Comments on: Randy Couture suffers another legal defeat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 11:06:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Ken http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42875 Ken Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:16:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42875 Mike: more likely: " i want my f 'ing mother****ing hat back, u f ' ing mother****er." at least if he was in pulp fiction mode. he really did call. Mike:

more likely:

” i want my f ‘ing mother****ing hat back, u f ‘ ing mother****er.”

at least if he was in pulp fiction mode.

he really did call.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42835 Mike Wolfe Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:04:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42835 Ken: If Samuel L. Jackson really called, he'd say he wanted the mother****ing hat back, mother****er. Ken:

If Samuel L. Jackson really called, he’d say he wanted the mother****ing hat back, mother****er.

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]]> By: Ken http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42805 Ken Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:50:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42805 P.S. Dear Randy, Samuel Jackson called. Wants the hat back. P.S.

Dear Randy,

Samuel Jackson called. Wants the hat back.

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]]> By: Simon http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42705 Simon Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:28:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42705 Randy asked for and received everything his contract stated. If I remember correctly, He drew it up hisself. Randy caught the hollywood bug sometime last year and bit the hand that fed him. Randy is a God in this sport but when you start acting like your shit dont stink you lose a little bit of your credibility. Randy asked for and received everything his contract stated. If I remember correctly, He drew it up hisself. Randy caught the hollywood bug sometime last year and bit the hand that fed him. Randy is a God in this sport but when you start acting like your shit dont stink you lose a little bit of your credibility.

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]]> By: Kyle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42693 Kyle Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:15:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42693 It would be easier if Randy just finish his contract, he is really dragging this out. I honestly think if he is afraid of fighting Noguiera and finishing his contract. A loss in either of those two contracted fights kills any build-up or momentum with his fight against Fedor. It would be easier if Randy just finish his contract, he is really dragging this out. I honestly think if he is afraid of fighting Noguiera and finishing his contract. A loss in either of those two contracted fights kills any build-up or momentum with his fight against Fedor.

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]]> By: Chunk_33 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42688 Chunk_33 Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:57:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42688 From what i can see -Randy owes the UFC. hate to say it. - white/zuffa don't care about what's good for mma, just want to control it and make bank. -i read somewhere Fedor said he will NOT fight in a cage but not why. don't know if it's true. probably doesn't want to be dana's errand boy. - Randy can train all he wants but he needs real matches to stay at his best. From what i can see -Randy owes the UFC. hate to say it. – white/zuffa don’t care about what’s good for mma, just want to control it and make bank. -i read somewhere Fedor said he will NOT fight in a cage but not why. don’t know if it’s true. probably doesn’t want to be dana’s errand boy. – Randy can train all he wants but he needs real matches to stay at his best.

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]]> By: Ken http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42632 Ken Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:52:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42632 these guys need to figure this out in arbitration, and get on with it. seems like Zuffa has the upper hand here. maybe Randy needs to buck up and just go back to the UFC for now. hopefully in arbitration, Randy can get more money, or at least a part of what he wants. the fact that Zuffa is entering arbitration is indicative of their willingness to give up something. these guys need to figure this out in arbitration, and get on with it. seems like Zuffa has the upper hand here. maybe Randy needs to buck up and just go back to the UFC for now. hopefully in arbitration, Randy can get more money, or at least a part of what he wants. the fact that Zuffa is entering arbitration is indicative of their willingness to give up something.

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]]> By: scott http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42619 scott Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:28:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42619 What was Randy thinking. Did he not have lawyers read and expalain the contract he signed with Zuffa to him? Why didn't he ride the contract out, then go else where. I like Randy, but the UFC has done nothing contractually wrong. Randy used his heart rather than his head to react to what he felt was mistreatment by the UFC (Dana) and now he is paying for it. What was Randy thinking. Did he not have lawyers read and expalain the contract he signed with Zuffa to him? Why didn’t he ride the contract out, then go else where. I like Randy, but the UFC has done nothing contractually wrong. Randy used his heart rather than his head to react to what he felt was mistreatment by the UFC (Dana) and now he is paying for it.

