Comments on: Report: Rampage Jackson splits with Juanito Ibarra; UFC looking towards November fight with Silva http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 11:06:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: B http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-44114 B Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:38:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-44114 "batman on July 29th, 2008 11:14 pm I think it’s funny how rampage can treat life like it’s bumper cars and all dana white cares about is his next dream match. When Jesse Taylor breaks a window Dana White freaks out and fires him on the grounds that it was unacceptable for the company. Ok then what about Rampage shouldn’t Dana white fire him." You do have to admit that there is a big difference between having a breakdown and being a drunken douche bag. Not saying what Rampage did was right, but who knows what he would have done if he had gotten fired. Besides, Taylor got his second shot and got whooped. “batman on July 29th, 2008 11:14 pm I think it’s funny how rampage can treat life like it’s bumper cars and all dana white cares about is his next dream match. When Jesse Taylor breaks a window Dana White freaks out and fires him on the grounds that it was unacceptable for the company. Ok then what about Rampage shouldn’t Dana white fire him.”

You do have to admit that there is a big difference between having a breakdown and being a drunken douche bag. Not saying what Rampage did was right, but who knows what he would have done if he had gotten fired. Besides, Taylor got his second shot and got whooped.

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]]> By: Jesse http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-42112 Jesse Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:32:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-42112 dude is kina crazy dude is kina crazy

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]]> By: Razzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-42083 Razzle Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:29:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-42083 If he fights anything like how he's been fighting in the UFC, he WILL beat Wanderlei. Silva doesn't seem to be as sharp as he was in his pride days. On the other hand, Rampage seems to have improved greatly. I just don't want Rampage to be pushed into any corners. If Juanito screwed him over then he could go to hell. If not, he's ok. I just want to hear more on his road to recovery, and why he would split with the people he valued so greatly. Everyone is dying to see Rampage whoop ass, but his needs come first. If he fights anything like how he’s been fighting in the UFC, he WILL beat Wanderlei. Silva doesn’t seem to be as sharp as he was in his pride days. On the other hand, Rampage seems to have improved greatly. I just don’t want Rampage to be pushed into any corners. If Juanito screwed him over then he could go to hell. If not, he’s ok. I just want to hear more on his road to recovery, and why he would split with the people he valued so greatly.

Everyone is dying to see Rampage whoop ass, but his needs come first.

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]]> By: j http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-42082 j Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:22:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-42082 Rampage needs to go back to Colin Oyama. The reason they split originally was that Rampage pulled a "religious experience" and didn't eat before a fight. As many people have mentioned, Colin ripped him a new one in the ring during his lackluster performance. Now people should understand why Colin was so harsh on him. Colin is a tough but fair coach, but at this point that is what Rampage needs. Juanito was too involved in all of Rampage's affairs (financially) and I would guess that is what caused the riff. Rampage needs to go back to Colin Oyama. The reason they split originally was that Rampage pulled a “religious experience” and didn’t eat before a fight. As many people have mentioned, Colin ripped him a new one in the ring during his lackluster performance. Now people should understand why Colin was so harsh on him. Colin is a tough but fair coach, but at this point that is what Rampage needs.

Juanito was too involved in all of Rampage’s affairs (financially) and I would guess that is what caused the riff.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-42077 darkmetal Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:16:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-42077 Ultmma, so fighting Wanderlei is hard, but a rematch with Liddell would be easy? How so? Any way you cut it, to put Rampage against a chump is playing the same kind of game as EliteXC is playing with Kimbo Slice. Further, it would be a slap in Rampage's face to treat him like he is a newbie. You have to give Dana White some credit, he isn't playing nice with any of his fighters, he puts them against real competition. Anything less and people will call "Foul!!". Ultmma, so fighting Wanderlei is hard, but a rematch with Liddell would be easy? How so?

