Comments on: Brock Lesnar dominates Heath Herring at UFC 87 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 14:08:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: DOLO http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-44497 DOLO Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:21:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-44497 Brock is worthless.. hes a poor sport and a disgrace to the MMA world. Did you see him jump up and down pointing his finger and laughing at Heath at the end like a little kid?? what a joke, I hope he gets his arm broke in his next fight. Antics is one thing respect is another... His strength will only get him so far, its MIXED martial arts... go back to the wwf where its ok to act like a child Brock is worthless.. hes a poor sport and a disgrace to the MMA world. Did you see him jump up and down pointing his finger and laughing at Heath at the end like a little kid?? what a joke, I hope he gets his arm broke in his next fight. Antics is one thing respect is another… His strength will only get him so far, its MIXED martial arts… go back to the wwf where its ok to act like a child

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-44184 king mah mah Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:32:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-44184 I really enjoyed Lesnars so called "antics". Some of you people try to act all holyer than thou and forget what you really are,.... a human being who likes to watch people get their ass kicked! Now what is so honorable about that? To all the people not happy about Lesnars antics- deal with it bitch! I really enjoyed Lesnars so called “antics”. Some of you people try to act all holyer than thou and forget what you really are,…. a human being who likes to watch people get their ass kicked! Now what is so honorable about that? To all the people not happy about Lesnars antics- deal with it bitch!

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]]> By: Kyle Glassman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-44034 Kyle Glassman Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:44:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-44034 I agree with alot of you, Lesnar needs to work on his antics, but it didnt bother me how he acted. For god sakes he just got a 30-26 win from all judges. He made Heath look like a bitch. Heath is strong and is 250 lbs. and was getting thrown around and taken down at will. yes lesnar needs to work on this and that but are you guys forgetting this is his 3rd fight ever, and he isnt fighting whos who, he is fighting MIR the ex HW champ of the ufc and heath who has over 40 fights. Hate him or love him, he will be the next big thing in the hvywt division. I promise you that, show me anyone else that weighs 285 lbs and moves that fast, and can bend you into a pretzel. lol i cant wait till his next fight I agree with alot of you, Lesnar needs to work on his antics, but it didnt bother me how he acted. For god sakes he just got a 30-26 win from all judges. He made Heath look like a bitch. Heath is strong and is 250 lbs. and was getting thrown around and taken down at will. yes lesnar needs to work on this and that but are you guys forgetting this is his 3rd fight ever, and he isnt fighting whos who, he is fighting MIR the ex HW champ of the ufc and heath who has over 40 fights. Hate him or love him, he will be the next big thing in the hvywt division. I promise you that, show me anyone else that weighs 285 lbs and moves that fast, and can bend you into a pretzel. lol i cant wait till his next fight

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]]> By: Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-44010 Mike Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:19:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-44010 Razzle how does lesnar now have much room for improvement? If he was improved the fight would have been over the 1st time he had full mount. Razzle how does lesnar now have much room for improvement? If he was improved the fight would have been over the 1st time he had full mount.

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]]> By: Razzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-44006 Razzle Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:45:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-44006 He probably had no idea the SOB could hit him from so far away. He has knuckle-dragging gorilla arms. He probably had no idea the SOB could hit him from so far away. He has knuckle-dragging gorilla arms.

