Comments on: Tito Ortiz back on the open market http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 14:08:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Imbecile http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45105 Imbecile Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:00:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45105 @ tallsforeverybody "takedown+gnp is Kimbo's achilles heel." I agree with your point, but that is a pretty funny statement, "Kimbo's achilles heel." You probably didn't mean it like this, but when I think of an achilles heel it is kind of their one weakness. As though if it were not for one thing, Kimbo would otherwise be unbeatable. Kimbo needs work on his hands, his power, his wrestling, his jiu-jitsu, his escapes, his sweeps, his submissions, his submission defense, his transitions, his cardio, etc. In fact, I would say MMA is Kimbo's achilles heel. Otherwise, he is awesome! ;) @ tallsforeverybody

“takedown+gnp is Kimbo’s achilles heel.”

I agree with your point, but that is a pretty funny statement, “Kimbo’s achilles heel.” You probably didn’t mean it like this, but when I think of an achilles heel it is kind of their one weakness. As though if it were not for one thing, Kimbo would otherwise be unbeatable. Kimbo needs work on his hands, his power, his wrestling, his jiu-jitsu, his escapes, his sweeps, his submissions, his submission defense, his transitions, his cardio, etc.

In fact, I would say MMA is Kimbo’s achilles heel. Otherwise, he is awesome! ;)

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]]> By: tallsforeverybody http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45092 tallsforeverybody Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:36:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45092 Ouch stevefiji...Kimbo v. Tito would be a horrible match up for Kimbo. The only thing Tito is good at, takedown+gnp, is Kimbo's achilles heel. I'd watch it though! Ouch stevefiji…Kimbo v. Tito would be a horrible match up for Kimbo. The only thing Tito is good at, takedown+gnp, is Kimbo’s achilles heel.

I’d watch it though!

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]]> By: Austin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45087 Austin Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:07:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45087 Stevefiji: Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante would decimate Ortiz the second the bell rings. Ortiz would not be able to hang with the 205's in ProElite. Feijao looks like a young Shogun. Stevefiji: Rafael “Feijao” Cavalcante would decimate Ortiz the second the bell rings. Ortiz would not be able to hang with the 205′s in ProElite.
Feijao looks like a young Shogun.

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]]> By: Powers http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45086 Powers Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:05:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45086 Is it to much to ask him to retire and manage fighters? Is it to much to ask him to retire and manage fighters?

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45071 stevefiji Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:17:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45071 Tito in the UFC would be awesome, Dana will torture him for at least another 18 months... his own personal pin cushion only the pins are fists of any sprawl enabled striker and Dana just adds insult to injury after each beat down. That is high comedy. Nope, Tito will sign with Elite... they need each other, Affliction has almost no credible fights for Tito and he will bring little to a PPV...but Tito will bring a massive TV audience for sure.. they will insinuate all sorts of extra marketing stuff and side deals have been made (which were never actually done) so Tito saves face with the public about his needs being met and then Tito moves up and takes on Kimbo (who has been fed 2 more donuts in the mean time) and in Tito's second or 3rd fight with Elite, he moves up in weight and does the honors of taking out Kimbo .... Elite has themselves another 2 or 3 huge TV shows with Tito after that... This all makes too much sense. Tito in the UFC would be awesome, Dana will torture him for at least another 18 months… his own personal pin cushion only the pins are fists of any sprawl enabled striker and Dana just adds insult to injury after each beat down. That is high comedy.

Nope, Tito will sign with Elite… they need each other, Affliction has almost no credible fights for Tito and he will bring little to a PPV…but Tito will bring a massive TV audience for sure.. they will insinuate all sorts of extra marketing stuff and side deals have been made (which were never actually done) so Tito saves face with the public about his needs being met and then Tito moves up and takes on Kimbo (who has been fed 2 more donuts in the mean time) and in Tito’s second or 3rd fight with Elite, he moves up in weight and does the honors of taking out Kimbo …. Elite has themselves another 2 or 3 huge TV shows with Tito after that… This all makes too much sense.

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]]> By: sven http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45058 sven Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:13:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45058 I say he should sign with the WWE or perhaps TNA because he's got alot more skill with a mic than he does in the ring. I say he should sign with the WWE or perhaps TNA because he’s got alot more skill with a mic than he does in the ring.

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]]> By: Warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45057 Warcry Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:48:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45057 I say bring him back to the UFC let him be the gatekeeper of the LHw division. He'd be the litmus test to see if an up and comer( Forrest, Rashad,) is ready for Top 10/ title contention. The Brookyln Brawler of MMA. I say bring him back to the UFC let him be the gatekeeper of the LHw division. He’d be the litmus test to see if an up and comer( Forrest, Rashad,) is ready for Top 10/ title contention. The Brookyln Brawler of MMA.

