Comments on: WEC 35 Quick Results http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 11:06:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42732 Rich S. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:59:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42732 Jolly, i didn't really think it was fixed.. i will never think an MMA bout was fixed.. that was just a bad expression of my emotions.. but, clearly, in the replays after the fight ended, you see a part where Miura's throwing punches and just falls, without getting punched or tripped or anything, and Condit just drops on him, and squirms his way easily into mount.. and aside from that one, it happened two other times i believe.. Jolly, i didn’t really think it was fixed.. i will never think an MMA bout was fixed.. that was just a bad expression of my emotions..

but, clearly, in the replays after the fight ended, you see a part where Miura’s throwing punches and just falls, without getting punched or tripped or anything, and Condit just drops on him, and squirms his way easily into mount..

and aside from that one, it happened two other times i believe..

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]]> By: Justin B http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42726 Justin B Mon, 04 Aug 2008 07:04:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42726 Condit took this guy a little light. great fight though. Condit needs to stick in the WEC for a while. Condit took this guy a little light. great fight though. Condit needs to stick in the WEC for a while.

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]]> By: batman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42721 batman Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:04:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42721 I think condit would fit better in the 185 lb division, he is too skinny for 170 because he is 6 foot 2. I think condit would fit better in the 185 lb division, he is too skinny for 170 because he is 6 foot 2.

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]]> By: Warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42718 Warcry Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:03:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42718 Could Condit compete( not on purpose) in the Ufc. Sure he could. My point is he would only be mid level at best in the Welterweight division. I break it down for you. 1 Gsp would destroy him 2 Fitch would dominate him 3 Koscheck would own him 4 Alves would bang him out. 5 Hughes would finish him 6 Had real problems with those Judo throws so Parisyan would punish him 7 Chris Lylte would defeat him. Dude there you have it Could Condit compete( not on purpose) in the Ufc. Sure he could. My point is he would only be mid level at best in the Welterweight division. I break it down for you.
1 Gsp would destroy him
2 Fitch would dominate him
3 Koscheck would own him
4 Alves would bang him out.
5 Hughes would finish him
6 Had real problems with those Judo throws so Parisyan would punish him
7 Chris Lylte would defeat him.

Dude there you have it

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42717 JOe K. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:41:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42717 Every fight but the Grispi fight was top notch. If that fight wouldn't have had that shitty stoppage that fight would have been a war as well. Both those fighters are very atypical style of fighters, it would have been fun to watch. Still this card (at least the televised portion) was unbelievable. I don't know what the WEC feeds these guys but their cards end up being ridiculously awesome. I know they are owned by Zuffa but the WEC is giving the UFC a run for it's money. The production value (in HD) was great. The sound is great, the commentary is so money (not annoying), it's free, the fights time after time are great (legendary, Faber/Pulver, Condit/Muira, Torres/Maeda (my favorite this year))! Where can we view the undercard? Every fight but the Grispi fight was top notch. If that fight wouldn’t have had that shitty stoppage that fight would have been a war as well. Both those fighters are very atypical style of fighters, it would have been fun to watch. Still this card (at least the televised portion) was unbelievable.

I don’t know what the WEC feeds these guys but their cards end up being ridiculously awesome. I know they are owned by Zuffa but the WEC is giving the UFC a run for it’s money. The production value (in HD) was great. The sound is great, the commentary is so money (not annoying), it’s free, the fights time after time are great (legendary, Faber/Pulver, Condit/Muira, Torres/Maeda (my favorite this year))!

Where can we view the undercard?

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]]> By: JollyDV http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42714 JollyDV Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:51:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42714 Rich S. I guess we didn't watch the same fight because I never saw Miura fall to the ground and let Condit mount him. I think the stoppage was ok. Both fighters were exhausted. They fought hard. I don't see how you thought it was "fixed or something.." nor do I understand how you can say that, then follow it with a shout of "GREAT NIGHT OF FIGHTS". Rich S.
I guess we didn’t watch the same fight because I never saw Miura fall to the ground and let Condit mount him.

