Comments on: Gruesome cut on Robbie Lawler’s head (pic) http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:14:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Bryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41890 Bryan Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:43:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41890 A PPV bonus IS what they are being paid to fight. They fight on the PPV and they get a percentage of it. Would you not consider a win bonus part of their purse? -BJ Penn made 250,000 for his fight at 84. If he fought 4 times that year w/o Fight of the Night or KO/Sub bonuses he made $1 million dollars just in UFC salary. -Tito Ortiz on the same card made 210,000 to LOSE to Lyoto Machida. If he LOSES 4 times in one year he made 840,000. -Same with Rampage, 225,000 to lose to Forrest. And forrest made 250,000 to beat him. If any of those that I mentioned above took home even a small cut of the PPV money for any of those cards. They made more for one event that I will over the next 4 years. And I make a decent amount of money. Bottom line is that these guys aren't poor. They get paid very well to fight. Alot of the undercard guys don't get very much. But if you work hard and win some fights you can re-up for a whole lot more (just ask forrest). A PPV bonus IS what they are being paid to fight. They fight on the PPV and they get a percentage of it. Would you not consider a win bonus part of their purse?

-BJ Penn made 250,000 for his fight at 84. If he fought 4 times that year w/o Fight of the Night or KO/Sub bonuses he made $1 million dollars just in UFC salary.

-Tito Ortiz on the same card made 210,000 to LOSE to Lyoto Machida. If he LOSES 4 times in one year he made 840,000.

-Same with Rampage, 225,000 to lose to Forrest. And forrest made 250,000 to beat him.

If any of those that I mentioned above took home even a small cut of the PPV money for any of those cards. They made more for one event that I will over the next 4 years. And I make a decent amount of money.

Bottom line is that these guys aren’t poor. They get paid very well to fight. Alot of the undercard guys don’t get very much. But if you work hard and win some fights you can re-up for a whole lot more (just ask forrest).

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]]> By: Tapout2GJJ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41843 Tapout2GJJ Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:15:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41843 #19 Ryan- that was a mature response. Learn to use spell check and be articulate to argue your points. Calling Dana a "fag" might be cool with the junior high crowd, but you just come off as ignornat and an idiot here. Couture made a substantial amount of money in his last year with the UFC, and the UFC made a substantial amount of money off Randy. However, it was a mutually beneficial relationship. The UFC took Randy and made him a household name with TUF and his fights with Tito, Chuck, and Tim. In return, we tuned in to see Randy fight and entertain us on TUF. Who is right in this arguement? Neither side is right, yet neither is wrong. Randy probably deserved to make a quite a bit more money that the UFC was paying him, without a doubt. HOWEVER Randy was under a contractual obligation to fulfill said contract, not "retire" then come back to fight in another org because he was unhappy. Just my opinion on the matter. #19 Ryan- that was a mature response. Learn to use spell check and be articulate to argue your points. Calling Dana a “fag” might be cool with the junior high crowd, but you just come off as ignornat and an idiot here.

Couture made a substantial amount of money in his last year with the UFC, and the UFC made a substantial amount of money off Randy. However, it was a mutually beneficial relationship. The UFC took Randy and made him a household name with TUF and his fights with Tito, Chuck, and Tim. In return, we tuned in to see Randy fight and entertain us on TUF.

Who is right in this arguement? Neither side is right, yet neither is wrong. Randy probably deserved to make a quite a bit more money that the UFC was paying him, without a doubt. HOWEVER Randy was under a contractual obligation to fulfill said contract, not “retire” then come back to fight in another org because he was unhappy.

Just my opinion on the matter.

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]]> By: Fightlinker.com » Blog Archive » Squirty squirt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41815 Fightlinker.com » Blog Archive » Squirty squirt Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:20:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41815 [...] for waiting on the ref to stop the fight and check the cut on Robbie Lawler’s head. But after seeing the cut and now seeing this picture of blood squirting out of Robbie’s head with more pressure than [...] [...] for waiting on the ref to stop the fight and check the cut on Robbie Lawler’s head. But after seeing the cut and now seeing this picture of blood squirting out of Robbie’s head with more pressure than [...]

