Comments on: UFC 87 Thoughts & Commentary http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 14:08:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Revjames13 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-44023 Revjames13 Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:34:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-44023 Amen. Finally a superfight that isn't just speculation. I'm trying to think of what showdown in any sport compares to this. Both guys are so good and they are in their prime. They each have a fan base that totally believes in the superiority of one over the other, but the truth is, right now, we have no idea who actually is and we are going to find out. My money is on Penn, but nobody is going to challenge BJ on every level like GSP will. The winner is going to be in the conversation as the best fighter in the world with AS and Fedor. Amen.

Finally a superfight that isn’t just speculation. I’m trying to think of what showdown in any sport compares to this. Both guys are so good and they are in their prime. They each have a fan base that totally believes in the superiority of one over the other, but the truth is, right now, we have no idea who actually is and we are going to find out.

My money is on Penn, but nobody is going to challenge BJ on every level like GSP will.

The winner is going to be in the conversation as the best fighter in the world with AS and Fedor.

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]]> By: Sergio G. Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-44002 Sergio G. Hernandez Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:32:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-44002 Revjames, I totally agree with you. When rumblings of this fight started about a month ago, there were SO many people up in arms about GSP defending his belt against Fitch and Alves and Sanchez and blah blah blah. These are two of the top four P4P fighters in the world!! Why MMA fans aren't blowing their collective load right now is BEYOND me. And I was going nuts the FIRST time they squared off. Revjames, I totally agree with you.

When rumblings of this fight started about a month ago, there were SO many people up in arms about GSP defending his belt against Fitch and Alves and Sanchez and blah blah blah.

These are two of the top four P4P fighters in the world!! Why MMA fans aren’t blowing their collective load right now is BEYOND me. And I was going nuts the FIRST time they squared off.

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]]> By: Revjames13 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43997 Revjames13 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:01:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43997 For the simple fact that it is one of the best fights in mma history, it should happen as their next fight, with no further ado, so nothing like an injury in a lesser fight screws it up. BJ is the former WW Champ, who took GSP to a razor thin SPLIT decision. In his next bout at WW he was on the doorstep to reclaiming the WW belt before he cracked his rib. In his fight prior to these two in the UFC he won the WW belt by moving up from LW. He is the current LW champ. He does not need to do anything like beat a Diego Sanchez to qualify to fight GSP. They need to fight now to settle who is the superior fighter. Anyone who is not overjoyed that these two of the top 4 P4P are going to fight is not a fan of mixed martial arts. This is one of the best fights ever. For the simple fact that it is one of the best fights in mma history, it should happen as their next fight, with no further ado, so nothing like an injury in a lesser fight screws it up.

BJ is the former WW Champ, who took GSP to a razor thin SPLIT decision. In his next bout at WW he was on the doorstep to reclaiming the WW belt before he cracked his rib. In his fight prior to these two in the UFC he won the WW belt by moving up from LW.

He is the current LW champ. He does not need to do anything like beat a Diego Sanchez to qualify to fight GSP.

They need to fight now to settle who is the superior fighter. Anyone who is not overjoyed that these two of the top 4 P4P are going to fight is not a fan of mixed martial arts. This is one of the best fights ever.

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]]> By: MarDen http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43969 MarDen Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:40:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43969 Response to Revjames13 on August 10th, 2008 2:47 am James, I disagree with your post and here is why; If you ask me, no accomplished fighter has ever looked invinvible, except perhaps Fedor with his ''one'' lost due to a cut (his first professional fight). Wether it be BJ Penn, AS the spider, GSP, the Ice man Lidell, they all have shown that they can be beaten. MMA is an unpredictable sport specialy when two high level opponents meet. Therefore, you are right, in that GSP did not look invincible, but he looked sharp as a knife. Beeting Fitch is no small task, with 22 wins before that fight, and 8 wins in the UFC. GSP did awesome. And, I don't think BJ will be able to beat GSP simply because they fought before, and GSP has his blueprint now. That's one of GSP's strenght, he excells on learning from past fights. When they fought two years ago, I gave the first round to BJ, and two and three to GSP. I think that if not for the unintentional finger poking in GSP's eye, he would of won all three rounds. And, GSP is a much different fighter now. Lastly, I think the reason GSP said he was not a chicken is because he wanted to make sure the public heard it because I have a feeling that the BJ Penn - GSP fight won't happen just yet, and BJ likes to trash talk, therefore, if that happens, he won't be able to say that GSP avoided him. There is a reason why GSP kept on saying ''I'll give a shot to anyone who deserves it''. I for one, don't beleive BJ deserves a title shot at 170. He did not even defend his own belt once, and there is a lot of deserving 155 contenders. Just look at the the spider A Silva, he just took a fight in the LW category. Did he ask for the title shot? Nope, he went on to fight the sandman Irvin, and that was proper. Let BJ fight the nightmare, Alves, or Koscheck, and then, if he wins, let him have a shot at GSP's belt. Regardless, I am convinced that he would get either submissioned, or knocked out by GSP. MS Response to Revjames13 on August 10th, 2008 2:47 am