I think the stoppage was ok. Both fighters were exhausted. They fought hard. I don’t see how you thought it was “fixed or something..” nor do I understand how you can say that, then follow it with a shout of “GREAT NIGHT OF FIGHTS”.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42712 mike wolfe Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:46:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42712 Great fights. Miura gave Condit the toughest fight of his career. I think Condit could compete in UFC, but he'd face fighters of Miura's caliber more frequently. One of the best fights this year, imo. Great fights. Miura gave Condit the toughest fight of his career. I think Condit could compete in UFC, but he’d face fighters of Miura’s caliber more frequently. One of the best fights this year, imo.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42710 Rich S. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:41:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42710 ya, sam, but he's only on the ground/not complaining because he lost his gas in the 2nd, and it ended in the 4th.. i'm sure HE's not mad about the stoppage.. but there was plenty of better times to stop it during that fight, and he didn't.. so to stop it there was stupid to me.. plus, a good look at the clock would've inclined josh to let it go a little longer.. i know Condit's good.. but, frankly, i wanted him to lose.. but, that's not why i thought it was a bogus stoppage.. stopping it when Miura was mounted/side mounted taked repeated elbows and strikes to the face, that's a justified stoppage, but when Miura's holding on to Carlos' leg trying to wait out the round?? that's garbage.. i think a rematch is only right, seeing as how there's only one other WW that can challenge Carlos anyway.. give Miura one fight.. give Larson the Condit fight.. when Condit wins, give Miura the rematch.. that's how i see it.. i still don't understand why every time Miura started to get the upperhand on the feet, he just fell to the ground and LET Condit mount him.. it's like this crap is fixed or something.. idk.. GREAT NIGHT OF FIGHTS.. ya, sam, but he’s only on the ground/not complaining because he lost his gas in the 2nd, and it ended in the 4th.. i’m sure HE’s not mad about the stoppage.. but there was plenty of better times to stop it during that fight, and he didn’t.. so to stop it there was stupid to me.. plus, a good look at the clock would’ve inclined josh to let it go a little longer..

i know Condit’s good.. but, frankly, i wanted him to lose.. but, that’s not why i thought it was a bogus stoppage.. stopping it when Miura was mounted/side mounted taked repeated elbows and strikes to the face, that’s a justified stoppage, but when Miura’s holding on to Carlos’ leg trying to wait out the round?? that’s garbage..

i think a rematch is only right, seeing as how there’s only one other WW that can challenge Carlos anyway..
give Miura one fight.. give Larson the Condit fight..
when Condit wins, give Miura the rematch..

that’s how i see it..

i still don’t understand why every time Miura started to get the upperhand on the feet, he just fell to the ground and LET Condit mount him.. it’s like this crap is fixed or something..

idk..

GREAT NIGHT OF FIGHTS..

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]]> By: victor pacheco http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42709 victor pacheco Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:37:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42709 Does anyone know exact time Marcus Hicks fight started at, I had large wager that was placed late. Does anyone know exact time Marcus Hicks fight started at, I had large wager that was placed late.

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]]> By: JollyDV http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42706 JollyDV Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:31:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42706 Wow, the Condit/Miura fight was good! I thought Miura was finished, then I thought he had it in the bag, then back to Condit almost ending it, and so on....I can't wait to see Miura fight again. Enjoyed all the fights. Nice job WEC. Wow, the Condit/Miura fight was good! I thought Miura was finished, then I thought he had it in the bag, then back to Condit almost ending it, and so on….I can’t wait to see Miura fight again.

Enjoyed all the fights. Nice job WEC.

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]]> By: Adam Morgan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42704 Adam Morgan Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:28:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42704 War, Is that why Condit smashed Alessio and Diego Sanchez struggled against him? Is that why he made Brock Larson look like a clown? Because he's overrated? If anything, the guy is underrated. And Miura is not a joke either. His throws were effortless. If you don't think that Condit could hang with the upper echelon welterweights in the UFC, then I think you're sadly mistaken. I don't think he could beat GSP but he would give Jon Fitch a hell of a fight. War,

Is that why Condit smashed Alessio and Diego Sanchez struggled against him? Is that why he made Brock Larson look like a clown? Because he’s overrated? If anything, the guy is underrated. And Miura is not a joke either. His throws were effortless. If you don’t think that Condit could hang with the upper echelon welterweights in the UFC, then I think you’re sadly mistaken. I don’t think he could beat GSP but he would give Jon Fitch a hell of a fight.

