Comments on: WEC 35: The WEC delivers yet again http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:13:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Guy Gaduois http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42852 Guy Gaduois Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:12:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42852 Sometimes I miss out on good MMA performances because the production gets in the way. Watching Inside MMA on HDNet is a classic case in point; they're doing their best to bring MMA highlights, but sometimes it's via jitter-cam, sometimes we see back of the head-vision or guillotine productions, where half or better of the action is missing. These same miscues on major productions like Dream, EliteXC, UFC or Affliction is inexcusable. Bad announcing - making the wrong call, cheerleading or misdirecting the viewer is also detrimental to the production, detrimental to the product. I have every right as a consumer to want the best product in place for my entertainment value. Shine_box, you can watch MMA on a 40 year old, 12" b/w portable battery powered TV with a fuzzy antennae connection, broadcast in Esperanto with a malfunctioning horizontal control for all I care. Good for you, I'm glad you're happy. The rest of the technologically able world, with all the modern conveniences of this century really appreciate the sport we love being presented in the best possible light. It's not rocket science - it's supply and demand, cream rising to the top. Entertainment isn't supposed to be aggravating - that's why we have work. Sometimes I miss out on good MMA performances because the production gets in the way. Watching Inside MMA on HDNet is a classic case in point; they’re doing their best to bring MMA highlights, but sometimes it’s via jitter-cam, sometimes we see back of the head-vision or guillotine productions, where half or better of the action is missing.
These same miscues on major productions like Dream, EliteXC, UFC or Affliction is inexcusable. Bad announcing – making the wrong call, cheerleading or misdirecting the viewer is also detrimental to the production, detrimental to the product.
I have every right as a consumer to want the best product in place for my entertainment value. Shine_box, you can watch MMA on a 40 year old, 12″ b/w portable battery powered TV with a fuzzy antennae connection, broadcast in Esperanto with a malfunctioning horizontal control for all I care. Good for you, I’m glad you’re happy.
The rest of the technologically able world, with all the modern conveniences of this century really appreciate the sport we love being presented in the best possible light. It’s not rocket science – it’s supply and demand, cream rising to the top. Entertainment isn’t supposed to be aggravating – that’s why we have work.

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]]> By: John E http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42813 John E Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:05:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42813 Oops, too fast on the trigger. "ALWAYS entertaining", was what I was going to write. Oops, too fast on the trigger. “ALWAYS entertaining”, was what I was going to write.

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]]> By: John E http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42812 John E Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:03:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42812 I don't watch every UFC nowadays, but I make sure to watch every WEC. I don't know how they do it, but it's ALWAYS I don’t watch every UFC nowadays, but I make sure to watch every WEC. I don’t know how they do it, but it’s ALWAYS

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]]> By: Justin B http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42806 Justin B Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:51:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42806 Each champion was in a bad prediciment in one way or another during there match. Could of turned out bad for the WEC if condit would of lost his belt. He needs to stay in that promotion for a while longer. Chris Lytle could beat Condit let alone GSP, Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, or Sanchez. Varner looked like he could hold his belt for a while. Marcus Hicks is a tough guy. Each champion was in a bad prediciment in one way or another during there match. Could of turned out bad for the WEC if condit would of lost his belt. He needs to stay in that promotion for a while longer. Chris Lytle could beat Condit let alone GSP, Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, or Sanchez. Varner looked like he could hold his belt for a while. Marcus Hicks is a tough guy.

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]]> By: Mike K http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42804 Mike K Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:47:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42804 WEC 35 was easily one of the most entertaining events I've seen in a long time. TKO's ended every single fight televised. It was impressive and fast paced. This is what I was able to take away from the event: 1) Brian Stann is nowhere near ready to move to the UFC (this only matters if the rumors of the LHW in the WEC moving to the UFC is true). He was the only fight I really cared to see, and I was so unimpressed by him. On the other hand, damn was I impressed by Cantwell. 2) Varner is unbelievable and I want to see him against "Cowboy" Cerrone. I was completely shocked at how much he was able to control the bout. 3) Hicks gained more from this loss than he could have ever imagined. The man can take a shot... or two... or three... and more. But it also shows that his guillotine should not be his only weapon. 4) Condit is beatable. Though his conditioning needs improvement. He talks about how he can beat any WW in the UFC, but after last night... yes, he was impressive, but GSP would ruin him. WEC 35 was easily one of the most entertaining events I’ve seen in a long time. TKO’s ended every single fight televised. It was impressive and fast paced.

This is what I was able to take away from the event:

1) Brian Stann is nowhere near ready to move to the UFC (this only matters if the rumors of the LHW in the WEC moving to the UFC is true). He was the only fight I really cared to see, and I was so unimpressed by him. On the other hand, damn was I impressed by Cantwell.

2) Varner is unbelievable and I want to see him against “Cowboy” Cerrone. I was completely shocked at how much he was able to control the bout.

