Comments on: Joe Lauzon not fond of Tapout http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 14:08:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Eleventhsun http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-53214 Eleventhsun Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:34:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-53214 When I saw it, it seemed as if they were pissing on his training,but I think it was the editing. Im sure what they meant was that obviously he got as good as he is with the trainers he has, but to get to the next level he has to train with people like Delagrotte. And wether feelings get hurt or not, its true. When you become the level of being way better than everyone you train with, its time to go elsewhere. Never forget your roots or your family, but its the way pro fighting works, he needs to train with people who can kick his ass. When I saw it, it seemed as if they were pissing on his training,but I think it was the editing. Im sure what they meant was that obviously he got as good as he is with the trainers he has, but to get to the next level he has to train with people like Delagrotte. And wether feelings get hurt or not, its true. When you become the level of being way better than everyone you train with, its time to go elsewhere. Never forget your roots or your family, but its the way pro fighting works, he needs to train with people who can kick his ass.

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]]> By: kat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-45468 kat Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:24:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-45468 I don't see what the big deal is. So they dissed the place, that's just tv. If you don't like what they're sayin', don't watch the fucking show! Dumbasses! I don’t see what the big deal is. So they dissed the place, that’s just tv. If you don’t like what they’re sayin’, don’t watch the fucking show! Dumbasses!

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]]> By: ty http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-44378 ty Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:32:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-44378 It sucks the way Tapout portrayed Reality Self Defense and Coach Maze because it does not make you want to train there. But in all honesty, if you want to be in the UFC, and at the top of heap, then you have to train at the best gyms available in your area. In this case, when you think of Boston, you think of Boston Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Sityodtong. JOE, TAKE YOUR BROTHER TO HAWAII!!!! It sucks the way Tapout portrayed Reality Self Defense and Coach Maze because it does not make you want to train there. But in all honesty, if you want to be in the UFC, and at the top of heap, then you have to train at the best gyms available in your area. In this case, when you think of Boston, you think of Boston Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Sityodtong. JOE, TAKE YOUR BROTHER TO HAWAII!!!!

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]]> By: fusionmma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-44173 fusionmma Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:59:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-44173 As some one who run a small MMA gym and train MMA fighter. This is my worse fear. Is to be diss by your former students or students who have out grown your gyms. What happen to respect and loyalty? You can move on to another gym but you should still remember your root. I watch the Tap Out Show all the time. But I feel a sense of class have been lost. Is a bit obnouixs at time. I have work with many successful businessmen the one that last and maintain many friendship and respect in their community are the one that can carry them selves in a respectful manner. The Tap Out guys on the long run will not be good for their business. It will be like a big train wreck waiting to happen As some one who run a small MMA gym and train MMA fighter. This is my worse fear. Is to be diss by your former students or students who have out grown your gyms.

What happen to respect and loyalty? You can move on to another gym but you should still remember your root.

I watch the Tap Out Show all the time. But I feel a sense of class have been lost. Is a bit obnouixs at time. I have work with many successful businessmen the one that last and maintain many friendship and respect in their community are the one that can carry them selves in a respectful manner. The Tap Out guys on the long run will not be good for their business. It will be like a big train wreck waiting to happen

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43731 HexRei Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:44:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43731 That last as response to HUCKABY. Also, I cant seem to CnP from article text here without viewing page source anymore? I think that probably inconveniences the users more than potential thieves since the text can still be easily found with a lot of tools including a simple View Page Source. That last as response to HUCKABY.

Also, I cant seem to CnP from article text here without viewing page source anymore? I think that probably inconveniences the users more than potential thieves since the text can still be easily found with a lot of tools including a simple View Page Source.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43730 HexRei Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:42:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43730 "but on the other hand Joe Lauzon's shenanigans are starting to get a little old" what are you talkin about? Joe Lauzon had shenanigans? when? i hope you're not counting the weight prank. “but on the other hand Joe Lauzon’s shenanigans are starting to get a little old”

what are you talkin about? Joe Lauzon had shenanigans? when? i hope you’re not counting the weight prank.

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]]> By: ManUp Vic http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43720 ManUp Vic Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:33:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43720 it's not cool how they portrayed Dan's gym, but who knows how much of the editing is realy decided by the TapouT stooges. TV execs aren't really well known for their compassion and honesty. TapouT has done very well in the sport, no matter how goofy the owners are, they have helped a lot, and i mean a whole lot of fighters, something as simple as free shirts can be a nice boost in a young fighters careers. We like to do the same, help as many fighters as possible, but we would love to be able to make as much of a difference as TapouT has. it’s not cool how they portrayed Dan’s gym, but who knows how much of the editing is realy decided by the TapouT stooges. TV execs aren’t really well known for their compassion and honesty.

TapouT has done very well in the sport, no matter how goofy the owners are, they have helped a lot, and i mean a whole lot of fighters, something as simple as free shirts can be a nice boost in a young fighters careers.