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]]> By: Voridor http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42608 Voridor Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:19:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42608 Let this be a lesson to us all. Never wear a goofy looking hat and suit coat to a press release to the media. Terrible photo. Let this be a lesson to us all. Never wear a goofy looking hat and suit coat to a press release to the media. Terrible photo.

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]]> By: clinton http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42602 clinton Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:09:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42602 It's crap that the UFC are doing this to Randy, let the guy use his talent instead of wasting his time Dana... It’s crap that the UFC are doing this to Randy, let the guy use his talent instead of wasting his time Dana…

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42582 stevefiji Sun, 03 Aug 2008 03:45:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42582 Randy vs. Fedor in the UFC July 4th 2009.... At the Rose Bowl....Book it! Randy will lose against Zuffa in court. Fedor will take out the winner of AA vs. Barnett. The Slayer/Megadeath/Metallica/Ozzy reunion tours will all be used up by Affliction II, III and IV as well as any remaining investor cash reserves (and admit it, don't we all KNOW that The Donald has never and will never invest a penny of his own money in this fiasco). Dana will have his day, WAMMA will be PHI SLAMMA JAMMA IN THE TRASH CANNA! and the world WILL have unified and recognized champions for the next 10 years or more... and that is what's best for MMA. The more equitable distribution of money will surely come for the fighters, they will have their day, but MMA absolutely MUST avoid the crap that took down boxing and one belt and one collective brand is the best path. Randy vs. Fedor in the UFC July 4th 2009…. At the Rose Bowl….Book it!

Randy will lose against Zuffa in court. Fedor will take out the winner of AA vs. Barnett. The Slayer/Megadeath/Metallica/Ozzy reunion tours will all be used up by Affliction II, III and IV as well as any remaining investor cash reserves (and admit it, don’t we all KNOW that The Donald has never and will never invest a penny of his own money in this fiasco).

Dana will have his day, WAMMA will be PHI SLAMMA JAMMA IN THE TRASH CANNA! and the world WILL have unified and recognized champions for the next 10 years or more… and that is what’s best for MMA.

The more equitable distribution of money will surely come for the fighters, they will have their day, but MMA absolutely MUST avoid the crap that took down boxing and one belt and one collective brand is the best path.

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]]> By: Jeremy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42568 Jeremy Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:53:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42568 Blaze, It is a defeat for Randy as he wants the Texas courts to decide things, not the Nevada courts. The decision is what Zuffa wanted: For Texas courts to pretty much defer to the Nevada courts. Cuban and Couture were hoping for a fast track in Texas. As Wolf surmised, Zuffa and Couture are currently in arbitration. Blaze,
It is a defeat for Randy as he wants the Texas courts to decide things, not the Nevada courts.

The decision is what Zuffa wanted: For Texas courts to pretty much defer to the Nevada courts.

Cuban and Couture were hoping for a fast track in Texas.

As Wolf surmised, Zuffa and Couture are currently in arbitration.

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]]> By: BlazeHoliday http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42560 BlazeHoliday Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:12:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42560 Why did 5oz use a stupid name for this headline???? It's not a defeat... all the judge did was uphold the current judgement. It might be a moral defeat seeing all the UFC is trying to do now is let this thing ride out in courts till Randy is to old to compete. Randy should just wait till Oct 11th then fight Fedor ASAP and let them try to come after him for it. If the contract is that clear then he can fight and win against them... And then take them to civil court and wins some money! LOL Why did 5oz use a stupid name for this headline???? It’s not a defeat… all the judge did was uphold the current judgement. It might be a moral defeat seeing all the UFC is trying to do now is let this thing ride out in courts till Randy is to old to compete.