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]]> By: Johnny Lawrence http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45051 Johnny Lawrence Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:27:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45051 Tito is also getting an offer from Vivid Entertainment. Tito is also getting an offer from Vivid Entertainment.

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]]> By: Kevin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45046 Kevin Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:17:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45046 The world's best fighter is Fedor The world’s best fighter is Fedor

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]]> By: the sheik http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45039 the sheik Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:12:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45039 the hell you talkin bout Anderson Silva not bein marketable. Its VERY easy to market the worlds best fighter, regardless of the language barrier. I dont get ppl sometimes. the hell you talkin bout Anderson Silva not bein marketable. Its VERY easy to market the worlds best fighter, regardless of the language barrier. I dont get ppl sometimes.

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]]> By: jdavis http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45037 jdavis Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:49:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45037 Tito and Dana run their mouths about all sorts of stuff and Tito says he's going to fight somewhere else but in the end he's back talking to the UFC because that's where the money and the name recognition is, pretty much the same song and dance from 2005. Tito will go where the most money is put on the table and regardless of what Dana feels about Tito as a person he will put him back in the cage if he thinks it will make the UFC money. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tito not only back in the UFC but coaching TUF again in the future. Tito and Dana run their mouths about all sorts of stuff and Tito says he’s going to fight somewhere else but in the end he’s back talking to the UFC because that’s where the money and the name recognition is, pretty much the same song and dance from 2005. Tito will go where the most money is put on the table and regardless of what Dana feels about Tito as a person he will put him back in the cage if he thinks it will make the UFC money. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tito not only back in the UFC but coaching TUF again in the future.

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]]> By: dsid http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45031 dsid Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:45:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45031 Man, I really hope they don't allow pumpkin-head back in the UFC. I'm more tired of hearing about him than anything else in MMA (yes, even more than the Randy vs. Fedor endless crap). Not only can Tito not beat any of the solid (much less, top) LHWs in the UFC anymore, but he's also become a tremendously boring fighter. The game has evolved beyond him and I agree with those who say he really doesn't want to fight anymore. He just wants the attention. I say let him go. Man, I really hope they don’t allow pumpkin-head back in the UFC. I’m more tired of hearing about him than anything else in MMA (yes, even more than the Randy vs. Fedor endless crap). Not only can Tito not beat any of the solid (much less, top) LHWs in the UFC anymore, but he’s also become a tremendously boring fighter. The game has evolved beyond him and I agree with those who say he really doesn’t want to fight anymore. He just wants the attention. I say let him go.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45022 darkmetal Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:50:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45022 I don't know if it is worth it. Sure Tito has a name, and he can certainly deliver in the Bravado dept., but why pay the guy a fortune to be nothing more than a punching bag? I see the UFC as a place where fighters can come and hopefully ascend to the championship. What good is a fighter who really has no chance to ever see that mark again? And certainly Tito is shopping around asking for a literal fortune to sign. And if Affliction bailed, then he must be asking for WAY more than the UFC would ante up. I don’t know if it is worth it. Sure Tito has a name, and he can certainly deliver in the Bravado dept., but why pay the guy a fortune to be nothing more than a punching bag? I see the UFC as a place where fighters can come and hopefully ascend to the championship. What good is a fighter who really has no chance to ever see that mark again?

And certainly Tito is shopping around asking for a literal fortune to sign. And if Affliction bailed, then he must be asking for WAY more than the UFC would ante up.

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]]> By: bubbafat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45019 bubbafat Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:27:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45019 I think the most likely outcome is Tito going back to the UFC. What else could happen? The AFC is not a viable option for stock like a "Tito Ortiz". Sure they signed Tara La Rosa, but for way more money than she can bring in. And who the heck is Bobby Lashley? Has he even fought yet? Anyways, Tito sorted out the huge contract with the golden parachute for Affliction, then Attencio comes out and basically says the contract is not feasible so he doesn't sign. Leaving Tito hangin'.Elite doesn't look like it's going to be making any moves. And to top it all off, Lorenzo is the man calling the shots at UFC HQ now, while DW's kept on as just a figure head. The result's of losing 1/2 his ranked HW's, not to mention his other unhappy investments. Process of elimination leads Tito to re-sign if he ever wants to fight AND get exposure at the same time. And you can bet your ass that contract will require him to keep his mouth shut I think the most likely outcome is Tito going back to the UFC. What else could happen? The AFC is not a viable option for stock like a “Tito Ortiz”. Sure they signed Tara La Rosa, but for way more money than she can bring in. And who the heck is Bobby Lashley? Has he even fought yet? Anyways, Tito sorted out the huge contract with the golden parachute for Affliction, then Attencio comes out and basically says the contract is not feasible so he doesn’t sign. Leaving Tito hangin’.Elite doesn’t look like it’s going to be making any moves. And to top it all off, Lorenzo is the man calling the shots at UFC HQ now, while DW’s kept on as just a figure head. The result’s of losing 1/2 his ranked HW’s, not to mention his other unhappy investments. Process of elimination leads Tito to re-sign if he ever wants to fight AND get exposure at the same time. And you can bet your ass that contract will require him to keep his mouth shut