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43991 Cathedron Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:37:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43991 I would just like to point out that the vast majority of people who cover MMA professionally all picked Brock to be an easy win for Herring, while it would seem that the majority of us lowly fans predicted that Herring would get raped. Seriously, if you don't have good BJJ, you don't want to fight Lesnar. Kongo should not take that fight unless he's prepared to run like Starnes. I think Lesnar didn't go for the finish or the G&P because he's still afraid of submissions. That's pretty much his only weakness. He's not afraid to exchange on his feet since one punch from him knocks everyone on their ass. He's only going to get better and it was obvious that his strength is just too much. Herring is a strong, strong dude and he was getting tossed around like a little kid. I thought he'd win easily, but I didn't expect to be so impressed by his potential. Anyway, I'm willing to let Lesnar's antics slide this one time. Why? First, he was clearly excited about getting that win. Downright giddy, in fact. He needed it bad and, I think first and foremost, he proved to HIMSELF that he belongs in the UFC. Second, Herring is a giant asshole and he totally deserved a taste of his own medicine. He's a crybaby when he's losing and takes little insulting jabs at opponents when he wins (like after the Kongo win, for example). Brock was taking a jab at Herring's "cowboy" persona (which is some fucking ridiculous Pride bullshit to begin with). Herring acts like he wishes he were a pro wrestler, but he just got schooled by one in a real fight. I love that. Does anyone else think that Herring let Lesnar hit him that first time? I could swear he saw it coming and didn't block it. I'm inclinded to believe that smug SOB thought he could take a punch from Lesnar and then humiliate him in the stand up. If so, I'm thinking he was wrong. I would just like to point out that the vast majority of people who cover MMA professionally all picked Brock to be an easy win for Herring, while it would seem that the majority of us lowly fans predicted that Herring would get raped. Seriously, if you don’t have good BJJ, you don’t want to fight Lesnar. Kongo should not take that fight unless he’s prepared to run like Starnes. I think Lesnar didn’t go for the finish or the G&P because he’s still afraid of submissions. That’s pretty much his only weakness. He’s not afraid to exchange on his feet since one punch from him knocks everyone on their ass. He’s only going to get better and it was obvious that his strength is just too much. Herring is a strong, strong dude and he was getting tossed around like a little kid. I thought he’d win easily, but I didn’t expect to be so impressed by his potential.

Anyway, I’m willing to let Lesnar’s antics slide this one time. Why? First, he was clearly excited about getting that win. Downright giddy, in fact. He needed it bad and, I think first and foremost, he proved to HIMSELF that he belongs in the UFC.

Second, Herring is a giant asshole and he totally deserved a taste of his own medicine. He’s a crybaby when he’s losing and takes little insulting jabs at opponents when he wins (like after the Kongo win, for example). Brock was taking a jab at Herring’s “cowboy” persona (which is some fucking ridiculous Pride bullshit to begin with). Herring acts like he wishes he were a pro wrestler, but he just got schooled by one in a real fight. I love that.

Does anyone else think that Herring let Lesnar hit him that first time? I could swear he saw it coming and didn’t block it. I’m inclinded to believe that smug SOB thought he could take a punch from Lesnar and then humiliate him in the stand up. If so, I’m thinking he was wrong.

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]]> By: Warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43835 Warcry Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:16:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43835 Just call him the beast because he is going to beast the heavyweight division for many years to come. What is frightening is that his finishing skills are average at best. He's gonna hospitalize someone at some point I am sure of it. It's only a matter of time before championship gold is resting across his broad shoulders. Just call him the beast because he is going to beast the heavyweight division for many years to come. What is frightening is that his finishing skills are average at best. He’s gonna hospitalize someone at some point I am sure of it. It’s only a matter of time before championship gold is resting across his broad shoulders.

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]]> By: Razzle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43832 Razzle Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:42:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43832 All my props go to Brock. He played it cool. Even though he mounted him several times, and had his back with no hooks, it was good to see that his conditioning is top notch. He made controlling a 250lb guy look easy. As for the antics, that's what happens when you talk crap before you fight. Heath said he's faced bigger, stronger, more accomplished wrestlers and he had no answer for what Brock was doing to him. There's plenty of fighters (Anderson Silva) who dance around and mess with their opponents. Who cares. With more training Brock could very well be the next champ. Heath Herring's face looked like it was hit by a truck after the first round. If he was striking like GSP in his fight, it would be scary. And the scariest thing about Brock, is that there's so much room for improvement. All my props go to Brock. He played it cool. Even though he mounted him several times, and had his back with no hooks, it was good to see that his conditioning is top notch. He made controlling a 250lb guy look easy. As for the antics, that’s what happens when you talk crap before you fight. Heath said he’s faced bigger, stronger, more accomplished wrestlers and he had no answer for what Brock was doing to him. There’s plenty of fighters (Anderson Silva) who dance around and mess with their opponents. Who cares. With more training Brock could very well be the next champ. Heath Herring’s face looked like it was hit by a truck after the first round. If he was striking like GSP in his fight, it would be scary.