Any way you cut it, to put Rampage against a chump is playing the same kind of game as EliteXC is playing with Kimbo Slice. Further, it would be a slap in Rampage’s face to treat him like he is a newbie.

You have to give Dana White some credit, he isn’t playing nice with any of his fighters, he puts them against real competition. Anything less and people will call “Foul!!”.

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]]> By: CDF47 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-42076 CDF47 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:12:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-42076 I wish Quinton the best and I hope for a quick recovery from what he has gone through. I can not wait to see Rampage back in the cage when he is ready. November may or may not be too soon. Only Quinton can decide that but when he does return I look forward to seeing him back in top form to get his title back from Griffin. I wish Quinton the best and I hope for a quick recovery from what he has gone through. I can not wait to see Rampage back in the cage when he is ready. November may or may not be too soon. Only Quinton can decide that but when he does return I look forward to seeing him back in top form to get his title back from Griffin.

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]]> By: TheSomberlain http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-42072 TheSomberlain Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:37:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-42072 Everytime a fight doesn't go a particular way, everyone winds up shouting that a fix is at hand. I can't even count how many people were crying about a fix in the Forrest vs. Rampage fight. The bottom line is the guy is human, he can be beat (and I think Silva, Rua, and Griffin will testify to this as well). Back to the subject at hand, I wonder what made him split Juanito. It seems everytime he gets his ass kicked he drops all his management (Remember how he dropped everyone and picked up Juanito after Rua defeated him?). He seemed to take the loss with integrity in the post-fight interview with Griffin but it seems that was just a veil. Anyways, Rampage is too goddamn stubborn he will lose the same exact way did before, TWICE. Let's just hope we see the Wanderlei that knocked Jardine into another reality. Muay Thai clinch all day. Peace guys. Everytime a fight doesn’t go a particular way, everyone winds up shouting that a fix is at hand. I can’t even count how many people were crying about a fix in the Forrest vs. Rampage fight. The bottom line is the guy is human, he can be beat (and I think Silva, Rua, and Griffin will testify to this as well). Back to the subject at hand, I wonder what made him split Juanito. It seems everytime he gets his ass kicked he drops all his management (Remember how he dropped everyone and picked up Juanito after Rua defeated him?). He seemed to take the loss with integrity in the post-fight interview with Griffin but it seems that was just a veil. Anyways, Rampage is too goddamn stubborn he will lose the same exact way did before, TWICE. Let’s just hope we see the Wanderlei that knocked Jardine into another reality. Muay Thai clinch all day. Peace guys.

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]]> By: ultmma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-42069 ultmma Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:33:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-42069 Hey rampage you just had a complete mental breakdown and part ways with your head trainer.....yeah now sounds like a great time to jump back in the ring with Wandy??? are you freaking kidding , can the guy get a warm up fight? or at least put off the bout to early 2009 This like Mir getting in a motor cycle accident and his first fight back is against Fedor lol Dude Wandy is hungry do not feed Rampage to him give Rampage Chuck when he comes back and watch him beat the iceman for the 3rd straight time lol Hey rampage

you just had a complete mental breakdown and part ways with your head trainer…..yeah now sounds like a great time to jump back in the ring with Wandy???

are you freaking kidding , can the guy get a warm up fight? or at least put off the bout to early 2009

This like Mir getting in a motor cycle accident and his first fight back is against Fedor lol

Dude Wandy is hungry do not feed Rampage to him

give Rampage Chuck when he comes back and watch him beat the iceman for the 3rd straight time lol

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]]> By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-42015 joetheacupuncturist Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:55:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-42015 Wandi always recieved "special" treatment from PRIDE thats nothing new. The Gross article is downright scary nuts. sounds like 'page is the crazy old lady from LADYKILLERS Wandi always recieved “special” treatment from PRIDE thats nothing new. The Gross article is downright scary nuts. sounds like ‘page is the crazy old lady from LADYKILLERS

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]]> By: portland mma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41979 portland mma Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:57:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41979 does this seem like a really bad idea to anyone else? does this seem like a really bad idea to anyone else?