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]]> By: OCD http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45017 OCD Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:16:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45017 Tito's value as a fighter is not as great as Tito's value as a promoter/commentator/stable manager/tv show host. Tito can sell MMA, even if he is not in the ring. Dana failed to realize this. Take Anderson Silva. A great fighter. Not marketable in the largest market due to his language issues. Being a great fighter is not enough if you want to extend your career. Tito’s value as a fighter is not as great as Tito’s value as a promoter/commentator/stable manager/tv show host. Tito can sell MMA, even if he is not in the ring. Dana failed to realize this.

Take Anderson Silva. A great fighter. Not marketable in the largest market due to his language issues. Being a great fighter is not enough if you want to extend your career.

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]]> By: GoofyMonkey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45016 GoofyMonkey Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:07:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45016 When I was younger I had a boss who thought of herself as a den-mother of sorts to all the boys in the town I grew up. If any of the guys who worked for her did something wrong at work or pissed her off, rather than docking them hours she would make them work more. Then she could torture us while at work. I think Dana needs to adopt this. Sign Tito for as little as he will sign for then put him up against MUCH tougher guys and watch him get pounded on fight after fight.... Oh and pay his opponents a lot more money than Tito! When I was younger I had a boss who thought of herself as a den-mother of sorts to all the boys in the town I grew up. If any of the guys who worked for her did something wrong at work or pissed her off, rather than docking them hours she would make them work more. Then she could torture us while at work.

I think Dana needs to adopt this. Sign Tito for as little as he will sign for then put him up against MUCH tougher guys and watch him get pounded on fight after fight…. Oh and pay his opponents a lot more money than Tito!

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]]> By: GassedOut http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45014 GassedOut Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:58:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45014 LOL Franklin!!! LOL Franklin!!!

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]]> By: Franklin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45011 Franklin Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:41:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45011 I dunno, I could see Dana White wanting to resign Tito just to see him get an A-1 ass beating from Thiago Silva :-) I dunno, I could see Dana White wanting to resign Tito just to see him get an A-1 ass beating from Thiago Silva :-)

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]]> By: Bad Monkey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45009 Bad Monkey Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:37:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45009 I would be pretty shocked to see him resign with UFC. He and Dana seem to genuinely hate each other, plus Dana is right about Tito being way past his prime. He couldn't beat any top 10 LHW right now, so why offer him big $$$$ to come back to UFC, just to see Thiago Silva or someone like him give him an A-1 ass beating? As was mentioned, I think Tito just likes to get the rumor mill going to keep his name in the press. I would be pretty shocked to see him resign with UFC. He and Dana seem to genuinely hate each other, plus Dana is right about Tito being way past his prime. He couldn’t beat any top 10 LHW right now, so why offer him big $$$$ to come back to UFC, just to see Thiago Silva or someone like him give him an A-1 ass beating? As was mentioned, I think Tito just likes to get the rumor mill going to keep his name in the press.

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]]> By: Calgary MLS http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/18/tito-ortiz-back-on-the-open-market/comment-page-1/#comment-45008 Calgary MLS Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:34:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5493#comment-45008 I bet Tito will be back in the UFC. Dana & Tito's feud is real but at the same time it will probably help them sell tickets and move closer to a WWE promotion. They both care about $$$$ and it is probably the best play for both parties. Sad thing is we will hear more about Dana bitching about Tito and Tito calling Dana is little bitch....Good Times. I bet Tito will be back in the UFC. Dana & Tito’s feud is real but at the same time it will probably help them sell tickets and move closer to a WWE promotion. They both care about $$$$ and it is probably the best play for both parties.

Sad thing is we will hear more about Dana bitching about Tito and Tito calling Dana is little bitch….Good Times.

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