And the scariest thing about Brock, is that there’s so much room for improvement.

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]]> By: Bill Lumberg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43807 Bill Lumberg Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:32:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43807 Mike--- That is what I am saying! I would love to see Kimbo take a 8 pound fist to his face. Mike—
That is what I am saying! I would love to see Kimbo take a 8 pound fist to his face.

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]]> By: Jesse http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43804 Jesse Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:12:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43804 they would have made the fight with congo win or loose they were setting it up for brock.. he'll probably win that fight on the ground , be interesting to see him v cain velasquez.. i think fedor would beat him up pretty good, butcan see a lot of the top heavyweights getting controlled by lesnar on the ground.. who could simulate being in there with a guy this big who is a ncaa wrestling champ.. it'd be hard for big nog ( or anyone )to train for him could be ufc champ in a years time.. they would have made the fight with congo win or loose they were setting it up for brock.. he’ll probably win that fight on the ground ,
be interesting to see him v cain velasquez..
i think fedor would beat him up pretty good, butcan see a lot of the top heavyweights getting controlled by lesnar on the ground.. who could simulate being in there with a guy this big who is a ncaa wrestling champ.. it’d be hard for big nog ( or anyone )to train for him
could be ufc champ in a years time..

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]]> By: Brock Zilla http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43798 Brock Zilla Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:53:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43798 For his third fight ever, Brock whupped a$$. Heath was saying he fought bigger, better, faster, stronger, I wonder why he got beat. I believe it is because he did not think about three very important facts. 1) Brock Lesnar had to cut to make the 265 limit. He's massive on a scale Heath was not ready for. 2) At 295 pounds he was running the 40 yard dash in 4.8 seconds. He was so much quicker than Heath thought. 3) Brock has impressive collegiate wrestling credentials and a solid athletic background. While he might have been in the WWE that has no bearing on his athleticism. Brock just plain old beat the texas crazy horse. Heath is a tough crafty veteran, so give Brock his due. As to the antics, I am sure the right people will deal with that and we will see some class his next fight. For his third fight ever, Brock whupped a$$. Heath was saying he fought bigger, better, faster, stronger, I wonder why he got beat. I believe it is because he did not think about three very important facts. 1) Brock Lesnar had to cut to make the 265 limit. He’s massive on a scale Heath was not ready for. 2) At 295 pounds he was running the 40 yard dash in 4.8 seconds. He was so much quicker than Heath thought. 3) Brock has impressive collegiate wrestling credentials and a solid athletic background. While he might have been in the WWE that has no bearing on his athleticism. Brock just plain old beat the texas crazy horse. Heath is a tough crafty veteran, so give Brock his due. As to the antics, I am sure the right people will deal with that and we will see some class his next fight.

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]]> By: Johnny Lawrence http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43774 Johnny Lawrence Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:02:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43774 I can't fault Lesnar's "antics" after the fight. I'm sure Brock needed to psych himself up for this fight and after pounding on heath's face for 15 minutes it's hard to just turn that switch off. not every fighter was raised in a dojo with bowing and the mutual combat respect. he comes from college/pro-wresting it's a different mentality. it may not be the way you'd do it, but he's the one with the XXXXL gloves on, let him do his thing. the one thing I can do without is the friggin' WWE signs creeping up at the events, last thing we need is "I love you Sable" signs in the background of the fights. they need to squash that shit right now. I can’t fault Lesnar’s “antics” after the fight. I’m sure Brock needed to psych himself up for this fight and after pounding on heath’s face for 15 minutes it’s hard to just turn that switch off. not every fighter was raised in a dojo with bowing and the mutual combat respect. he comes from college/pro-wresting it’s a different mentality. it may not be the way you’d do it, but he’s the one with the XXXXL gloves on, let him do his thing.