James, I disagree with your post and here is why; If you ask me, no accomplished fighter has ever looked invinvible, except perhaps Fedor with his ”one” lost due to a cut (his first professional fight). Wether it be BJ Penn, AS the spider, GSP, the Ice man Lidell, they all have shown that they can be beaten. MMA is an unpredictable sport specialy when two high level opponents meet. Therefore, you are right, in that GSP did not look invincible, but he looked sharp as a knife. Beeting Fitch is no small task, with 22 wins before that fight, and 8 wins in the UFC. GSP did awesome.

And, I don’t think BJ will be able to beat GSP simply because they fought before, and GSP has his blueprint now. That’s one of GSP’s strenght, he excells on learning from past fights. When they fought two years ago, I gave the first round to BJ, and two and three to GSP. I think that if not for the unintentional finger poking in GSP’s eye, he would of won all three rounds. And, GSP is a much different fighter now.

Lastly, I think the reason GSP said he was not a chicken is because he wanted to make sure the public heard it because I have a feeling that the BJ Penn – GSP fight won’t happen just yet, and BJ likes to trash talk, therefore, if that happens, he won’t be able to say that GSP avoided him. There is a reason why GSP kept on saying ”I’ll give a shot to anyone who deserves it”. I for one, don’t beleive BJ deserves a title shot at 170. He did not even defend his own belt once, and there is a lot of deserving 155 contenders. Just look at the the spider A Silva, he just took a fight in the LW category. Did he ask for the title shot? Nope, he went on to fight the sandman Irvin, and that was proper. Let BJ fight the nightmare, Alves, or Koscheck, and then, if he wins, let him have a shot at GSP’s belt.

Regardless, I am convinced that he would get either submissioned, or knocked out by GSP.

MS

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]]> By: PokerFace http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43905 PokerFace Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:13:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43905 Bj is the second best WW in the world even though his ideal weight is LW. I do believe that there should be fewer pounds between classes, like LWW @ 162 or something like that & HWW @178 or LMW.To some of the babyfatters, it doesn't matter much, but the ones with solid ripped bodies that have to cut15-30 lbs would feel much better in a fight not having to cut so much. Then you would see everyones TRUE potential. Even though there aren't enough fighters, Lesnar belongs in a Super Heavy Weight class, but that poses a problem of fighting the big huge fat tubs of lard that move like a slug. Bj is the second best WW in the world even though his ideal weight is LW. I do believe that there should be fewer pounds between classes, like LWW @ 162 or something like that & HWW @178 or LMW.To some of the babyfatters, it doesn’t matter much, but the ones with solid ripped bodies that have to cut15-30 lbs would feel much better in a fight not having to cut so much. Then you would see everyones TRUE potential.

Even though there aren’t enough fighters, Lesnar belongs in a Super Heavy Weight class, but that poses a problem of fighting the big huge fat tubs of lard that move like a slug.