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]]> By: MMA SKOOL™ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41975 MMA SKOOL™ Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:59:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41975 As I remember, those PRIDE fights with Wanderlei looked thrown. One of em looked extremely suspect, but I can't remember which one. Even after I saw those fights and was already skeptical, I remember hearing that Rampage mentioned 'they' asked him to throw some fights... Wouldn't surprise me if that was a hint that he did actually throw some fights. (Watch them again for yourself.) Will be nice to see them fight a real fight. That's a good matchup. As I remember, those PRIDE fights with Wanderlei looked thrown. One of em looked extremely suspect, but I can’t remember which one. Even after I saw those fights and was already skeptical, I remember hearing that Rampage mentioned ‘they’ asked him to throw some fights… Wouldn’t surprise me if that was a hint that he did actually throw some fights. (Watch them again for yourself.)

Will be nice to see them fight a real fight. That’s a good matchup.

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]]> By: Panama http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41974 Panama Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:38:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41974 If any of you watched Rampage's ESPN interview after the weigh ins for the Griffin fight, Rampage looked really screwed up. His eyes blinked in slow motion and he said it was because of his cutting weight, but really, was it? He looked messed up. Im not saying drugs but he didnt look right. If any of you watched Rampage’s ESPN interview after the weigh ins for the Griffin fight, Rampage looked really screwed up. His eyes blinked in slow motion and he said it was because of his cutting weight, but really, was it?

He looked messed up. Im not saying drugs but he didnt look right.

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]]> By: Handover Fist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41972 Handover Fist Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:21:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41972 Hopefully this guy gets someone close to him that sees something other then dollar signs when they look at him. Jackson has always been a hard guy to figure out. How much of how he acts and what he says is just being a clown and how much is a guy a that might be a couple fries short of a happy meal. Based on his latest actions, I think its safe to say he probably has some mental issues that need to be addressed. It might be best for him if he never steps into the cage again, unfortunately I'm sure all those people he crashed into already have lawyers and back problems that will drain his coffers, so getting back into the cage to support his ever growing family is probably a forgone conclusion whether its in the best interest of his mental heath or not. Hopefully this guy gets someone close to him that sees something other then dollar signs when they look at him.

Jackson has always been a hard guy to figure out. How much of how he acts and what he says is just being a clown and how much is a guy a that might be a couple fries short of a happy meal. Based on his latest actions, I think its safe to say he probably has some mental issues that need to be addressed.

It might be best for him if he never steps into the cage again, unfortunately I’m sure all those people he crashed into already have lawyers and back problems that will drain his coffers, so getting back into the cage to support his ever growing family is probably a forgone conclusion whether its in the best interest of his mental heath or not.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41971 darkmetal Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:10:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41971 Sometimes the best medicine for a fighter is to fight again; the psychology is something that non-fighters do not understand. The average person thinks you have to sit on the beach and chill, but to a fighter, that time is spent thinking "What if I had done..." and replaying your loss over and over. Depending on who trains Rampage, he can come back and does have it in him to win against Wanderlei. If you have become champion once, you can do it again. And no man is unbeatable, period. We did not see the best Rampage when he fought Forrest. We must support his path, and know that at the very least, he is a great guy. He is certainly weighing his actions as he recovers, and that alone must be very hard. God bless Rampage, may he rise like a Phoenix and become the man he was once again. Sometimes the best medicine for a fighter is to fight again; the psychology is something that non-fighters do not understand. The average person thinks you have to sit on the beach and chill, but to a fighter, that time is spent thinking “What if I had done…” and replaying your loss over and over.

Depending on who trains Rampage, he can come back and does have it in him to win against Wanderlei. If you have become champion once, you can do it again. And no man is unbeatable, period.