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42703 Patrick Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:27:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42703 Condit vs. Miura.... definitely in the top 10 fights of the year for sure. Condit vs. Miura…. definitely in the top 10 fights of the year for sure.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42702 Sam Caplan Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:25:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42702 Horrible stoppage? I think he's still flat on the mat. C'mon now. Maybe the knee didn't get full impact, but Miura wasn't defending himself and then after the fight was stopped Miura didn't made any case for an early stoppage by not being able to get up. Condit outlasted him. Horrible stoppage? I think he’s still flat on the mat. C’mon now. Maybe the knee didn’t get full impact, but Miura wasn’t defending himself and then after the fight was stopped Miura didn’t made any case for an early stoppage by not being able to get up. Condit outlasted him.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42701 JOe K. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:24:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42701 That Miura was a warrior. I was pissed that he lost! I was hoping he could hold out for another 15 seconds. Grispi won! It sucks that it was a horrible stoppage. Herb Dean pulls the trigger too quickly. I like Rosenthal. This was a crazy awesome card. WEC FOR LIFE!!!!!! Was the undercard televised? That Miura was a warrior. I was pissed that he lost! I was hoping he could hold out for another 15 seconds.

Grispi won! It sucks that it was a horrible stoppage. Herb Dean pulls the trigger too quickly. I like Rosenthal.

This was a crazy awesome card. WEC FOR LIFE!!!!!!

Was the undercard televised?

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]]> By: Jeremy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42700 Jeremy Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:24:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42700 That main event was amazing. Not many folks can hang with Condit, but Miura kept trying. Miura has won a new fan tonight. I can't wait to see him again. That main event was amazing. Not many folks can hang with Condit, but Miura kept trying.

Miura has won a new fan tonight. I can’t wait to see him again.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42699 Rich S. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:24:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42699 i like how Rosenthal didn't stop it a few of the other times where both of the guys were on the verge of conciousness... yet, he chose that time to stop it?? that's absolutely ridiculous.. i know Condit was on his way to a UD victory, but Miura could've definitely had a chance to stop it in the 5th.. man does that stoppage make me mad!!!! see, i have different reasons for not liking fighters.. sometimes, i don't like the way they fight, other times, i don't like how they talk trash.. but in this case, i'm starting not to like Condit, because you don't even need to watch his fights.. you KNOW he's going to win.. call me crazy.. but, Condit's starting to annoy me.. bring him to the UFC, if he wins he wins, if he loses he loses.. i was right when i said Miura would pose WAYYYYY more problems though, i just wish he could've sealed the deal.. i like how Rosenthal didn’t stop it a few of the other times where both of the guys were on the verge of conciousness… yet, he chose that time to stop it?? that’s absolutely ridiculous.. i know Condit was on his way to a UD victory, but Miura could’ve definitely had a chance to stop it in the 5th..

man does that stoppage make me mad!!!!

see, i have different reasons for not liking fighters.. sometimes, i don’t like the way they fight, other times, i don’t like how they talk trash.. but in this case, i’m starting not to like Condit, because you don’t even need to watch his fights.. you KNOW he’s going to win..

call me crazy.. but, Condit’s starting to annoy me.. bring him to the UFC, if he wins he wins, if he loses he loses..

i was right when i said Miura would pose WAYYYYY more problems though, i just wish he could’ve sealed the deal..

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]]> By: Warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42698 Warcry Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:21:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42698 Condit won but Miura was absolutely a samurai-warrior. Condit won but Miura was absolutely a samurai-warrior.

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]]> By: Warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42697 Warcry Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:18:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42697 Condit is proved he is overrated . Miura was slinging him all over the place. Judo throw after Judo throw. It was a clinic. Its easy to be dominate when you're taking on tomato cans. So much for that Ufc talk. He has a long way to go to even make mention of talk of being one of the top welterweights. What a Crappy stoppage!!! Rosenthal should be ashamed!! Condit is proved he is overrated . Miura was slinging him all over the place. Judo throw after Judo throw. It was a clinic. Its easy to be dominate when you’re taking on tomato cans. So much for that Ufc talk. He has a long way to go to even make mention of talk of being one of the top welterweights. What a Crappy stoppage!!! Rosenthal should be ashamed!!

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42696 Rich S. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:17:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42696 omg.. horrible stoppage.. omg.. horrible stoppage..

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/03/wec-35-quick-results/comment-page-1/#comment-42695 Rich S. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:17:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4829#comment-42695 i don't see where miura's summoning these reversals from.. i also don't see why i keep commenting on what's basically a dead thread.. i don’t see where miura’s summoning these reversals from.. i also don’t see why i keep commenting on what’s basically a dead thread..

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