We like to do the same, help as many fighters as possible, but we would love to be able to make as much of a difference as TapouT has.

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]]> By: scott_whitt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43696 scott_whitt Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:45:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43696 I thought the same thing when I watched that episode. I found it incredibly unnecessary to dump on the gyms the way they did. All they had to say is that Lauzon had progressed past them but they made it seem like they were still rubbing sticks. I don;t know if they were just trying to get pub for DeLaG's place but they way they did was very A-holeish. I thought the same thing when I watched that episode. I found it incredibly unnecessary to dump on the gyms the way they did. All they had to say is that Lauzon had progressed past them but they made it seem like they were still rubbing sticks. I don;t know if they were just trying to get pub for DeLaG’s place but they way they did was very A-holeish.

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]]> By: curt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43658 curt Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:01:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43658 although successful in business, tapout dudes are absolute idiots (just like dana white). tapout and dana think there are bigger than the sport. unfortunately they will still be around like cockroaches and don king. dana and tapout are classic example of that sports are filled with idiots. although successful in business, tapout dudes are absolute idiots (just like dana white). tapout and dana think there are bigger than the sport. unfortunately they will still be around like cockroaches and don king. dana and tapout are classic example of that sports are filled with idiots.

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]]> By: MMA Fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43656 MMA Fan Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:41:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43656 I'm with Joe on this. It seemed like the show went out of its way to make Dan's gym/trainers look as second rate as possible. I thought it was pretty low class, and could have been handled better. Lots of fighters move on from their first gym/trainer, but that doesn't mean you have to demean the folks who were with the guy from the jump because they don't have the resources of the larger shops. Tapout does expose/sponsor a lot of fighters, and that's a good thing, but this was something they should not have done, and I can understand why Joe is angry. I’m with Joe on this. It seemed like the show went out of its way to make Dan’s gym/trainers look as second rate as possible. I thought it was pretty low class, and could have been handled better. Lots of fighters move on from their first gym/trainer, but that doesn’t mean you have to demean the folks who were with the guy from the jump because they don’t have the resources of the larger shops. Tapout does expose/sponsor a lot of fighters, and that’s a good thing, but this was something they should not have done, and I can understand why Joe is angry.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43653 mike wolfe Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:29:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43653 I wasn't there, so I can't say whether Mask was right or wrong. For the reasons stated in my previous post, I can and did say that Tapout's approach was stupid. They can hype fighters without bashing their gyms. Think about it. That puts the fighter in an awkward position, because his instinct is to defend his friends. Publicly criticizing his gym makes it less likely he'll move on when he may need to, which is the exact opposite of what Mask said he was trying to do. I wasn’t there, so I can’t say whether Mask was right or wrong. For the reasons stated in my previous post, I can and did say that Tapout’s approach was stupid. They can hype fighters without bashing their gyms. Think about it. That puts the fighter in an awkward position, because his instinct is to defend his friends. Publicly criticizing his gym makes it less likely he’ll move on when he may need to, which is the exact opposite of what Mask said he was trying to do.

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]]> By: dsid http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43651 dsid Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:09:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43651 I'm not sure what you guys are crying about. Simple logic says that if you want to be the best, train with the best (or at least guys that are better than you). They certainly didn't edit in that little kid he was training with in his jiu-jitsu class, or the rolly-polly guy he was sparring with at the other gym (who the trainer said was the best fighter in the gym next to Joe & Dan). Most of the top guys today come from top camps, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I don't give a rat's ass about the Tapout guys, but it looked to me that their assessment was right on the money, on matter how they edited it. I’m not sure what you guys are crying about. Simple logic says that if you want to be the best, train with the best (or at least guys that are better than you).

They certainly didn’t edit in that little kid he was training with in his jiu-jitsu class, or the rolly-polly guy he was sparring with at the other gym (who the trainer said was the best fighter in the gym next to Joe & Dan).

Most of the top guys today come from top camps, which shouldn’t surprise anyone. I don’t give a rat’s ass about the Tapout guys, but it looked to me that their assessment was right on the money, on matter how they edited it.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43645 mike wolfe Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:47:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43645 Ok, this is an object lesson on how not to do business. By criticizing Dany's gym(s) and trainer(s) on national tv, the Tapout guys have just about guaranteed they'll never be welcome there again, and none of their friends will think well of them. Furthermore, if you're running a gym that isn't one of the established ones, maybe you think twice about letting the Tapout guys have access when they show up at your door. Will you be the next guy trashed on national tv? Mask could easily have had a private, off-camera conversation with Dany about training without creating some sort of feud or vendetta. Pointless and stupid. Ok, this is an object lesson on how not to do business. By criticizing Dany’s gym(s) and trainer(s) on national tv, the Tapout guys have just about guaranteed they’ll never be welcome there again, and none of their friends will think well of them. Furthermore, if you’re running a gym that isn’t one of the established ones, maybe you think twice about letting the Tapout guys have access when they show up at your door. Will you be the next guy trashed on national tv? Mask could easily have had a private, off-camera conversation with Dany about training without creating some sort of feud or vendetta. Pointless and stupid.