We did not see the best Rampage when he fought Forrest. We must support his path, and know that at the very least, he is a great guy. He is certainly weighing his actions as he recovers, and that alone must be very hard.

God bless Rampage, may he rise like a Phoenix and become the man he was once again.

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]]> By: Mark Aulet http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41967 Mark Aulet Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:34:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41967 Can we center the articles on the site more. Looking left or right isn't friendly on the eyes. Can we center the articles on the site more. Looking left or right isn’t friendly on the eyes.

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]]> By: fightfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41966 fightfan Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:30:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41966 Sorry for double And is that a punishment for Rampage???? After all his mental issues and troubles, is it really a good idea to put him against the guy that kneed the living shit out of him TWICE for his first fight back?? For someone having mentall problems....Putting him against a guy that probably brings back some ugly mental pictures is NOT a good idea!!!! Sorry for double

And is that a punishment for Rampage???? After all his mental issues and troubles, is it really a good idea to put him against the guy that kneed the living shit out of him TWICE for his first fight back??

For someone having mentall problems….Putting him against a guy that probably brings back some ugly mental pictures is NOT a good idea!!!!

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]]> By: fightfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41965 fightfan Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:28:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41965 Props on SI.com for FINALLY getting an update on Rampage. Props go out the FIRST one to hear from Juanito ansd what he has to say. That will be a good interview!!! Props on SI.com for FINALLY getting an update on Rampage. Props go out the FIRST one to hear from Juanito ansd what he has to say. That will be a good interview!!!

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]]> By: MJC_123 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41963 MJC_123 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:48:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41963 I don't see what the big deal is about fighting Wanderlei...Yes I have seen the beat-downs, Silva gave Jackson in Pride and remember wincing at the time BUT if his mental health does sort itself out and importantly his medical team give him the all clear and the UFC get news of this from Quinton himself then a fight against Wanderlei makes perfect sense. What do you want too do? Feed him a few cans because he had a mental breakdown? I am a huge Jackson fan like the rest of you, but if your fit enough to stand in the cage you should fight the best. If hes not mentally fit/sound or proper he shouldn't be fighting at all...A loss to Wanderlei would look alot better on his resume than a loss to a C-Caliber fighter. Wanderlei offers many avenues for Rampage, a chance for redemption, a big fight without the pressure of being the champ, proof that the UFC are supporting him regardless of his criminal misdemeanours, and a victory puts him right back in the title frame. A loss makes Wanderlei the no.1 contender thats for sure. I don’t see what the big deal is about fighting Wanderlei…Yes I have seen the beat-downs, Silva gave Jackson in Pride and remember wincing at the time BUT if his mental health does sort itself out and importantly his medical team give him the all clear and the UFC get news of this from Quinton himself then a fight against Wanderlei makes perfect sense.

What do you want too do? Feed him a few cans because he had a mental breakdown? I am a huge Jackson fan like the rest of you, but if your fit enough to stand in the cage you should fight the best.

If hes not mentally fit/sound or proper he shouldn’t be fighting at all…A loss to Wanderlei would look alot better on his resume than a loss to a C-Caliber fighter.

Wanderlei offers many avenues for Rampage, a chance for redemption, a big fight without the pressure of being the champ, proof that the UFC are supporting him regardless of his criminal misdemeanours, and a victory puts him right back in the title frame.

A loss makes Wanderlei the no.1 contender thats for sure.

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]]> By: doubleA-ron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41960 doubleA-ron Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:18:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41960 the axe murderer will win this fight and then take on forrest to become the champ the axe murderer will win this fight and then take on forrest to become the champ

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]]> By: Shrug http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/07/29/report-rampage-jackson-splits-with-juanito-ibarra-ufc-looking-towards-november-fight-with-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-41957 Shrug Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:50:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4481#comment-41957 The new site design is pretty iffy... At least it isn't all MMA Junkie and death like. The new site design is pretty iffy… At least it isn’t all MMA Junkie and death like.

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