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43883 dpk Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:41:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43883 Voridor- if you disagree that Fitch is the 2nd best WW in the world, you have to throw a name out there of who you think is better. Some people are just getting way ahead of themselves. One or two fight doesn't make an MMA fighter, otherwise Houston Alexander would be the greatest thing ever, it is about a total body of work. I'm very impressed with Lesnar, I think by this time next year he will be fighting for the title and probably winning it, but let's see him beat Coleman, Kongo, and then someone with some submission's before we say that he is in the same league as Fedor. I'm just going to comment on this because it was already brought up, people blaming UFC for not signing Fedor, and other people blaming Fedor. IMO, UFC offered Fedor a $1 million signing bonus, and $1.5 million per fight, but Fedor said no because he couldn't compete in SAMBO matches outside of UFC, and UFC held the right to cut him if he lost. Honestly for that much money, Fedor could hold Sambo tourneys in his basement if he really wants to compete, and Dana White never has to know, and seriously, if you are going to be the highest paid fighter in the sport by far, then a loss or two is going to get you bumped off of that pay scale, that is just reality, negotiate some kind of fall back price, maybe one that includes a win bonus so that can't cut you unless you lose 2 times. Dana has said that Fedor is the only non roster fighter he wants, that tells me there is some serious room for negotiation. Fedor isn't dodging anyone in UFC, but once he is done with the AA, Barnett crowd he isn't going to be able to make that claim anymore, and by that time Lesnar, Velasquez, and Carwin should be close to ready and waiting. Voridor- if you disagree that Fitch is the 2nd best WW in the world, you have to throw a name out there of who you think is better.

Some people are just getting way ahead of themselves. One or two fight doesn’t make an MMA fighter, otherwise Houston Alexander would be the greatest thing ever, it is about a total body of work. I’m very impressed with Lesnar, I think by this time next year he will be fighting for the title and probably winning it, but let’s see him beat Coleman, Kongo, and then someone with some submission’s before we say that he is in the same league as Fedor.

I’m just going to comment on this because it was already brought up, people blaming UFC for not signing Fedor, and other people blaming Fedor. IMO, UFC offered Fedor a $1 million signing bonus, and $1.5 million per fight, but Fedor said no because he couldn’t compete in SAMBO matches outside of UFC, and UFC held the right to cut him if he lost. Honestly for that much money, Fedor could hold Sambo tourneys in his basement if he really wants to compete, and Dana White never has to know, and seriously, if you are going to be the highest paid fighter in the sport by far, then a loss or two is going to get you bumped off of that pay scale, that is just reality, negotiate some kind of fall back price, maybe one that includes a win bonus so that can’t cut you unless you lose 2 times. Dana has said that Fedor is the only non roster fighter he wants, that tells me there is some serious room for negotiation. Fedor isn’t dodging anyone in UFC, but once he is done with the AA, Barnett crowd he isn’t going to be able to make that claim anymore, and by that time Lesnar, Velasquez, and Carwin should be close to ready and waiting.

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]]> By: joe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43867 joe Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:05:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43867 I agree with some of you all about the way lesner acted in cage,but i believe the wwe hasnt fully got out of him YET.I beleive with more experiance and time in octagon that will go away ,and his skills will only get more devastating.The guy is a human bull,and in time will be able to wrap them huge arms around a neck and one good squeeze they will tap or nap. I agree with some of you all about the way lesner acted in cage,but i believe the wwe hasnt fully got out of him YET.I beleive with more experiance and time in octagon that will go away ,and his skills will only get more devastating.The guy is a human bull,and in time will be able to wrap them huge arms around a neck and one good squeeze they will tap or nap.

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]]> By: Voridor http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43865 Voridor Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:40:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43865 I disagree that Fitch is the second best welterweight in the world. Emerson looked surprised when he won. I think he honestly didn't think it would end like that. He earned the win, but the anvil is a better overall fighter. I felt good when Brock won because now he has his feet wet and the nerves can calm down. I was so pumped for this card, one of the best in recent times. I disagree that Fitch is the second best welterweight in the world. Emerson looked surprised when he won. I think he honestly didn’t think it would end like that. He earned the win, but the anvil is a better overall fighter.

I felt good when Brock won because now he has his feet wet and the nerves can calm down. I was so pumped for this card, one of the best in recent times.

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43854 Jackyl Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:29:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43854 Anyone else notice the slicked up production? They seemed to have new graphics and the fighter stats thing was new as well. I thought it was one of the most solid cards of the year. The Demian Maia vs Jason McDonald fight was great. I loved the back and forth in that fight. All the feature bouts lived up to their hype and had some great action all the way through. Including the five round war of GSP and Fitch! I think they did a great job and showed everyone why they are at the top of the MMA ladder. Anyone else notice the slicked up production? They seemed to have new graphics and the fighter stats thing was new as well.

