Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain releases updated rankings: Anderson Silva new top pound-for-pound fighter

By: derreckla

derreckla — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:12:52 +0000

Um the Pitbull is listed below Matt hughes and Karo both of which he destroyed..um…

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By: dastruggler

dastruggler — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:04:03 +0000

well anderson silva would never be a top lightheavyweight for long if he did stay in the 205 pound division he always has that strikers chance but he would surely be out wrestled by the best in that division

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By: Jackyl

Jackyl — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:18:32 +0000

Lyoto’s win over Ortiz was dominant. So he circles away and doesn’t get hit. If that is all it takes to win then wouldn’t everyone do it? He has a hit and not get hit style. It frustrates your opponent psychologically and baits them into your game plan. If you watch the Ortiz fight Machida lands all kinds of combos, a flying scissor kick, and a knee to the gut that dropped Ortiz. Machida is undefeated and has wins over BJ Penn, Stephan Bonnar, tko’d Rich Franklin, submitted Sokodjou, and had a one sided win over Ortiz. So of course he deserves to be ranked in the top ten.

The Griffin thing is getting hilarious too. First Rampage got robbed. Now he lost the fight because he was depressed. You are the UFC LHW champ! You have two decisive wins over one of the most popular fighters in the world! You are constantly banging hot japanese chicks! What the F!ck do you have to be depressed about?

It is amazing to me how some of you just reach to hate on Anderson Silva. The MW division is shallow but he still has decisive wins over some top guys. Domination of Franklin, Marquardt, Lutter, Henderson. Those guys are not slouches. Holes in his game? What weakness has he shown? He has destroyed everyone. Lutter had him down but he didn’t do anything. Plus Anderson submitted him from the bottom. So what if he walks around at 220 or so. He still cuts down to MW, which is crazy. Vera cut to 205 and it nearly killed him.

The reason Fedor is looked upon as the best is because he has never really been defeated. He was one loss due to a cut. He has beat some of the top guys in the world. Now that Affliction has him we should see him in some good fights like Barnett and Arlovski. Love him or hate him, Tim Sylvia is top ten HW and a former UFC champ. I know Fedor was expected to win, but did anyone think he would that dominant?

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By: JJ Docker

JJ Docker — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:29:46 +0000

I actually cannot believe that Rampage has dropped not just out of the p4p rankings, but down to fifth in the LHW rankings. The latter ranking is even below Chuck Liddell who he KO’d in the first round. In terms of the p4p, he is below Forrest which I can accept that seeing as he lost to him recently, but I may add that it wasn’t in a particularly decisive fashion. And he is below Lyota Machida and Kid Yamamoto?! Both are very respectable fighters, don’t get me wrong, but if these rankings are based on ability and fights against top 10 opponents then Rampage must surely come above Yamamoto just because of the fact that his last 3 fights have been against Chuck Liddell (recognised as best LHW fighter on the planet at the time they fought), Dan Henderson (Pride LHW champ) and Forrest (top 10 fighter that had just beaten Shogun – arguably recognised as 2nd best LHW fighter at the time of their fight). Maybe this has something to do with intangibles? All that I can think of in that case are Rampages recent arrest and “possible mental problems”, which have hardly been clarified enough to make them valid reasons to drop him to 5th in LHW. I honestly think Rampage deserves a spot over Lyoto Machida and Kid Yamamoto in the p4p rankings, if not then at least over Yamamoto simply based on quality of opponents fought and how well he has fared agaisnt them.

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By: dpk

dpk — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:12:33 +0000

I agree that Anderson Silva is the #1 pfp, this sport is a “what have you done for me lately” business. If Fedor takes out AA in October in convincing fashion, he’ll be my number #1 pfp. Nobody can match his body of work, but since 2005 he just hasn’t fought the quality opposition that a #1 pfp fighter should be fighting. Two wins over Tim and AA would mean that he is back at the top of the sport.

Randy doesn’t belong in the top 10 pfp, and with kids recent injury he is going to have to be dropped soon.

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By: derreckla

derreckla — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:36:54 +0000

AMEN Romano, I am getting tired of the Randy Hype as well.

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By: romano

romano — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:10:29 +0000

i’ve never had much respect for your rankings…couture should never have been ranked number one heavyweight…sure, he’s a good story, but shortly before beating an injured sylvia and an overrated gonzaga the guy got knocked out by a light heavyweight twice…he’s a great guy, great story, but he’s lost a third of his fights.

