Comments on: Will Thiago Alves make weight? http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:37:14 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45330 THORAZINE Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:43:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45330 Alves has time... he should be at 190 lbs before practice by early Sept, that would make for a better training camp and keep him in check for the coming weeks... if he misses weight again, he's an idiot. Alves has time… he should be at 190 lbs before practice by early Sept, that would make for a better training camp and keep him in check for the coming weeks… if he misses weight again, he’s an idiot.

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]]> By: Imbecile http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45243 Imbecile Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:04:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45243 @ traingleman I agree that at this stage, Alves may well be too much for Hughes. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't be held to the same rules. It is a matter of professionalism, and from what I have seen from Alves, he doesn't have much of that. I think Alves should be skating on thin ice with athletic commissions, following the diuretics dabacle and then missing weight by so much. He also got permission from the UFC to use a steroid, cortizone, for his ankle before the fight. Since it was in England, the UFC did their own testing. Now, I'm not making accusations here, but in one instance, Alves is caught using a diurectic. Diuretics can sometimes be used to cut weight, but they are more commonly used to mask steroids in your system. That is why they are banned. Then, he gets permission from the UFC to use a non-anabolic steroid in a match in England, outside of athletic commission control, which I am told also has a tendency to mask readings on tests for anabolic steroids. Add to that, Thiago has been looking massively strong these days. None of that proves anything, but it has to raise suspiscions amongst athletic commissions. I truly hope all of this is just a coincidence, and that Thiago is able to make weight and test clean for the rest of his career. All I know is that given his history, at this moment, we should look at him with a very close eye. @ traingleman

I agree that at this stage, Alves may well be too much for Hughes. But that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be held to the same rules. It is a matter of professionalism, and from what I have seen from Alves, he doesn’t have much of that.

I think Alves should be skating on thin ice with athletic commissions, following the diuretics dabacle and then missing weight by so much. He also got permission from the UFC to use a steroid, cortizone, for his ankle before the fight. Since it was in England, the UFC did their own testing. Now, I’m not making accusations here, but in one instance, Alves is caught using a diurectic. Diuretics can sometimes be used to cut weight, but they are more commonly used to mask steroids in your system. That is why they are banned. Then, he gets permission from the UFC to use a non-anabolic steroid in a match in England, outside of athletic commission control, which I am told also has a tendency to mask readings on tests for anabolic steroids. Add to that, Thiago has been looking massively strong these days.

None of that proves anything, but it has to raise suspiscions amongst athletic commissions. I truly hope all of this is just a coincidence, and that Thiago is able to make weight and test clean for the rest of his career. All I know is that given his history, at this moment, we should look at him with a very close eye.

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]]> By: steak_knife http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45196 steak_knife Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:35:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45196 The only fighter who should be allowed to miss weight is Gina Carano. The only fighter who should be allowed to miss weight is Gina Carano.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45182 darkmetal Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:27:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45182 Dana White's "Smirk" is probably a bit of irritation over the whole making weight issue...as he said before, he hates guys not making weight. Alves better not come in heavy or he will raise Dana's ire. And if he does, he will surely not fair well in the future. 30 pounds over weight? That is a lot to sweat out, he should be no more than 15 lbs over in my opinion or he might not make it. There is only so much water a person can sweat out. Fat and muscle simply do not leave the body in 1 day, it takes a committed diet to keep weight in check. Dana White’s “Smirk” is probably a bit of irritation over the whole making weight issue…as he said before, he hates guys not making weight. Alves better not come in heavy or he will raise Dana’s ire. And if he does, he will surely not fair well in the future.

30 pounds over weight? That is a lot to sweat out, he should be no more than 15 lbs over in my opinion or he might not make it. There is only so much water a person can sweat out. Fat and muscle simply do not leave the body in 1 day, it takes a committed diet to keep weight in check.

