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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jdavis, if you&#039;re suggesting that because Pro Wrestling in JAPAN is linked to MMA, that somehow proves that Pro Wrestling in AMERICA is an ancestor of MMA... that&#039;s just disingenuous. Pro wrestling in Japan is a very different beast, its common there for pro wrestlers to compete in actual combat sports train real fight skills. its a different culture than American pro wrestling as I think you well know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdavis, if you&#8217;re suggesting that because Pro Wrestling in JAPAN is linked to MMA, that somehow proves that Pro Wrestling in AMERICA is an ancestor of MMA&#8230; that&#8217;s just disingenuous. Pro wrestling in Japan is a very different beast, its common there for pro wrestlers to compete in actual combat sports train real fight skills. its a different culture than American pro wrestling as I think you well know.
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Boston Blackie on August 11th, 2008 4:58 pm

JR knows who BJ Penn is, for God’s sake. He said BJ Noons. Big Deal. He also acknowledged BJ was from Hawaii. How does he not know who BJ is by looking at him, but knows where he’s from?&quot;

KJ Noons is also from Hawaii, so JR definitely could still have been confused about who he was talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Boston Blackie on August 11th, 2008 4:58 pm</p>
<p>JR knows who BJ Penn is, for God’s sake. He said BJ Noons. Big Deal. He also acknowledged BJ was from Hawaii. How does he not know who BJ is by looking at him, but knows where he’s from?&#8221;</p>
<p>KJ Noons is also from Hawaii, so JR definitely could still have been confused about who he was talking about.
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		<title>By: ChrisC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great posts, jdavis. very insightful, informative and to the point. You make reading the whole comment section worth the time. It was worth shifting through some  nonsense fanboy crap.

Anyway, I totally agree with you guys about JR&#039;s credentials. He wasn&#039;t steppin&#039; over the line, he was simply offering us his expertise on production values and PPV business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great posts, jdavis. very insightful, informative and to the point. You make reading the whole comment section worth the time. It was worth shifting through some  nonsense fanboy crap.</p>
<p>Anyway, I totally agree with you guys about JR&#8217;s credentials. He wasn&#8217;t steppin&#8217; over the line, he was simply offering us his expertise on production values and PPV business.
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		<title>By: jdavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several MMA stars use Catch Wrestling as their style and/or crossed over from pro wrestling to MMA (Sakuraba or Josh Barnett are good examples of pro wrestler cross over success). So there is a definite link between MMA and pro wrestling through classic Catch Wrestling. 

Japanese organizations were not only started by pro wrestlers but they also took a lot from pro wresting into their organizations. Shoot wrestling was the foundation that they were based on, the whole idea of &quot;what if we did pro wrestling for real&quot;.  When Pancrase started they used a version of pro wrestling rules even. Heck in Japan where there isn&#039;t a cultural stigma against pro wrestling the two still cross over each other all the time. 

For the same reason many pro wrestling fans crossed over to MMA, they got tired of the &quot;fake fighting&quot; and wanted to see what it would be like if the guys were doing it for real. Yes MMA is really a mixture of many martial arts but then people have been faking that mixture of martial arts in pro wrestling too. MMA is what pro wrestling would of been if it hadn&#039;t of gone the way of predetermined outcomes and showboating all those decades ago. 

The business models between pro wrestling and MMA are similar in a lot of ways, which is understandable as so many organizations and promoters came out of that system(particularly in Japan) but there are also a lot of differences too. For one MMA fighters don&#039;t have to work on the road 300+ days a year or fight three times a week. The productions of MMA and pro wrestling also have a lot of similarities although the UFC has went away from many of the frills and cheap affects that pro wrestling seems to live for. Still a WWE ppv and a UFC ppv are both going to have a lot of similarities, which only makes sense seeing as they are both catering to the same basic age demographics and overlapping fan base. 

So there is a MMA link to the skills department of pro wrestling through catch wrestling, there is a link to the history of MMA and it&#039;s development and between wrestling fans and MMA fans and there is a business link that could be drawn too. The question is where isn&#039;t there a link between pro wrestling and MMA? 

Of course all that is pretty irrelevant as to why veteran commentator Jim Ross has some insight into how UFC ppvs should be organized being as working ppvs is what he&#039;s been doing for the last 20 years. Ross wasn&#039;t bringing any pro wrestling knowledge over into his column he was bringing his thoughts as a fan and his experience working successful ppv events. Your hating of pro wrestling is pretty irrelevant as to why his column had interest and value as a article here, the guy is a expert at announcing and the PPV business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several MMA stars use Catch Wrestling as their style and/or crossed over from pro wrestling to MMA (Sakuraba or Josh Barnett are good examples of pro wrestler cross over success). So there is a definite link between MMA and pro wrestling through classic Catch Wrestling. </p>
<p>Japanese organizations were not only started by pro wrestlers but they also took a lot from pro wresting into their organizations. Shoot wrestling was the foundation that they were based on, the whole idea of &#8220;what if we did pro wrestling for real&#8221;.  When Pancrase started they used a version of pro wrestling rules even. Heck in Japan where there isn&#8217;t a cultural stigma against pro wrestling the two still cross over each other all the time. </p>
<p>For the same reason many pro wrestling fans crossed over to MMA, they got tired of the &#8220;fake fighting&#8221; and wanted to see what it would be like if the guys were doing it for real. Yes MMA is really a mixture of many martial arts but then people have been faking that mixture of martial arts in pro wrestling too. MMA is what pro wrestling would of been if it hadn&#8217;t of gone the way of predetermined outcomes and showboating all those decades ago. </p>
<p>The business models between pro wrestling and MMA are similar in a lot of ways, which is understandable as so many organizations and promoters came out of that system(particularly in Japan) but there are also a lot of differences too. For one MMA fighters don&#8217;t have to work on the road 300+ days a year or fight three times a week. The productions of MMA and pro wrestling also have a lot of similarities although the UFC has went away from many of the frills and cheap affects that pro wrestling seems to live for. Still a WWE ppv and a UFC ppv are both going to have a lot of similarities, which only makes sense seeing as they are both catering to the same basic age demographics and overlapping fan base. </p>
<p>So there is a MMA link to the skills department of pro wrestling through catch wrestling, there is a link to the history of MMA and it&#8217;s development and between wrestling fans and MMA fans and there is a business link that could be drawn too. The question is where isn&#8217;t there a link between pro wrestling and MMA? </p>
<p>Of course all that is pretty irrelevant as to why veteran commentator Jim Ross has some insight into how UFC ppvs should be organized being as working ppvs is what he&#8217;s been doing for the last 20 years. Ross wasn&#8217;t bringing any pro wrestling knowledge over into his column he was bringing his thoughts as a fan and his experience working successful ppv events. Your hating of pro wrestling is pretty irrelevant as to why his column had interest and value as a article here, the guy is a expert at announcing and the PPV business.
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		<title>By: doribello5</title>
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		<dc:creator>doribello5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the post fight interview in the octagon supposed to be kind of crazy anyway?  

