Tim Sylvia expects to fight on second Affliction card
July 28, 2008 by Michael Huckaby
Tim Sylvia recently conducted an interview with The Houston Chronicle and stated he believes he’ll be a part of Affliction’s second show on October 11th.
Other topics include his thoughts on WAMMA as a unified MMA world championship, a future rematch with Fedor Emelianenko and the difference between the UFC and Affliction is it pertains to the treatment of fighters. You can watch the interview here:
I like how Tim keeps talking about how Affliction “takes care of people”. Of course his overpaid ass likes how Affliction is taking care of people. After getting brutalized in the first minute against Fedor, I sincerely doubt that Affliction would want to pay Tim $800,000 to fight again. That’s ridiculous shit.
good interview
Tim was very restrained when speaking about the UFC. It’s smart of him not to burn any bridges.
Tim is one of the best heavyweights in the world. One crushing loss against the very best doesn’t change that nor what he is worth.
“One crushing loss against the very best doesn’t change that nor what he is worth.”
Well, he was NEVER worth $800,000 so I guess you’re right.
Sylvia has Barnett and that’s the ONLY compelling match-up left for the guy.
Tim is a boring joke the fact that he made that much money for that preformance is ridiculous. If he isnt over rated really who is the UFC was smart in letting him go.
#5 - He was never worth $800,000 in the UFC’s eyes, an organization who severely underpays fighters that White doesn’t have a man-crush on.
Sylvia Barnett would be a great fight.
And hell, I wouldn’t mind another Sylvia Arlovski fight either.
People will start seeing where the UFC is coming from if Tim Sylvia were to lose his next fight by 1st Rd sub against say Josh Barnett in one minute.
Then Affliction realizes they’re losing a ton of money, getting few buys and “wait, we just paid Tim Sylvia $1.6 million for 90 seconds of work. Is it smart to book him again?”
UFC severely underpays SOME fighters. Once they get to that Sylvia, Arlovski or Ortiz level I think it’s up to them to decide if they’re worth the near or 7 figures they’re asking to get.
After the Fedor fight, Tim should fight for a t-shirt. He is a top HW, which isn’t saying a whole lot in a weak division.
As for the UFC underpaying, well, i guess they should pay more, but that is so over-done on the internet. Yeah, Affliction pays good, but they are not going to last long at their current rate. look for smaller payrolls in their future shows, then you can start complaining that Affliction pays to little.
If you had a promotion, would you pay Sylvia 800k? Doubtful, but a lot of people think they know how things should be done. Go start your own promotion and let’s see how profitable it is.
Huckaby is right… it doesn’t matter if Big Tim is a top 5 heavyweight. If he’s gonna get subbed in a minute or bore the audience into a coma over 15-25 minutes, he isn’t worth over 3/4 of a million dollars.
#7 - To say that they lose money by having Sylvia isn’t fair, as it’s impossible to know how many viewers he draws. Sure, it may seem a little high, but it’s undeniable that fighters from other organizations see this number. Maybe this was their plan, as it will help attract fighters who think they can make an extra buck.
I’m sure Sylvia got paid less than MegaDeth, and I had way more fun watching Sylvia.
lol why the random Rico hate at the end of the video?
are we forgetting that tim has lost 3 of his last 4 fights
that ain’t worth 800k, not to mention now matter how hard a promotion/or he may try fans just don’t take to him.
maybe he’ll fight rothwell?
If Affliction starts to take over the heavyweight division. I’m sure alot of mediocre/good LHW’s from the UFC will try and move up weight to get a piece of those high payouts.
I’m sure if that happens there won’t be an issue of finding compelling fights for sylvia.
The thing is, there is only one promotion where you know you will be fighting and getting paid, the UFC. If you sign a 6 fight contract with Promotion X for 1 million per fight, that is great, but how great is it when they fold after 3 shows? I don’t see a mass exodus from the UFC to shows like EXC or Affliction, because in the UFC, the fighters know they will get the fights and the pay. I’m sure Babalu would rather be in the UFC still, considering how he has fared since being cut.
Why would LHW’s move up weight? Affliction has a Light Heavyweight class too…
And don’t misunderstand me, I am all for competition, but these orgs need to be going about it the smart way and following business models like UFC or Strikeforce.
# 14 BJJDenver Says:
July 28th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
The thing is, there is only one promotion where you know you will be fighting and getting paid, the UFC. If you sign a 6 fight contract with Promotion X for 1 million per fight, that is great, but how great is it when they fold after 3 shows? I don’t see a mass exodus from the UFC to shows like EXC or Affliction, because in the UFC, the fighters know they will get the fights and the pay. I’m sure Babalu would rather be in the UFC still, considering how he has fared since being cut
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Unless Dana White decides he wants to bench you. Then you can sit on the sidelines. Not get paid to not have any matches. Not be able to go fight elsewhere because of your exclusive UFC contract.
Or they could just freeze you out and outright release you from your one-sided contract without paying you anything. The only sure thing about UFC contracts is that the UFC holds ALL the cards.
Babalu made 180 Grand to fight for Affliction.
He made 25 and 21 grand for his 2 UFC fights in 2007. I’m sure he really wishes he was back in the UFC.
180K for 1 fight > 46 K for 2 fights
#15 & #17 BJJDenver
The UFC signs many of their fighters to ridiculous exclusive contracts that automatically re-up at the same rate if you win all your fights, claim one of the belts, or basically prove you deserve more money. And if you lose one fight you can be released at any time–with your contract being used to wipe Dana’s ass. However, more marketable fighters may not be so lucky as the UFC may even choose to wait out your contract, essentially stalling your career by preventing you from fighting for them or anyone else.
Yeah, every promotion should follow the UFC’s lead.
I guess I made my statement kind of muddled. What I’m saying, is that signing a great contract with a company that probably won’t be around in 2 years, may not turn out to be that great of a deal. Great for all these guys that got paid, but no way Affliction can sustain that pay. 800k to Sylvia? 80 to Whitehead? Like I said, good for them.
And you may not like UFC’s controlling contracts, but if you were the business owner, you would be much happier if you owned a profitable UFC than say, EXC. Any promotion can tear up a contract for little or no reason, even the NFL does it all the time. I do think the UFC will start paying a little better and eliminate things like automatically renewing contracts, but they have shown a successful business model, how many other promotions can say that? I’m 100% for Affliction succeeding, but they won’t if they keep losing tons of money.
If there is no other competition. There is no incentive for the ufc to do things like
1. Pay fighters a fair wage
2. Put on consitently good fights
3. Put out so many free shows
4. Try and push themselves to be the best they can be
Competition is good for the fans. Competition is good for the fighters.
aaronb is a very smart man.