ten HW and a former UFC champ. I know Fedor was expected to win, but did anyone think he would that dominant?

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  • dastruggler says:

    well anderson silva would never be a top lightheavyweight for long if he did stay in the 205 pound division he always has that strikers chance but he would surely be out wrestled by the best in that division

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  • derreckla says:

    Um the Pitbull is listed below Matt hughes and Karo both of which he destroyed..um…

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