the one thing I can do without is the friggin’ WWE signs creeping up at the events, last thing we need is “I love you Sable” signs in the background of the fights. they need to squash that shit right now.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43772 darkmetal Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:56:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43772 Lesnar is the Alpha male of MMA right now...indisputable power, speed, and endurance. What he lacks is finishing skills, and when he gets them--watch out! My comments to Lesnar would be "great fight, but you should have used your elbows and postured up when you got your opponent in position" If Tito Ortiz can do it with his limited physical abilities (at least in comparison to Lesnar's) then why not? I also think that if Lesnar had baited Herring, he could have bombed him to the mat ala Rampage with ease, and it would have finished him. All these things are possible with Lesnar, and we will continue to see this guy improve. Lesnar is the Alpha male of MMA right now…indisputable power, speed, and endurance. What he lacks is finishing skills, and when he gets them–watch out!

My comments to Lesnar would be “great fight, but you should have used your elbows and postured up when you got your opponent in position” If Tito Ortiz can do it with his limited physical abilities (at least in comparison to Lesnar’s) then why not?

I also think that if Lesnar had baited Herring, he could have bombed him to the mat ala Rampage with ease, and it would have finished him.

All these things are possible with Lesnar, and we will continue to see this guy improve.

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]]> By: dave woodruff http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43762 dave woodruff Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:40:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43762 Herring ran his mouth before the fight saying that Lesnar would try to "Donkey Kong" his head, and mentioned the large size of Lesnar's head. Which to me is disrespectful, (yes it is true he has a large melon), but then also Herring mentioned how he has fought stronger wrestlers, more accomplished fighters, and so on...isnt that saying to the other guy that you aren't shit and can't do anything to me? That is how I take it. Love him or hate him give Lesnar credit for beating a solid HW, the same HW who should have beat Noguiera (sp?) if not for a mental error, and Noguiera is the interm HW champ. Yes if Brock fought Randy Couture right now he would lose, but I am already sick of people saying how they hate Lesnar and don't give him credit because he was a WWE wrestler. It is completely stupid to me. Do these same people boycott every movie that The Rock is in, because he used to be a wrestler? Do these people not give credit for the political work that Jesse Ventura has done, because he was a wrestler? It is fine to not like someone for one reason or another, but give the guy some credit, yes he looks like a cro-magna man, but he is freakishly strong and fast, with a great amatuer wrestling background. Herring ran his mouth before the fight saying that Lesnar would try to “Donkey Kong” his head, and mentioned the large size of Lesnar’s head. Which to me is disrespectful, (yes it is true he has a large melon), but then also Herring mentioned how he has fought stronger wrestlers, more accomplished fighters, and so on…isnt that saying to the other guy that you aren’t shit and can’t do anything to me? That is how I take it. Love him or hate him give Lesnar credit for beating a solid HW, the same HW who should have beat Noguiera (sp?) if not for a mental error, and Noguiera is the interm HW champ. Yes if Brock fought Randy Couture right now he would lose, but I am already sick of people saying how they hate Lesnar and don’t give him credit because he was a WWE wrestler. It is completely stupid to me. Do these same people boycott every movie that The Rock is in, because he used to be a wrestler? Do these people not give credit for the political work that Jesse Ventura has done, because he was a wrestler? It is fine to not like someone for one reason or another, but give the guy some credit, yes he looks like a cro-magna man, but he is freakishly strong and fast, with a great amatuer wrestling background.

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]]> By: Handover Fist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43761 Handover Fist Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:13:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43761 Lesnar should be eating and sleeping at the BJJ gym. Its the only thing that can keep him from the belt. As an athlete the guy is just a freak on nature, at 280 lbs. the guy moves with the agility of a cat. Lesnar should be eating and sleeping at the BJJ gym. Its the only thing that can keep him from the belt. As an athlete the guy is just a freak on nature, at 280 lbs. the guy moves with the agility of a cat.