I thought the post fight press conference interviews were where it&#039;s at.  Besides, if we give the fans everything they need all on the Pay Per View show then why would people get on here on the internet on sites like fiveounces and check for more information?  

There&#039;s a time and a place for everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the post fight interview in the octagon supposed to be kind of crazy anyway?  </p>
<p>I thought the post fight press conference interviews were where it&#8217;s at.  Besides, if we give the fans everything they need all on the Pay Per View show then why would people get on here on the internet on sites like fiveounces and check for more information?  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a time and a place for everything.
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		<title>By: Eburg T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eburg T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The promotional model more closely resembles pro wrestling than the other comparison candidate, boxing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The promotional model more closely resembles pro wrestling than the other comparison candidate, boxing.
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		<title>By: Sergio G. Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio G. Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The models are totally different.

Wrestling has always been some form of traveling circus.  Decades ago, only the big draws, your bearded ladies and crab boys and liontamers, traveled from city to city but now the entire big top goes from city to city.

The UFC, at least Zuffa-era UFC, firmly established themselves in Las Vegas before heading out.  And when they did, they tested the waters and did one show here or one show there before heading back to Sin City.  Even now as more and more shows are happening in Jersey, California, Minnesota, Illinois, etc, Vegas is still very much their home.

And I actually had another paragraph defending their connection when I came to the realization that pro wrestling sprang from MMA or rather, real fighting.

I mean, think about it... fighting is the oldest form of competition known to man.  Cavemen were fighting it out before they could speak.  Eventually someone got the idea to script a fight with emphasis on the drama and somehow make money of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The models are totally different.</p>
<p>Wrestling has always been some form of traveling circus.  Decades ago, only the big draws, your bearded ladies and crab boys and liontamers, traveled from city to city but now the entire big top goes from city to city.</p>
<p>The UFC, at least Zuffa-era UFC, firmly established themselves in Las Vegas before heading out.  And when they did, they tested the waters and did one show here or one show there before heading back to Sin City.  Even now as more and more shows are happening in Jersey, California, Minnesota, Illinois, etc, Vegas is still very much their home.</p>
<p>And I actually had another paragraph defending their connection when I came to the realization that pro wrestling sprang from MMA or rather, real fighting.</p>
<p>I mean, think about it&#8230; fighting is the oldest form of competition known to man.  Cavemen were fighting it out before they could speak.  Eventually someone got the idea to script a fight with emphasis on the drama and somehow make money of it.
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		<title>By: Eburg T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eburg T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sergio, at best one could say that MMA&#039;s &lt;i&gt;promotional model&lt;/i&gt; may have borrowed heavily from pro wrestling, but I think you&#039;d be hard pressed to say that&#039;s been a good thing for fighters, the sport, or anyone who doesn&#039;t have the last name &quot;White&quot; or &quot;Fertitta.&quot;

As for the sport itself, I still say it has nothing to do with pro wrestling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergio, at best one could say that MMA&#8217;s <i>promotional model</i> may have borrowed heavily from pro wrestling, but I think you&#8217;d be hard pressed to say that&#8217;s been a good thing for fighters, the sport, or anyone who doesn&#8217;t have the last name &#8220;White&#8221; or &#8220;Fertitta.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the sport itself, I still say it has nothing to do with pro wrestling.
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		<title>By: Sergio G. Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio G. Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eburg, no one is using the term &quot;roots&quot; but you.

No one is saying that one day back in 1914 a bunch of pro wrestlers got together and said, &quot;Hey, let&#039;s do this shit but FOR REAL!&quot; and that&#039;s how MMA started.

But to deny the very obvious connection between the two sports (more subtle in the US than in Japan, I&#039;ll give you that) is crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eburg, no one is using the term &#8220;roots&#8221; but you.</p>
<p>No one is saying that one day back in 1914 a bunch of pro wrestlers got together and said, &#8220;Hey, let&#8217;s do this shit but FOR REAL!&#8221; and that&#8217;s how MMA started.</p>
<p>But to deny the very obvious connection between the two sports (more subtle in the US than in Japan, I&#8217;ll give you that) is crazy.
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