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]]> By: traingleman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45172 traingleman Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:11:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45172 I agree 100 percent with the punishment! I think if he fails to make weight he should forfeit a percentage of his purse. If he will take. anything seriously it will be a hit to his wallett! BUT that being said at this point in both of their careers I feel Alves is just too much for Hughes. I also feel Alves needs to wake up because he is way to small to go up to middleweight!! I agree 100 percent with the punishment! I think if he fails to make weight he should forfeit a percentage of his purse. If he will take. anything seriously it will be a hit to his wallett! BUT that being said at this point in both of their careers I feel Alves is just too much for Hughes. I also feel Alves needs to wake up because he is way to small to go up to middleweight!!

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]]> By: Imbecile http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45154 Imbecile Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:04:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45154 I agreed with what Sam Caplan said after Alves failed to make weight against Hughes - that it shouldn't count towards his status in the Welterweight division. I think it is irresponsible not to make weight, even with the ankle injury (that seemed fine during the fight). Plus, if he knew ten days out, he should have had the courtesy and professionalism to contact Hughes' camp so that Hughes didn't have to go through the cut, too. Alves should have already been on-weight, or pretty close, since he just fought Karo right before accepting this fight. Hughes is the one who took it on short notice, and had the harder cut, since he was late getting his training camp started. Everyone loves to give Hughes a hard time, and a lot of the time he deserves it. But Alves could learn something from Hughes' professionalism as it relates to the fights themselves, since he has always made the agreed upon weight. In my opinion, Alves should have taken a bigger hit in the press for this, especially after the whole diurectics thing. If it happens again, he should be punished severely by the UFC. I agreed with what Sam Caplan said after Alves failed to make weight against Hughes – that it shouldn’t count towards his status in the Welterweight division.

I think it is irresponsible not to make weight, even with the ankle injury (that seemed fine during the fight). Plus, if he knew ten days out, he should have had the courtesy and professionalism to contact Hughes’ camp so that Hughes didn’t have to go through the cut, too. Alves should have already been on-weight, or pretty close, since he just fought Karo right before accepting this fight. Hughes is the one who took it on short notice, and had the harder cut, since he was late getting his training camp started.

Everyone loves to give Hughes a hard time, and a lot of the time he deserves it. But Alves could learn something from Hughes’ professionalism as it relates to the fights themselves, since he has always made the agreed upon weight.

In my opinion, Alves should have taken a bigger hit in the press for this, especially after the whole diurectics thing. If it happens again, he should be punished severely by the UFC.

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]]> By: Warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45143 Warcry Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:31:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45143 I agree. He better make weight because I have $20 and bragging rights riding on him. I hope Diego is arrogant enough to stand and trade with him. I agree. He better make weight because I have $20 and bragging rights riding on him. I hope Diego is arrogant enough to stand and trade with him.

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]]> By: traingleman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45137 traingleman Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:35:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45137 1st of all, he is a HUGE welterweight!!! If he can get on a consistent program he will be tough to handle!!! I am not saying GSP has to be worried but he is a well rounded athlete with big power and grappling background! If he makes weight he will crush Sanchez in the 1st rnd. And "about 200" means at least 205 if not more!! 1st of all, he is a HUGE welterweight!!! If he can get on a consistent program he will be tough to handle!!! I am not saying GSP has to be worried but he is a well rounded athlete with big power and grappling background! If he makes weight he will crush Sanchez in the 1st rnd. And “about 200″ means at least 205 if not more!!

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]]> By: steve24 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45129 steve24 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:45:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45129 "Yeah it might be easy to keep advancing in the division if you walk into the fights on the fatboy side." If he's fat then 90% of the world needs to get on his program. “Yeah it might be easy to keep advancing in the division if you walk into the fights on the fatboy side.”

If he’s fat then 90% of the world needs to get on his program.

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]]> By: Dawny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/19/will-thiago-alves-make-weight/comment-page-1/#comment-45127 Dawny Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:40:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5520#comment-45127 To piggyback off of your comment Echolocating - in the Hughes fight it didn't appear that Alves' ankle was injured at all - he seemed to have fought a good fight on a bad ankle. To piggyback off of your comment Echolocating – in the Hughes fight it didn’t appear that Alves’ ankle was injured at all – he seemed to have fought a good fight on a bad ankle.

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