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]]> By: rolltide http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43639 rolltide Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:20:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43639 Mask and Skyscrape two of the most obnoxious people on the planet. But Sam, I don't get what your problem with Joe is. Mask and Skyscrape two of the most obnoxious people on the planet. But Sam, I don’t get what your problem with Joe is.

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]]> By: Justin B http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43638 Justin B Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:19:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43638 And why doesn 't Joe train there anymore. Oh yeah he found alot better gym training with some guy BJ Penn. Get out of that crappy gym Dan and go down and train with Florian. And why doesn ‘t Joe train there anymore. Oh yeah he found alot better gym training with some guy BJ Penn. Get out of that crappy gym Dan and go down and train with Florian.

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]]> By: fightfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43618 fightfan Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:48:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43618 Of course Joe and company knew that editing was goign to be done to "spice" up the end product. But it is fucked up that they portrayed them in such a negative manner. I am sure Joe's gym thought they were going to get some recognition. They would of NEVER agreed if tehy thought there was even a chance to get embarrassed on national tv. Screw Tapout, the "new" Affliction Of course Joe and company knew that editing was goign to be done to “spice” up the end product. But it is fucked up that they portrayed them in such a negative manner.

I am sure Joe’s gym thought they were going to get some recognition. They would of NEVER agreed if tehy thought there was even a chance to get embarrassed on national tv.

Screw Tapout, the “new” Affliction

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]]> By: Andrew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43610 Andrew Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:01:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43610 I'm with Joe on this, too. Realizing that on a reality show, editing will be done to make the product more entertaining is one thing. Seeing your gym and trainers continually bashed that entire show and basically your rival gym constantly praised is a completely different animal. It was pretty vomit-inducing seeing Mask sidle up to Dana to share his expert thoughts on how shitty he thought the gym and training was. Joe and Dan deserve to be pissed about it. I’m with Joe on this, too.

Realizing that on a reality show, editing will be done to make the product more entertaining is one thing. Seeing your gym and trainers continually bashed that entire show and basically your rival gym constantly praised is a completely different animal. It was pretty vomit-inducing seeing Mask sidle up to Dana to share his expert thoughts on how shitty he thought the gym and training was.

Joe and Dan deserve to be pissed about it.

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]]> By: craw pop http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43603 craw pop Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:40:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43603 I am with Joe on this. There was a lot more interesting stuff on his blog than what was put on this site. The tapout guys basically made it seem like, if you dont train with Delagrotte you dont take MMA seriously. I am from Boston and I feel that the way they portrayed those gyms was awful and could easily affect their businesses. Why crap on the less famous gyms? Aren't we all hoping MMA grows? If we are then lets support the lesser known trainers, gyms, etc. Maybe I am taking it too seriously. I am with Joe on this.
There was a lot more interesting stuff on his blog than what was put on this site.
The tapout guys basically made it seem like, if you dont train with Delagrotte you dont take MMA seriously.
I am from Boston and I feel that the way they portrayed those gyms was awful and could easily affect their businesses.
Why crap on the less famous gyms?
Aren’t we all hoping MMA grows?
If we are then lets support the lesser known trainers, gyms, etc.
Maybe I am taking it too seriously.

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]]> By: truth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43598 truth Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:51:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43598 Yeah editing is funny. The last show they had a fighter training with Dean Lister. Toward the end of the first round of his fight you could hear Punkass in the background say something to the effect of they're both really tired. Next they cut to a close up of Punkass saying how both fighters look fresh and ready to go. Sometimes they edit for drama sometimes they edit to put a positive slant, even if it might not be reality. Yeah editing is funny. The last show they had a fighter training with Dean Lister. Toward the end of the first round of his fight you could hear Punkass in the background say something to the effect of they’re both really tired. Next they cut to a close up of Punkass saying how both fighters look fresh and ready to go. Sometimes they edit for drama sometimes they edit to put a positive slant, even if it might not be reality.

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]]> By: Timmy D http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/09/joe-lauzon-not-fond-of-tapout/comment-page-1/#comment-43597 Timmy D Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:37:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5160#comment-43597 I can't *stand* the tapout guys. The only one with any sense is Punkass. Skyscrape is just a bottom feeding hanger on. The thing is, Mask is obviously a very smart guy and knows a lot about the fight game, but its so hard to take him seriously with his bullshit makeup he wears and all that crap. I can’t *stand* the tapout guys. The only one with any sense is Punkass. Skyscrape is just a bottom feeding hanger on. The thing is, Mask is obviously a very smart guy and knows a lot about the fight game, but its so hard to take him seriously with his bullshit makeup he wears and all that crap.

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