3) Hicks gained more from this loss than he could have ever imagined. The man can take a shot… or two… or three… and more. But it also shows that his guillotine should not be his only weapon.

4) Condit is beatable. Though his conditioning needs improvement. He talks about how he can beat any WW in the UFC, but after last night… yes, he was impressive, but GSP would ruin him.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42796 Rich S. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:43:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42796 Stann's Cantwell's first loss.. Cantwell's Stann's first loss.. you gotta love this sport.. Stann’s Cantwell’s first loss.. Cantwell’s Stann’s first loss..

you gotta love this sport..

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]]> By: shine_box http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42790 shine_box Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:46:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42790 Comparing WEC’s presentation with everyone else is almost painful, because as a fan of MMA, watching the other promotions is like undergoing dental work. Geez, comments like this just depress me. How sir, are you a fan of MMA if the only MMA you can watch painlessly involves the quality of the production values? Here's a thought, base it on the quality of the fights! Affliction, WEC, UFC, Elite, DREAM, MFC, the former IFL all have great fights to watch, I don't let something aesthetic like production values affect my opinion, and MMA is NEVER like going to the dentist, it's always completely awesome. Org loyalty is for fanboys, embrace them all and just enjoy all the MMA goodness!! Comparing WEC’s presentation with everyone else is almost painful, because as a fan of MMA, watching the other promotions is like undergoing dental work.

Geez, comments like this just depress me. How sir, are you a fan of MMA if the only MMA you can watch painlessly involves the quality of the production values? Here’s a thought, base it on the quality of the fights!
Affliction, WEC, UFC, Elite, DREAM, MFC, the former IFL all have great fights to watch, I don’t let something aesthetic like production values affect my opinion, and MMA is NEVER like going to the dentist, it’s always completely awesome.
Org loyalty is for fanboys, embrace them all and just enjoy all the MMA goodness!!

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]]> By: Ken http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42778 Ken Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:43:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42778 WEC is my favorite fight promotion, and it seems to just keep getting better. Mir is the best announcer out there. Articulate, and great at explaining things to those of us who are not experts. WEC is my favorite fight promotion, and it seems to just keep getting better. Mir is the best announcer out there. Articulate, and great at explaining things to those of us who are not experts.

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]]> By: Michael http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42775 Michael Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:28:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42775 Didnt stann weigh in at 201?? Could he make the cut to 185?? that might be a better weight for him, he looked small compared to cantwell. Didnt stann weigh in at 201?? Could he make the cut to 185?? that might be a better weight for him, he looked small compared to cantwell.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-42772 JOe K. Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:09:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=4841#comment-42772 One thing I like about the WEC commentators is there consistant. Goldberg and Rogan are so biased and they change midway through the fight of who they are rooting for. I think Rogan changes his mind and wants to go with the winner and then Goldberg his lap dog follows. Their trademark sayings are getting old. They should slow down on the hyperbole of their opinions and just call the fight. That is whats so great with the WEC commentators they seem to keep neutral. They actually have dead air because they are so into the fights. They keep it technical and honest. Not completely abandoning calling the fight to go into some back story of the fighters or their theories on how Judo is hard to assimilate succesfully into the MMA style, or how loud slaps on a leg kick don't hurt as much, or how when fights smile when they get hit it means they're hurt, or how incorrectly the rubber guard is performed, or how one fighter is leagues above the other fighter in some style... Keep calling the fight and slide the opinions in! I think Rogan is actually trying to become more neutral. He's said to have read MMA blogs (so he probably reads the criticism) . I know he cares about the sport and is still a solid announcer, he just gets too excited and extreme with his opinions (he seems like an extreme guy). I think he has to go against his instinct about too much of a fan when he calls the fight. One thing I like about the WEC commentators is there consistant. Goldberg and Rogan are so biased and they change midway through the fight of who they are rooting for. I think Rogan changes his mind and wants to go with the winner and then Goldberg his lap dog follows. Their trademark sayings are getting old. They should slow down on the hyperbole of their opinions and just call the fight.

That is whats so great with the WEC commentators they seem to keep neutral. They actually have dead air because they are so into the fights. They keep it technical and honest. Not completely abandoning calling the fight to go into some back story of the fighters or their theories on how Judo is hard to assimilate succesfully into the MMA style, or how loud slaps on a leg kick don’t hurt as much, or how when fights smile when they get hit it means they’re hurt, or how incorrectly the rubber guard is performed, or how one fighter is leagues above the other fighter in some style… Keep calling the fight and slide the opinions in!

I think Rogan is actually trying to become more neutral. He’s said to have read MMA blogs (so he probably reads the criticism) . I know he cares about the sport and is still a solid announcer, he just gets too excited and extreme with his opinions (he seems like an extreme guy). I think he has to go against his instinct about too much of a fan when he calls the fight.

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