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	<title>Comments on: UFC 91 in Nov. could feature Florian vs. Stevenson</title>
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		<title>By: aceyeager</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/20/ufc-91-in-nov-could-feature-florian-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-45759</link>
		<dc:creator>aceyeager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well first if you are gonna keep records keep them right he was 3-2 coming into fight against sherk in his last 5. and the 2 losses were out of the lightweight division to hughes and gsp. and penn will rule the 155 division. 

as for joe and ken. good fight ken standing joe takedowns and g and p.
neither can beat penn.

now as far as gsp and penn, wont happen till summer  09 in my opinion. gsp will fight winner of diego vs thiago. penn will fight winner of ken and joe if it happens. 

#1 contender definately ken flo. he has beat robinson, mishima, lauzon, thomas, and matador. give the man a title shot. hes earned it.

and im not tryin to dog you wat does he mean by loss 2-3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well first if you are gonna keep records keep them right he was 3-2 coming into fight against sherk in his last 5. and the 2 losses were out of the lightweight division to hughes and gsp. and penn will rule the 155 division. </p>
<p>as for joe and ken. good fight ken standing joe takedowns and g and p.<br />
neither can beat penn.</p>
<p>now as far as gsp and penn, wont happen till summer  09 in my opinion. gsp will fight winner of diego vs thiago. penn will fight winner of ken and joe if it happens. </p>
<p>#1 contender definately ken flo. he has beat robinson, mishima, lauzon, thomas, and matador. give the man a title shot. hes earned it.</p>
<p>and im not tryin to dog you wat does he mean by loss 2-3.
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh wait nvm i get what yer saying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh wait nvm i get what yer saying
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bj penn won 3 of his last 5 fights he lost to gsp and hughes and beat pulver stevensen and sherk get yer facts right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bj penn won 3 of his last 5 fights he lost to gsp and hughes and beat pulver stevensen and sherk get yer facts right
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		<title>By: KMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>KMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it going to take for Florian to get his title shot?  After going 5 rounds against Skerk and losing a decision, he&#039;s left out of the &quot;interm&quot; championship picture. The champ tests positive for roids and the guy who he could not finish doesn&#039;t get a crack at the title?  But they put in BJ Penn, who had lost 3 of his last 5 fights.  

No doubt that Penn, obviously, is great enough to be a champion, but what are we keeping records for if we ignore them?

Since the loss, Florian has cruised through everyone in his path and is, unquestionably, the number 1 contender.  Penn (and GSP) haven&#039;t defended their own titles enough to justify a weight move as it is.  Yes, this is a &quot;superfight&quot; and Yes it will sell large.

However to ignore rankings and simply go with the most popular fighter vs the other most popular fighter devalues the title and the concept of &quot;champion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it going to take for Florian to get his title shot?  After going 5 rounds against Skerk and losing a decision, he&#8217;s left out of the &#8220;interm&#8221; championship picture. The champ tests positive for roids and the guy who he could not finish doesn&#8217;t get a crack at the title?  But they put in BJ Penn, who had lost 3 of his last 5 fights.  </p>
<p>No doubt that Penn, obviously, is great enough to be a champion, but what are we keeping records for if we ignore them?</p>
<p>Since the loss, Florian has cruised through everyone in his path and is, unquestionably, the number 1 contender.  Penn (and GSP) haven&#8217;t defended their own titles enough to justify a weight move as it is.  Yes, this is a &#8220;superfight&#8221; and Yes it will sell large.</p>
<p>However to ignore rankings and simply go with the most popular fighter vs the other most popular fighter devalues the title and the concept of &#8220;champion.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Bad Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  BJ beat Joe badly, so why does Stevenson deserve another #1 contenders fight?  Let&#039;s say he wins, do you really think BJ isn&#039;t just going to give him another whuppin?

Unfair to Florian, but I guess since he said he wanted another fight soon he got it.  If Kenny keeps it standing he will destroy Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  BJ beat Joe badly, so why does Stevenson deserve another #1 contenders fight?  Let&#8217;s say he wins, do you really think BJ isn&#8217;t just going to give him another whuppin?</p>
<p>Unfair to Florian, but I guess since he said he wanted another fight soon he got it.  If Kenny keeps it standing he will destroy Joe.
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		<title>By: Foojita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foojita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This match makes no sense to me.

Kenny is next in line for a lightweight title shot. If he loses here that is out the window. You can&#039;t give the shot to Stevenson either because he just handily lost to BJ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This match makes no sense to me.</p>
<p>Kenny is next in line for a lightweight title shot. If he loses here that is out the window. You can&#8217;t give the shot to Stevenson either because he just handily lost to BJ.
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		<title>By: ACK!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACK!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florian can defend the guillotine, so he should be alright... The way I see Joe Daddy winning this fight is to utilize his strength advantage for some ground and pound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florian can defend the guillotine, so he should be alright&#8230; The way I see Joe Daddy winning this fight is to utilize his strength advantage for some ground and pound.
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		<title>By: warcry</title>
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		<dc:creator>warcry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Kenny has hit another level and he is just above Stevenson at this point.  This will be an interesting matchup, but I give the hair length thin edge to Ben Stiller I mean Kenny by decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kenny has hit another level and he is just above Stevenson at this point.  This will be an interesting matchup, but I give the hair length thin edge to Ben Stiller I mean Kenny by decision.
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		<title>By: Voridor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voridor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad matchup for KenFlo, its too bad he didn&#039;t get a title shot (Penn vs GSP). I can see Joe as a younger Sean Sherk. Sure Kenny is a better fighter since the Sherk dominated fight, but Stevenson is a perfect fit for this matchup. A loss for KenFlo and a win for Sherk/Stevenson could put a potential matchup for Sherk/Florian 2 which will happen sooner or later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad matchup for KenFlo, its too bad he didn&#8217;t get a title shot (Penn vs GSP). I can see Joe as a younger Sean Sherk. Sure Kenny is a better fighter since the Sherk dominated fight, but Stevenson is a perfect fit for this matchup. A loss for KenFlo and a win for Sherk/Stevenson could put a potential matchup for Sherk/Florian 2 which will happen sooner or later.
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		<title>By: Toad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dangerous fight for florian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dangerous fight for florian.
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