I thought it was one of the most solid cards of the year. The Demian Maia vs Jason McDonald fight was great. I loved the back and forth in that fight.

All the feature bouts lived up to their hype and had some great action all the way through. Including the five round war of GSP and Fitch! I think they did a great job and showed everyone why they are at the top of the MMA ladder.

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]]> By: BK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43852 BK Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:02:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43852 This recap is on another level. This recap is on another level.

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]]> By: Tom_Biggins http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43843 Tom_Biggins Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:01:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43843 I was at UFC 87, drove all the way up from TN for the show, and believe me, the 13 hour drive was worth it. The crowd was great, I was lucky enough to get seated next to very knowledgable fans, and we started most of the chants to get everyone rallied together. I also met BJ Penn in a taco shop...I always thought he'd be kind of a dick...I was so wrong. He's an awesome guy and was kind, not to mention he is in great shape, when he put his arm around me, it was like getting hugged by a brick wall. Haha. We got great pictures also, I hope to be getting them up sometime soon and would gladly get some pictures on the web for you guys to see. Oh, and Minneapolis + Brock Lesnar= insane amount of electricity. I was at UFC 87, drove all the way up from TN for the show, and believe me, the 13 hour drive was worth it.

The crowd was great, I was lucky enough to get seated next to very knowledgable fans, and we started most of the chants to get everyone rallied together.

I also met BJ Penn in a taco shop…I always thought he’d be kind of a dick…I was so wrong. He’s an awesome guy and was kind, not to mention he is in great shape, when he put his arm around me, it was like getting hugged by a brick wall. Haha.

We got great pictures also, I hope to be getting them up sometime soon and would gladly get some pictures on the web for you guys to see.

Oh, and Minneapolis + Brock Lesnar= insane amount of electricity.

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]]> By: Warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43839 Warcry Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:04:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43839 Me and a friend went back a forth on the gsp vs fitch fight. I believed Fitch would push St. Pierre further than anyone else. He did. Both fighters were elevated from the contest. Brock Lesnar is gonna maim someone in the Octagon one day hope the paramedics will be near by in his future fights. Poor Heavyweight Division, there will be some ass-whuppins administered by Lesnar for years to come. The most lackluster division in the UFC just got some glitz and some glame. The first tv fight was a buffet of high-end grappling with Damian Meia showing he is in a class all his own on the ground. Roger Huerta got showed the level of skill necessary to be the top guy. Did you see that 'Don't mess with the Zohan' kick Kenny landed on Huerta that had to really humiliate old Rog. Me and a friend went back a forth on the gsp vs fitch fight. I believed Fitch would push St. Pierre further than anyone else. He did. Both fighters were elevated from the contest. Brock Lesnar is gonna maim someone in the Octagon one day hope the paramedics will be near by in his future fights. Poor Heavyweight Division, there will be some ass-whuppins administered by Lesnar for years to come. The most lackluster division in the UFC just got some glitz and some glame. The first tv fight was a buffet of high-end grappling with Damian Meia showing he is in a class all his own on the ground. Roger Huerta got showed the level of skill necessary to be the top guy. Did you see that ‘Don’t mess with the Zohan’ kick Kenny landed on Huerta that had to really humiliate old Rog.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43822 Rich S. Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:44:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43822 I'm pretty sure you could Jon Fitch in the head with a sledge hammer and he would just laugh at you.. one of the best chins i've seen in a while.. I’m pretty sure you could Jon Fitch in the head with a sledge hammer and he would just laugh at you..

one of the best chins i’ve seen in a while..

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43820 Rich S. Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:09:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43820 oh and, you have no idea how much joy just rushed my body when i saw Manny take that BRUTAL left hand on the ground.. seriously, that's one of the sickest things i've ever seen in my life.. thank you Rob, for giving me the joy of seeing Manny Knocked the F*** Out!!!! oh and, you have no idea how much joy just rushed my body when i saw Manny take that BRUTAL left hand on the ground..

seriously, that’s one of the sickest things i’ve ever seen in my life..

thank you Rob, for giving me the joy of seeing Manny Knocked the F*** Out!!!!