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]]> By: paul http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43758 paul Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:42:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43758 What a bad sport! Brock pushed Herring in the back after the bell of Round 1, started his victory celebration prematurely (and almost got hit) before Round 3 was over, and did that ridiculous fishing/lasso thing after the fight. And THEN made the "rode that horse out of town" comment during the talk with Rogan (vague reference to the Crazy Horse). He is a brute, but he is also a poor, poor sport. MMA fans have come to expect a certain level of humility, class, and respect from the fighters. Brock displayed none of these qualities. Dana and team need to put Brock (or is it "Cock"?) through an etiquette class if he is gonna be the face of the HW division. What a bad sport! Brock pushed Herring in the back after the bell of Round 1, started his victory celebration prematurely (and almost got hit) before Round 3 was over, and did that ridiculous fishing/lasso thing after the fight. And THEN made the “rode that horse out of town” comment during the talk with Rogan (vague reference to the Crazy Horse).

He is a brute, but he is also a poor, poor sport. MMA fans have come to expect a certain level of humility, class, and respect from the fighters. Brock displayed none of these qualities. Dana and team need to put Brock (or is it “Cock”?) through an etiquette class if he is gonna be the face of the HW division.

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]]> By: Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43750 Mike Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:11:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43750 Bill Lumberg, Lesnar vs. Kimbo? Are you serious? Kimbo wouldn't last 30 seconds with Brock. Bill Lumberg, Lesnar vs. Kimbo? Are you serious? Kimbo wouldn’t last 30 seconds with Brock.

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]]> By: bp http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43749 bp Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:04:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43749 I am real excited to see Lesnar come off with a victory, I knew the guy is a freakin animal, he just needed to go back and get more training. I didnt really care for him throwing it back in Herring's face after the fight, although it was funny, I think he was just pumped that he got a good win. I was watching many of the interviews with the fighters up to the fight and I remember Herring not talking too much shit, but he did say he thought Brock was real "green" and had a look on his face like he was getting ready to fight an amateur and not Lesnar. Props to Lesnar. I am real excited to see Lesnar come off with a victory, I knew the guy is a freakin animal, he just needed to go back and get more training. I didnt really care for him throwing it back in Herring’s face after the fight, although it was funny, I think he was just pumped that he got a good win. I was watching many of the interviews with the fighters up to the fight and I remember Herring not talking too much shit, but he did say he thought Brock was real “green” and had a look on his face like he was getting ready to fight an amateur and not Lesnar. Props to Lesnar.

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]]> By: Bill Lumberg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43744 Bill Lumberg Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:25:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43744 I wish we could have Lesnar vs Kimbo right Now!!! Lesnar has alot to learn but he has not had an tomato cans like kimbo. good card overall cant wait for the Dec 29th card!! I wish we could have Lesnar vs Kimbo right Now!!! Lesnar has alot to learn but he has not had an tomato cans like kimbo. good card overall cant wait for the Dec 29th card!!

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]]> By: fightfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/brock-lesnar-dominates-heath-herring-at-ufc-87/comment-page-1/#comment-43743 fightfan Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:08:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5211#comment-43743 Oh, and for the "really hurt someone comment. I think that Lesnar may actaully seriously hurt someone in the Octagon someday. That right in the beginning of round 1 was RIDICULIS. It knocked 250 Herring backwards so hard and fast, he completelyrolled!!??!! I never liked WWE or Lesnar, but the character is gonna be a spectacle to watch in the future. I still cant imagine how bad he will throw around a light HW, maybe 225 or so. I'll bet Vera has NO INTENTIONS of moving back to heavyweight now!!! Oh, and for the “really hurt someone comment. I think that Lesnar may actaully seriously hurt someone in the Octagon someday. That right in the beginning of round 1 was RIDICULIS. It knocked 250 Herring backwards so hard and fast, he completelyrolled!!??!!

I never liked WWE or Lesnar, but the character is gonna be a spectacle to watch in the future. I still cant imagine how bad he will throw around a light HW, maybe 225 or so.

I’ll bet Vera has NO INTENTIONS of moving back to heavyweight now!!!

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