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	<title>Comments on: 5 Oz. Feature: New leadership to come to the forefront for ProElite and EliteXC</title>
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		<title>By: AdiamondSoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdiamondSoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the october show will better. It&#039;s been planned already AND remember, they were expecting the ratings on present one, it&#039;s summer and most of the shows last saturday went down in ratings. Plus CBS didn&#039;t promote as much. Given those the card wasn&#039;t unsuccessful really. It was a great card. Lots of work went into it. DeLuca and the fight team heard the fans and also pull together a great event. The next one will be actually way higher in ratings than the very first one. Mark my words. The seeds have been planted already. The direction has been taken. It&#039;s up to the fight and production team to continue moving in the direction they planned for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the october show will better. It&#8217;s been planned already AND remember, they were expecting the ratings on present one, it&#8217;s summer and most of the shows last saturday went down in ratings. Plus CBS didn&#8217;t promote as much. Given those the card wasn&#8217;t unsuccessful really. It was a great card. Lots of work went into it. DeLuca and the fight team heard the fans and also pull together a great event. The next one will be actually way higher in ratings than the very first one. Mark my words. The seeds have been planted already. The direction has been taken. It&#8217;s up to the fight and production team to continue moving in the direction they planned for.</p>
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		<title>By: ultmma</title>
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		<dc:creator>ultmma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Elite is dead in the water yet. 

Pros : 2 major stars to the casual fan, a handful of fighters with MMA purist cred, and Showtime/CBS deals

Cons: no depth at any weight class, needs to develop more stars that can headline ASAP, and that whole &quot;debt&quot; thing they have to take care of. 

If, their October 4th show pulls a bigger number than their May 31st card than I think they will be all right.

If, they fall on their face again you can probably stick a fork in them. 

A mediocre show just may give them enough juice to fall on their face when they try to do a PPV. 

As of right now I just to see the match-ups they could make that could get them over the 100 K PPV buy rate hump with a mix that draws the hardcore and casual audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Elite is dead in the water yet. </p>
<p>Pros : 2 major stars to the casual fan, a handful of fighters with MMA purist cred, and Showtime/CBS deals</p>
<p>Cons: no depth at any weight class, needs to develop more stars that can headline ASAP, and that whole &#8220;debt&#8221; thing they have to take care of. </p>
<p>If, their October 4th show pulls a bigger number than their May 31st card than I think they will be all right.</p>
<p>If, they fall on their face again you can probably stick a fork in them. </p>
<p>A mediocre show just may give them enough juice to fall on their face when they try to do a PPV. </p>
<p>As of right now I just to see the match-ups they could make that could get them over the 100 K PPV buy rate hump with a mix that draws the hardcore and casual audience.</p>
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		<title>By: J-Hawker</title>
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		<dc:creator>J-Hawker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always liked Shaw,he seems like a good guy to me but no matter who&#039;s in charge of Elite,I hope they survive and can turn a profit.They&#039;re doing great things for the sport and fighters, and I&#039;ve watched and enjoyed all their events on Showtime,CBS and some on Proelite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always liked Shaw,he seems like a good guy to me but no matter who&#8217;s in charge of Elite,I hope they survive and can turn a profit.They&#8217;re doing great things for the sport and fighters, and I&#8217;ve watched and enjoyed all their events on Showtime,CBS and some on Proelite.</p>
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		<title>By: AdiamondSoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdiamondSoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deluca, who is still involved with some operations was who brought Showtime to ProElite. During the negotiations, Showtime brought Gary Shaw. DeLuca had other obligations but was asked to step up as a CEO. However, he continue to work for JKL and other productions of his. DeLuca was also the main person in the negotiation with CBS. And it somehow continues to be. DeLuca continues to be a founder member and was part of the decision making process that resulted in the resignation of not only Shaw, bu also other founding members such as Brendlinger and Marshall. Giving way to the team that should and could bring the company to the next level. 

When ProElite was formed, they knew they were going to take a loss in order to get to the space. They also knew that eventually the team needed to change to take to the next level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deluca, who is still involved with some operations was who brought Showtime to ProElite. During the negotiations, Showtime brought Gary Shaw. DeLuca had other obligations but was asked to step up as a CEO. However, he continue to work for JKL and other productions of his. DeLuca was also the main person in the negotiation with CBS. And it somehow continues to be. DeLuca continues to be a founder member and was part of the decision making process that resulted in the resignation of not only Shaw, bu also other founding members such as Brendlinger and Marshall. Giving way to the team that should and could bring the company to the next level. </p>
<p>When ProElite was formed, they knew they were going to take a loss in order to get to the space. They also knew that eventually the team needed to change to take to the next level.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if they are going to add Tito to their leadership operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if they are going to add Tito to their leadership operations.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No mention of Terry Trebilcock taking over for Shaw?
Would this not be a good fit considering how successful KOTC has been over the history of NA MMA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of Terry Trebilcock taking over for Shaw?<br />
Would this not be a good fit considering how successful KOTC has been over the history of NA MMA?</p>
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		<title>By: aaronb</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the first EXC show in Southaven MS, and had a great time. I got to meet Shaw and thought he was an alright guy. I never really understood where all the bile for him came from? He put his own money on the line to try and better the sport. He brought MMA to regular TV. I can&#039;t help but wonder if people hate him just because he doesn&#039;t shave his head and drop 20 F-Bombs per hour?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the first EXC show in Southaven MS, and had a great time. I got to meet Shaw and thought he was an alright guy. I never really understood where all the bile for him came from? He put his own money on the line to try and better the sport. He brought MMA to regular TV. I can&#8217;t help but wonder if people hate him just because he doesn&#8217;t shave his head and drop 20 F-Bombs per hour?</p>
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