Comments on: EliteXC middleweight picture could include Shields

By: patrick

patrick — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:06:09 +0000

GSP has yet to successfully defend his title so i personally can’t put him in the same category as Anderson Silva who has defended his title six times(i think).
GSP=great fighter
Anderson Silva=phenom

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By: Warcry

Warcry — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:12:18 +0000

There is a reason he is not in the Ufc yet. You put Condit in this category as well their career’s have not progress to that level yet. When you talk about Gsp and Anderson Silva you’re talking about the top of the food chain not the middle or near the top but the apex in MMA. Dude is not on that level.

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By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:39:55 +0000

^^^ What Rich S. said.

And to add more, I notice you failed to say anything about Charuto, who lost a controversial decision to Matt Hughes when Hughes was in his prime, and Okami, who’s generally thought of by most as the only legit contender left for Anderson at 185.

But whatever. Keep on stating absolutes if it makes you happy. I don’t care.

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By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:23:31 +0000

first of all,
Sak’s not overrated.. He’s beaten the likes of Aoki, Danzig, Hansen, Pulver, Trigg, and Uno.. to call him overrated is stupid..

and second of all,
Condit takes on the top in his division [that the WEC has to offer] and makes them look stupid.. Brock Larson CRUSHED competition to get his shot at Condit, and when he got it, he was made to look like a fool..

if there’s any reason Condit’s not getting worthy competition, it’s because he’s already destroyed what they had to offer..

just because people are in smaller organizations doesn’t mean their skill is any lower..

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By: Warcry

Warcry — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:53:13 +0000

I’m sorry I didn’t realize Dave Menne a washed up former champ counted as a notable conquest and Sakurai is highly overrated and Condit has not taken on worthy competition. Shields cannot put himself on the level with Gsp and Anderson after beating Thompson whose major contribution is that stupid neckbeard.

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By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:49:36 +0000

“(i.e. Chuck Liddell going to Pride and getting THRASHED)”

i hate it when people bring up “UFC’s fighters being so much worse than PRIDE’s were”

you can’t say Chuck got “THRASHED” in PRIDE, because aside from losing to Rampage, he Knocked Out Alistair Overeem and Guy Metzger..

i know that’s off topic but it urks me..

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By: patrick

patrick — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:42:57 +0000

these guys FIGHT for a living. It’s easy to call any organization that isn’t the UFC “the minor leagues” but it’s FAR from the truth. the truth is no matter what venue you fight in there is always going to someone across the ring(or cage) looking to destroy you. It’s a cop-out to call these guys “scrubs” when all they do is train for 8 hours plus a day and all you do is sit on your computer eat potato chips and typing in forums about your UFC man-crush. I’d like to see these UFC zombies get in the ring and try to bang it out with these “scrubs”. The fact is if the reason UFC won’t co-promote is because they don’t want to see their best fighters get tapped-out or KO’d(i.e. Chuck Liddell going to Pride and getting THRASHED). ufc WANTS to keep the ILLUSION, that their fighters are the best, going as long as you guys eat it up.

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By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:32:57 +0000

@Warcry

Riiiiiiight. You’re really showing your ignorance.

Never mind that he has quality wins over Sakurai, Okami, Condit, Charuto, Menne and just dismantled the Goat, who is a quality fighter in his own right. Of course he’s a minor league fighter and has no chance against GSP and Silva. Silly me.

/sarcasm

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By: Warcry

Warcry — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:20:39 +0000

Whoever thinks Shields would give Gsp or Anderson Silva a run for their money is crazy,unhinged , off his rocker pick one. He’s good in the minor leagues with the other scrubs but, he would get bang out in the Ufc

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By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:59:10 +0000

ya, i wouldn’t even mind if he went to WEC.. i just don’t like him in the EXC for some reason.. he seems too good for the other fighters.. although, i REALLY thought Fickett could give him a run for his money.. that would’ve been a great fight.. but.. it’s obviously not going to happen..

and on the thought of him going to MW, yes, it might open a few more matches up for him.. but, at the end of the day.. he would be right back in the same situation.. who would he fight? Lawler, Villasenor, Ninja? not Shammy, and probably not Cung Le.. that’s all the MW division in the EXC has to offer a good matchup..

he really needs to go UFC.. if not, i would be happy with him in WEC.. i mean, Shields/Condit, Shields/Larson, Shields/Miura, etc.. those all sound grrrrrreat..

i’m sure we’ll see it happen soon enough.. maybe after one title defense..

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By: Andrew

Andrew — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:42:11 +0000

I love all MMA no matter the org and am no UFC fanboy, but in my opinion, everyone would be better served if Shields could find his way to the UFC: himself, his school, fans of the sport, the UFC, etc.

He’s a true mixed martial artist and I could see a ton of exciting matchups for him in the UFC at WW: GSP, Koscheck, Sanchez, Alves, Karo, etc. And seeing as he doesn’t seem to have any issues moving up, I could even see him giving Anderson Silva a run for his money. He’s *that* good. Just underexposed, IMO.

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By: Joseph

Joseph — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:18:12 +0000

Makes sense and there are tons of fights for Shields at MW.
Lots of good matchups.

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