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By: mo

mo — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:57:58 +0000

so let’s say by the end of the year Randy vs. Fedor happens and GSP vs. BJ happens. GSP and Fedor both win let’s say in the second round, who is ranked higher?

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By: derreckla

derreckla — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:46:24 +0000

funny Ian. I like watching the quickness and skill. What I meant is it will be hard to find a man that is essentially has the weight of a little girl and is also skilled, seems like a double whammy…

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By: Ian

Ian — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:41:59 +0000

Yeah, #28, those lightweights with all those crazy grappling moves really are sissies. Thank GOD we’ve got someone manly and brave like you to call them out on it. From the internet. Anonymously.

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By: derreckla

derreckla — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:36:42 +0000

What is the obsession with Karo, What has he done? That’s all I read from peeps online that he deserves this and that? He takes all his fight to decisions

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By: derreckla

derreckla — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:35:31 +0000

Griffin? Come on now. Watch the fight again and all he does is huff and throw out shots to the air for 25 minutes. To tell you how bad this is, the guy he beat was so down and out he went into the mental hospital the next week and I gaurentee you it wasn’t because of this fight it was brewing for awhile.

And Torres? Come on he might be the best at his bantom weight class (which is another word for yancy boy class) but who else is there, some girly men out there in Mexico or in Japan.

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By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:10:32 +0000

The WW rankings are pretty unreal. Diego Sanchez AND Thaigo Alves not higher than Karo Parisyan, whom both of them beat? Nick Thompson higher than Parisyan as well, who beat Thompson when they fought?

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By: Sergio G. Hernandez

Sergio G. Hernandez — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:59:30 +0000

“GSP won’t destroy Fitch. He’ll be lucky to grind out a decision win.”

Lucky? Please. GSP takes this fight in any number of ways while Fitch will need Lady Luck on his side on the 9th.

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By: DamonO

DamonO — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:43:14 +0000

# 12 Why wouldn’t Liddell be ahead of Rampage? Maybe because of the opponents Chuck has fought compared to the opponents that Rampage has fought. Don’t get me wrong, Rampage has fought some formidable opponents but that’s what it comes down to right? Who’s fought who?

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By: Patrick

Patrick — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:04:48 +0000

Some interesting choices to be sure, not sure I agree with all of them, but in general I’d say the list is pretty close to accurate.

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By: cyph

cyph — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:45:02 +0000

GSP won’t destroy Fitch. He’ll be lucky to grind out a decision win.

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By: Billy Ramsey

Billy Ramsey — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:41:27 +0000

How the hell can you have Randy Couture on that list at all. Just think back two fights ago, remember that, and two fights before that, same result.

Sorry but it takes more than two fights to even be considered on a p4p list.

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By: BJJDenver

BJJDenver — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:19:01 +0000

Meh to P4P. It is just fun fodder for us fans.

If GSP destroys Fitch, he will be P4P until Anderson or Fedor or BJ win big again.

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By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:02:55 +0000

Here’s top 5 and reasons. 6-10 is a little too subjective. Faber and Norifumi would be in there for sure though.

1) Fedor – He’s never really lost. Lot’s of talk about Silva moving up in weight class, when the reality is, he walks around 10 pounds heavier than Anderson Silva, and always dominates people at any weight, usually 30 pounds or more at fight time. I see areas of weakness in Silva’s game. I see none in Fedor’s. He’s simply the greatest fighter of this, or any generation.

2) Silva – Again, this guy didn’t move up to fight at 205. He had to cut 15 pounds to make that weight. That only matters in terms of comparisons to Fedor, though. This guy walked through the 185 pound UFC division and I’m not sure he broke a sweat doing it. How does anyone submit Dan Henderson with a Rear naked choke? I’m trying to come up with someone at 205 that would pose a challenge to him. Does anyone think Forrest Griffin would make it out of the first with this guy? I don’t.

3) GSP – A focused, determined GSP in my mind would give Anderson Silva some trouble, because his biggest strength is what I believe to be Anderson’s only weakness. Wrestling. Hopefully we’ll see that fight one day. I’d rather see that than Penn vs. GSP.

4) Penn – 3 straight dominant wins over quality opponents. He’s realizing his potential. Again, if focused, he could give GSP all kinds of trouble.

5) Torres -This guy could end up #1 before his career is over. It’s inevitable that he and Faber are going to lock up, and it’s a toss up at this point for this spot. I have absolutely 0 idea who wins that. It’s that close.

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