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	<title>Comments on: Babalu against Ortiz?</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/24/babalu-wants-tito-ortiz/comment-page-1/#comment-41061</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much do you think Tito would gouge Affliction for, over a million per fight? He&#039;ll bring in the PPV buys, but let&#039;s not pretend he&#039;s a top 10 LW any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much do you think Tito would gouge Affliction for, over a million per fight? He&#8217;ll bring in the PPV buys, but let&#8217;s not pretend he&#8217;s a top 10 LW any more.
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito still has plenty of fight left in him.  Like the above poster said he&#039;s lost to Liddell and Machida and had a draw with Evans. And the draw was BS, just listen to Hackleman&#039;s assessment of the fight. Tito chased Rashad around the ring, and Rashad was saved by the bell in the 2nd round when Tito had a deep choke in. 

Go watch Machida absolutely dominate Sokoudjou and finish him with a choke in the 2nd round. He beat Tito by scoring points and backpedaling and nearly got finished in the 3rd round by a triangle/armbar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito still has plenty of fight left in him.  Like the above poster said he&#8217;s lost to Liddell and Machida and had a draw with Evans. And the draw was BS, just listen to Hackleman&#8217;s assessment of the fight. Tito chased Rashad around the ring, and Rashad was saved by the bell in the 2nd round when Tito had a deep choke in. </p>
<p>Go watch Machida absolutely dominate Sokoudjou and finish him with a choke in the 2nd round. He beat Tito by scoring points and backpedaling and nearly got finished in the 3rd round by a triangle/armbar.
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		<title>By: doubleA-ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>doubleA-ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would pay to watch this! Not 40 bucks, but i would pay 5bucks.lol.  It would draw a crowd though i do believe.  Some good looking porn stars anyways!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would pay to watch this! Not 40 bucks, but i would pay 5bucks.lol.  It would draw a crowd though i do believe.  Some good looking porn stars anyways!
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		<title>By: Sergio G. Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio G. Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But he hasn&#039;t.

He hasn&#039;t beaten Liddell, he hasn&#039;t beaten Jardine, he hasn&#039;t beaten Lil Nog, and he hasn&#039;t beaten Evans.

Clearly, Tito couldn&#039;t beat Chuck given the chance two times so what makes you think he can now?  I&#039;ll give you Jardine and Evans in a rematch but Lil Nog?

If you think Ortiz can beat Lil Nog, you&#039;re just as mistaken as he is regarding his skill and place in the current MMA landscape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But he hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t beaten Liddell, he hasn&#8217;t beaten Jardine, he hasn&#8217;t beaten Lil Nog, and he hasn&#8217;t beaten Evans.</p>
<p>Clearly, Tito couldn&#8217;t beat Chuck given the chance two times so what makes you think he can now?  I&#8217;ll give you Jardine and Evans in a rematch but Lil Nog?</p>
<p>If you think Ortiz can beat Lil Nog, you&#8217;re just as mistaken as he is regarding his skill and place in the current MMA landscape.
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		<title>By: aaronb</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito clearly beat Rashad Evans last summer. It was a draw due to a fence grab. Rashad is supposedly top 10. His other losses were to top 3 guys in Liddell, and Machida. And Machida didn&#039;t exactly &quot;steamroll&quot; through Tito. If guys like Soko, Evans, Jardine and Rod Nog are supposedly top ten. Tito has to be right there with them. Wandy lost 3 in a row before rebounding against Jardine and landing in the top 5. Clearly Tito could beat any of the above guys on any given night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito clearly beat Rashad Evans last summer. It was a draw due to a fence grab. Rashad is supposedly top 10. His other losses were to top 3 guys in Liddell, and Machida. And Machida didn&#8217;t exactly &#8220;steamroll&#8221; through Tito. If guys like Soko, Evans, Jardine and Rod Nog are supposedly top ten. Tito has to be right there with them. Wandy lost 3 in a row before rebounding against Jardine and landing in the top 5. Clearly Tito could beat any of the above guys on any given night.
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		<title>By: Prysion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prysion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito is straight garbage what the hell you talking about. First of all he didn&#039;t beat Rashad, it was a DRAW. 2nd of all, Tito Ortiz is a little girl all he does it try to shoot in every damn second and not get the takedown and cover up all day. Tito is NOT a fighter hes a little girl wrestler, send him to WWE. Tito&#039;s stand up is HORRIBLE, can he even throw a punch?

Least Babalu actually went the distance with Fedor in losing a decision. Fedor vs tito? try 10 second ko or submission ....ahh might take alittle longer cause tito would just cover up to survive soon as the bell rings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito is straight garbage what the hell you talking about. First of all he didn&#8217;t beat Rashad, it was a DRAW. 2nd of all, Tito Ortiz is a little girl all he does it try to shoot in every damn second and not get the takedown and cover up all day. Tito is NOT a fighter hes a little girl wrestler, send him to WWE. Tito&#8217;s stand up is HORRIBLE, can he even throw a punch?</p>
<p>Least Babalu actually went the distance with Fedor in losing a decision. Fedor vs tito? try 10 second ko or submission &#8230;.ahh might take alittle longer cause tito would just cover up to survive soon as the bell rings.
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		<title>By: Sergio G. Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio G. Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is NO way Tito is a Top 5-7 heavyweight.  He can MAYBE be ranked at #10 but that&#039;s pushing it for someone who is 0-2-1 in his last three fights and whose last relevant victory came against a then-unranked Forrest Griffin over two years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is NO way Tito is a Top 5-7 heavyweight.  He can MAYBE be ranked at #10 but that&#8217;s pushing it for someone who is 0-2-1 in his last three fights and whose last relevant victory came against a then-unranked Forrest Griffin over two years ago.
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		<title>By: aaronb</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tito is still a viable top 5-7 LHW. Losing to Machida and Liddell doesn&#039;t mean he is now irrellivant. He beat Rashad Evans who is supposed to be top 10. He beat Forrest Griffin 2 years ago. Tito is still a top guy when he wants to fight. He just needs to be more active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tito is still a viable top 5-7 LHW. Losing to Machida and Liddell doesn&#8217;t mean he is now irrellivant. He beat Rashad Evans who is supposed to be top 10. He beat Forrest Griffin 2 years ago. Tito is still a top guy when he wants to fight. He just needs to be more active.
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa that made no sense.  You know Tito isn&#039;t a lightweight, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa that made no sense.  You know Tito isn&#8217;t a lightweight, right?
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		<title>By: Brian 'the law' hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian 'the law' hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y do they keep getting has been...
If  OrtiZ win a belt 4 Affliction it will show that they have week fighters @ 205. Which is the most important weight class in any one on one sport. Tito not even top 5 lightweight challengers in UFC...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y do they keep getting has been&#8230;<br />
If  OrtiZ win a belt 4 Affliction it will show that they have week fighters @ 205. Which is the most important weight class in any one on one sport. Tito not even top 5 lightweight challengers in UFC&#8230;
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