Randy should just wait till Oct 11th then fight Fedor ASAP and let them try to come after him for it. If the contract is that clear then he can fight and win against them… And then take them to civil court and wins some money! LOL

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42556 mike wolfe Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:04:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42556 So keep watching the blogs. I would expect some announcement that the parties are planning a settlement conference or a mediation, which is pretty close to the same thing. There's too much at stake for both sides to fool around with more expensive litigation, which could take years and bales of cash with possible appeals. So keep watching the blogs. I would expect some announcement that the parties are planning a settlement conference or a mediation, which is pretty close to the same thing. There’s too much at stake for both sides to fool around with more expensive litigation, which could take years and bales of cash with possible appeals.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42555 mike wolfe Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:58:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42555 The Texas lawsuit was an interesting move, but UFC filed first in Nevada where the contract was signed. It's fairly common for contracts to state that the a particular state court in a particular county is the location where any dispute has to be filed. I have no idea whether the UFC agreements have those kinds of clauses, but they're very common, and they're usually enforced. I'm not surprised the Texas court said "no thanks." Courts don't appreciate transparent attempts to shop for a more favorable location. It sort of insults them by suggesting they're predisposed to rule for one party rather than listening with an open mind. The Texas lawsuit was an interesting move, but UFC filed first in Nevada where the contract was signed. It’s fairly common for contracts to state that the a particular state court in a particular county is the location where any dispute has to be filed. I have no idea whether the UFC agreements have those kinds of clauses, but they’re very common, and they’re usually enforced. I’m not surprised the Texas court said “no thanks.” Courts don’t appreciate transparent attempts to shop for a more favorable location. It sort of insults them by suggesting they’re predisposed to rule for one party rather than listening with an open mind.

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]]> By: kirby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42546 kirby Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:40:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42546 On Inside MMA Randy said all he wants to do is to fight Fedor and he would even do it in the UFC. That statement makes me wonder if he thinks that he is going to loose the court case. I think he's probably just tired of the whole thing but still it could be the start of a change of heart. On Inside MMA Randy said all he wants to do is to fight Fedor and he would even do it in the UFC. That statement makes me wonder if he thinks that he is going to loose the court case. I think he’s probably just tired of the whole thing but still it could be the start of a change of heart.

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]]> By: Justin B http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42530 Justin B Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:46:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42530 Yeah he needs to get fighting because fighters can get old in between rounds. Yeah he needs to get fighting because fighters can get old in between rounds.

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42522 Jackyl Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:21:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42522 It may have been a bad decision to drag things out in this manner. He could have just fought his last two fights by now and be ready to go elsewhere. I realize it may have been about principle but with him being in the twilight of his career he needs to do all he can to get the fights he wants and then get out. It may have been a bad decision to drag things out in this manner. He could have just fought his last two fights by now and be ready to go elsewhere. I realize it may have been about principle but with him being in the twilight of his career he needs to do all he can to get the fights he wants and then get out.

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]]> By: Justin B http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42520 Justin B Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:16:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42520 Sounds like the UFC has couture by the balls. Especially with that champions clause on top of having two fights left on his contract. I hope Couture wins his case and we see Fedor vs Couture in another promotion besides the UFC. I think it would be good for the sport to have a super fight like this to help solidify another promotion. I like the UFC but they need some serious competition to help this sport move forward Sounds like the UFC has couture by the balls. Especially with that champions clause on top of having two fights left on his contract. I hope Couture wins his case and we see Fedor vs Couture in another promotion besides the UFC. I think it would be good for the sport to have a super fight like this to help solidify another promotion. I like the UFC but they need some serious competition to help this sport move forward

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]]> By: Jo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/02/randy-couture-suffers-another-legal-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-42519 Jo Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:13:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4770#comment-42519 How long can they drag this thing out? Hopefully we will have a resolution soon and we will be able to see the FIGHT. How long can they drag this thing out? Hopefully we will have a resolution soon and we will be able to see the FIGHT.

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