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43819 Rich S. Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:06:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43819 i've gotta see this Cummo fight.. i don't understand.. Luke did so good on TUF, and put up such a struggle against Stevenson.. i mean, you know the guys' got skill.. he's got KO power and he trains with serra [meaning, he has good sub's] i can understand losing to Goulet, but Luigi? no.. and Tamdan?? HeEeEeEeEeEeEllllllll nooooo!! personally, i had Cummo via TKO r1.. i don't know what's wrong here, i like luke, but, i'm sure he won't be here much longer.. i’ve gotta see this Cummo fight..
i don’t understand..

Luke did so good on TUF, and put up such a struggle against Stevenson.. i mean, you know the guys’ got skill.. he’s got KO power and he trains with serra [meaning, he has good sub's]

i can understand losing to Goulet, but Luigi? no.. and Tamdan?? HeEeEeEeEeEeEllllllll nooooo!!

personally, i had Cummo via TKO r1..
i don’t know what’s wrong here, i like luke, but, i’m sure he won’t be here much longer..

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]]> By: Joey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43809 Joey Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:46:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43809 Cyph - HAHA I thought for the most part UFC has been putting on decent shows, not great ones. But I've found alot of the DREAM cards and WEC events and even the last CBS show to be better than the average UFC show. That being said this last card was awesome. There were several interesting and exciting matches. GSP, i hate his style of fighting and the fact that he couldn't finish was lame, but watching Fitch keep coming back had to have you pumped. The lead up and first minute of the Lesnar fight was insane, the knees to the body were sickening, even some of his kicks sounded devastating. Did you see Herrings face, damn. Yeah he did LNP but there was some excitement here and there and the electricity was crazy. Huerta and Florian I thought was a pretty good fight. Emerson Manny was hilarious and exciting though ridiculously short. Of course, the Maia fight was good. Kongo fight I wasn't interested in but alot of people thought it was good. If you think this card sucked its either because all of your fighters lost OR you are biased against the UFC and want to bitch. That just makes you as bad as the UFC fanboys that are retarded with their whole, "Fedor is ducking Carwin and Velasquez" statements. Do what i did, root for Fitch but bet on GSP that way you aren't disappointed. Cyph – HAHA

I thought for the most part UFC has been putting on decent shows, not great ones. But I’ve found alot of the DREAM cards and WEC events and even the last CBS show to be better than the average UFC show. That being said this last card was awesome.

There were several interesting and exciting matches. GSP, i hate his style of fighting and the fact that he couldn’t finish was lame, but watching Fitch keep coming back had to have you pumped.

The lead up and first minute of the Lesnar fight was insane, the knees to the body were sickening, even some of his kicks sounded devastating. Did you see Herrings face, damn. Yeah he did LNP but there was some excitement here and there and the electricity was crazy.

Huerta and Florian I thought was a pretty good fight. Emerson Manny was hilarious and exciting though ridiculously short. Of course, the Maia fight was good. Kongo fight I wasn’t interested in but alot of people thought it was good.

If you think this card sucked its either because all of your fighters lost OR you are biased against the UFC and want to bitch. That just makes you as bad as the UFC fanboys that are retarded with their whole, “Fedor is ducking Carwin and Velasquez” statements.

Do what i did, root for Fitch but bet on GSP that way you aren’t disappointed.

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]]> By: 5percentbodyfat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43803 5percentbodyfat Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:12:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43803 I promise no long comment but here are a couple questions up for debate: 1. Sam, he's your boy and I know this, but didn't last night squash the GSP is better than Silva talk. Really, how many times has Silva let a fight go past 2 rounds? Silva has also beaten two strong number two contenders in Henderson and Franklin and both only lasted two rounds. 2. Brock Lesnar will beat anyone on the planet ..... in a year or two. Simply put, he had Herring's back for the entire night and didn't once go for the choke. Even Kimbo Slice knows how to go for a simple choke. There will be times when the ref calls for the fighters to stand up, and Lesnar would have to do it all over again. Next, what happens if for some reason his physical abilities fail him, such as in a five round championship fight. 3. Huerta's bank account took a big hit last night. I wonder what hurts more? I promise no long comment but here are a couple questions up for debate:

1. Sam, he’s your boy and I know this, but didn’t last night squash the GSP is better than Silva talk. Really, how many times has Silva let a fight go past 2 rounds? Silva has also beaten two strong number two contenders in Henderson and Franklin and both only lasted two rounds.