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]]> By: ACK! http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41740 ACK! Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:57:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41740 Signing bonuses and PPV bonuses do not mean fighters are being paid millions per fight. And just because Randy Couture was paid nearly 3 million in one year doesn't mean much to me. Randy was used by the UFC for a lot of things beyond fighting considering he is one of the biggest faces of the sport. I'm concerned with what fighters are paid for fighting (such as actual purses). Not signing bonuses, fight bonuses, or whatever else that is contract specific. If you examine the information you linked to: Here were the highlights of the press conference: - Couture did indeed receive a signing bonus with his new contract (contrary to his claim). The bonus totaled $500,000 -- half of it was paid upon signing the contract and the other half was paid after his UFC 68 fight against Tim Sylvia. - Couture was also paid a salary of $200,000 per year as a UFC employee in 2006 and 2007 as well as $56,000 per year for his commentating gigs for the promotion. - At UFC 68, Couture's purse was $250,000. His pay-per-view bonus was $936,000. - At UFC 74, Couture's purse was $250,000. His pay-per-view bonus is calculated as $787,000. And he received a $35,000 bonus for fight of the night. - Mulkey estimated that Couture's pay this year is just under $3 million to date. I think it's clear that Randy had such a good gig because he is one of the faces of the sport, not just because he fought good fights. In fact, he never had a purse larger than $250, 000. If you want to use Randy to prove all fighters are paid great by the UFC, consider that Randy Couture is a one-of-a-kind fighter and a huge PPV draw--maybe the biggest in the sport. Maybe I was and am wrong and many fighters are paid like him, but that's yet to be proven either way. Signing bonuses and PPV bonuses do not mean fighters are being paid millions per fight. And just because Randy Couture was paid nearly 3 million in one year doesn’t mean much to me. Randy was used by the UFC for a lot of things beyond fighting considering he is one of the biggest faces of the sport. I’m concerned with what fighters are paid for fighting (such as actual purses). Not signing bonuses, fight bonuses, or whatever else that is contract specific.

If you examine the information you linked to:

Here were the highlights of the press conference:

- Couture did indeed receive a signing bonus with his new contract (contrary to his claim). The bonus totaled $500,000 — half of it was paid upon signing the contract and the other half was paid after his UFC 68 fight against Tim Sylvia.

- Couture was also paid a salary of $200,000 per year as a UFC employee in 2006 and 2007 as well as $56,000 per year for his commentating gigs for the promotion.

- At UFC 68, Couture’s purse was $250,000. His pay-per-view bonus was $936,000.

- At UFC 74, Couture’s purse was $250,000. His pay-per-view bonus is calculated as $787,000. And he received a $35,000 bonus for fight of the night.

- Mulkey estimated that Couture’s pay this year is just under $3 million to date.

I think it’s clear that Randy had such a good gig because he is one of the faces of the sport, not just because he fought good fights. In fact, he never had a purse larger than $250, 000. If you want to use Randy to prove all fighters are paid great by the UFC, consider that Randy Couture is a one-of-a-kind fighter and a huge PPV draw–maybe the biggest in the sport.

Maybe I was and am wrong and many fighters are paid like him, but that’s yet to be proven either way.

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]]> By: ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41680 ryan Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:30:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41680 dana white is a fag and a dirtball liar you cant believe a word he says also the pice of shit prolly fixes his books keep on ridin his dick and only being a ufc fan not a MMA fan TRUE FANS dana white is a fag and a dirtball liar
you cant believe a word he says
also the pice of shit prolly fixes his books
keep on ridin his dick and only being a ufc fan not a MMA fan
TRUE FANS

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]]> By: Bryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41651 Bryan Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:54:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41651 From http://articles.latimes.com/2007/oct/31/sports/sp-ufc31 Responding to criticism from resigned champion Randy Couture that they underpaid fighters, Ultimate Fighting Championship executives Tuesday took the unprecedented step of publicly announcing what they’re paying the former heavyweight star this year: nearly $2.9 million. “We pay our fighters very well,” UFC President Dana White said at a news conference in Las Vegas. “The statements [Couture] has made are not true.” From http://articles.latimes.com/2007/oct/31/sports/sp-ufc31

Responding to criticism from resigned champion Randy Couture that they underpaid fighters, Ultimate Fighting Championship executives Tuesday took the unprecedented step of publicly announcing what they’re paying the former heavyweight star this year: nearly $2.9 million.