2. Brock Lesnar will beat anyone on the planet ….. in a year or two. Simply put, he had Herring’s back for the entire night and didn’t once go for the choke. Even Kimbo Slice knows how to go for a simple choke. There will be times when the ref calls for the fighters to stand up, and Lesnar would have to do it all over again. Next, what happens if for some reason his physical abilities fail him, such as in a five round championship fight.

3. Huerta’s bank account took a big hit last night. I wonder what hurts more?

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]]> By: Echolocating http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43801 Echolocating Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:59:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43801 EDIT: "...the loss still raised Fitch's stock." EDIT: “…the loss still raised Fitch’s stock.”

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]]> By: Echolocating http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43800 Echolocating Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:57:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43800 JJ Docker wrote: "No GSP was “amazing” and there was a winner in that fight; GSP. I have a lot of respect for Fitch but he got resoundly beaten tonight and GSP deserves more praise than “GSP is simply GSP” for his years of dedication, training and immense skill level. If Fitch hadn’t been beaten as he was tonight his “heart of lion” would never have been apparent. Fitch is easily the second best welterweight in the world (at least until BJ and GSP fight) but GSP needs to be admired in the same way that Anderson Silva is." Calm down, buddy. You're preaching to the choir here. I was just giving Jon Fitch a compliment on how he handled himself against GSP. There's a reason it got Fight of the Night honors. The reason I said there was no loser is that Fitch showed us that he is the second best and his title shot was well deserved. In many ways, the lose still raised Fitch's stock in the UFC. JJ Docker wrote: “No GSP was “amazing” and there was a winner in that fight; GSP. I have a lot of respect for Fitch but he got resoundly beaten tonight and GSP deserves more praise than “GSP is simply GSP” for his years of dedication, training and immense skill level. If Fitch hadn’t been beaten as he was tonight his “heart of lion” would never have been apparent. Fitch is easily the second best welterweight in the world (at least until BJ and GSP fight) but GSP needs to be admired in the same way that Anderson Silva is.”

Calm down, buddy. You’re preaching to the choir here. I was just giving Jon Fitch a compliment on how he handled himself against GSP. There’s a reason it got Fight of the Night honors. The reason I said there was no loser is that Fitch showed us that he is the second best and his title shot was well deserved. In many ways, the lose still raised Fitch’s stock in the UFC.

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]]> By: mikee http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/10/ufc-87-thoughts-commentary/comment-page-1/#comment-43793 mikee Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:13:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5216#comment-43793 You personally liked Lesnar's post fight antics? What the hell is wrong with you? He looked like a little spoiled brat ass piece of crap preppy kid that looks like a stuttering turd when he looses then is the loudest most obnoxious annoying disrespectful idiot when he wins. I never ever want to see him win again and personally he isn't good enough and hasn't paid his dues in the octagon where I even care to see him fight again after last night........ever. I hate when fighters do that crap when there is time left in the fight, yes, you won, be happy and celebrate but give your opponent his due respect for being a warrior. I mean, you couldn't even finish him, how happy can you be? What a turd. Him and Huerta both, little spoiled bitch ass brats. Excuse the cursing, it was just a very very poor showing of sportmanship, respect, and discipline.........some of the major principles the foundation of this sport was built on. Martial Arts?!?!?!?!? You personally liked Lesnar’s post fight antics? What the hell is wrong with you? He looked like a little spoiled brat ass piece of crap preppy kid that looks like a stuttering turd when he looses then is the loudest most obnoxious annoying disrespectful idiot when he wins. I never ever want to see him win again and personally he isn’t good enough and hasn’t paid his dues in the octagon where I even care to see him fight again after last night……..ever. I hate when fighters do that crap when there is time left in the fight, yes, you won, be happy and celebrate but give your opponent his due respect for being a warrior. I mean, you couldn’t even finish him, how happy can you be? What a turd. Him and Huerta both, little spoiled bitch ass brats. Excuse the cursing, it was just a very very poor showing of sportmanship, respect, and discipline………some of the major principles the foundation of this sport was built on. Martial Arts?!?!?!?!?

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