“We pay our fighters very well,” UFC President Dana White said at a news conference in Las Vegas. “The statements [Couture] has made are not true.”

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]]> By: Bryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41650 Bryan Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:49:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41650 from http://martialarts.about.com/b/2007/10/12/randy-couture-retires-fedor-emelianenko-signs-exclusive-contract-but-not-with-the-ufc.htm "Couture also claimed that he had talked with other fighters, and the approximately $250,000 plus a ppv percentage that he made per fight was nowhere near what they made. " and check this out http://video.ufc.tv/Press_Doc.pdf Now tell me that Chuck Liddell, Rampage, GSP, Tito (while he was there) and even Forrest now don't get something similar. Frankly, I don't appriciate being called a liar. from http://martialarts.about.com/b/2007/10/12/randy-couture-retires-fedor-emelianenko-signs-exclusive-contract-but-not-with-the-ufc.htm

“Couture also claimed that he had talked with other fighters, and the approximately $250,000 plus a ppv percentage that he made per fight was nowhere near what they made. ”

and check this out

http://video.ufc.tv/Press_Doc.pdf

Now tell me that Chuck Liddell, Rampage, GSP, Tito (while he was there) and even Forrest now don’t get something similar.

Frankly, I don’t appriciate being called a liar.

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]]> By: ACK! http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41644 ACK! Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:00:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41644 #10 Bryan What fighter makes millions per fight in the UFC? I can't even think of a fighter who made millions per year. Frankly, that's a load of crap. #10 Bryan
What fighter makes millions per fight in the UFC? I can’t even think of a fighter who made millions per year. Frankly, that’s a load of crap.

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]]> By: ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41640 ryan Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:51:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41640 also i know that he is fighting vera but who is vera he had a poor showing at 205 debut and has had boring fights all around also i know that he is fighting vera
but who is vera he had a poor showing at 205 debut and has had boring fights all around

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]]> By: ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/28/gruesome-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-41639 ryan Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:48:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4365#comment-41639 the ufc can put together much better cards look at the next one two goods fight GSP v Fitch and K-flo v huerta that is it say what you want i know all about the other guys on the card i know what they have done who they have fought and the ufc can do better UFC 88 could be stronger hendo needs to fight a top guy and franklin will be exposed against hamill and chuck should have a top opponet not to hate on rashad(repping michigan) but he has not shown that he is at that level and dont give that he beat bisbing UFC 89 i know is free but if you are going to have sokoudjou and jardine on the same card why are they not fighting each other a lot of people have them both in the top 10?? well jardine is coming off a lose but to a top guy so that shouldn't matter but they are giving him a comeback fight that to me is bull shit if you lose to a top guy that is fine what i am saying is have the top guys fight eachother all the time the ufc has a deep as roster they are just playing the politics the ufc can put together much better cards look at the next one
two goods fight GSP v Fitch and K-flo v huerta
that is it say what you want i know all about the other guys on the card i know what they have done who they have fought and the ufc can do better
UFC 88 could be stronger hendo needs to fight a top guy and franklin will be exposed against hamill and chuck should have a top opponet not to hate on rashad(repping michigan) but he has not shown that he is at that level and dont give that he beat bisbing
UFC 89 i know is free but if you are going to have sokoudjou and jardine on the same card why are they not fighting each other a lot of people have them both in the top 10??
well jardine is coming off a lose but to a top guy so that shouldn’t matter but they are giving him a comeback fight
that to me is bull shit if you lose to a top guy that is fine
what i am saying is have the top guys fight eachother all the time the ufc has a deep as roster they are just playing the politics

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