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	<title>Comments on: EliteXC&#8217;s Shaw won&#8217;t rule out stripping Noons of title</title>
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		<title>By: Batman</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/elitexcs-shaw-wont-rule-out-stripping-noons-of-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45622</link>
		<dc:creator>Batman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say take his belt to teach him a lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say take his belt to teach him a lesson.
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		<title>By: dsid</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noons and his management are idiots. Think about it this way. If Noons fights Alvarez and loses, do you think he&#039;ll get another shot at the title? Hell no. Not at this point. But if he loses to Diaz they&#039;re right in position to demand the rubber match. And if he beats Diaz he&#039;s free and clear of the guy forever.

The other thing they seem to miss the boat on is the best fight for Noons is the one that will generate the most attention / hype / viewers. And that fight is Diaz. If they had half a brain between them they&#039;d take the fight, hype it up like crazy, generate a big audience on CBS and hope for the fight of the year, at which point Noons would prove to have drawing power, which he could then later take to another organization.

But right now he&#039;s the champion of an nothing division in a nothing organization and no one else will really want him. And with the way they&#039;re going he&#039;s either going to ride the pine (yea, that&#039;s great for the career), or get stripped of the title all together (even worse) and end up fighting nothing boxing matches instead.

And that doesn&#039;t even mention the fact that it&#039;s EliteXC&#039;s promotion and their right to determine who the #1 contender is, who would make the most exciting fight, etc. Every person in the UFC (a real promotion) other than Couture has fought whoever the UFC puts in front of them. And yet this second tier fighter wants to hold out for a handpicked opponent? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noons and his management are idiots. Think about it this way. If Noons fights Alvarez and loses, do you think he&#8217;ll get another shot at the title? Hell no. Not at this point. But if he loses to Diaz they&#8217;re right in position to demand the rubber match. And if he beats Diaz he&#8217;s free and clear of the guy forever.</p>
<p>The other thing they seem to miss the boat on is the best fight for Noons is the one that will generate the most attention / hype / viewers. And that fight is Diaz. If they had half a brain between them they&#8217;d take the fight, hype it up like crazy, generate a big audience on CBS and hope for the fight of the year, at which point Noons would prove to have drawing power, which he could then later take to another organization.</p>
<p>But right now he&#8217;s the champion of an nothing division in a nothing organization and no one else will really want him. And with the way they&#8217;re going he&#8217;s either going to ride the pine (yea, that&#8217;s great for the career), or get stripped of the title all together (even worse) and end up fighting nothing boxing matches instead.</p>
<p>And that doesn&#8217;t even mention the fact that it&#8217;s EliteXC&#8217;s promotion and their right to determine who the #1 contender is, who would make the most exciting fight, etc. Every person in the UFC (a real promotion) other than Couture has fought whoever the UFC puts in front of them. And yet this second tier fighter wants to hold out for a handpicked opponent? LOL
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s DIAZ&#039;s side to all of this mess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s DIAZ&#8217;s side to all of this mess?
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regardless of whether anyone of us thinks diaz is a deserving challenger (i think he is) the main thing is that XC believes he is.....as a few others have said, since it&#039;s their belt then they get to call the shots and noons should do as he&#039;s told.

if noons wins then the alvarez fight can happen next and maybe on cbs again but if he loses then XC has alvarez/diaz....and noons can go wherever he wants, boxing or otherwise.

i agree about this opening a pandora&#039;s box if XC doesn&#039;t walk the walk here and strip noons for not defending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regardless of whether anyone of us thinks diaz is a deserving challenger (i think he is) the main thing is that XC believes he is&#8230;..as a few others have said, since it&#8217;s their belt then they get to call the shots and noons should do as he&#8217;s told.</p>
<p>if noons wins then the alvarez fight can happen next and maybe on cbs again but if he loses then XC has alvarez/diaz&#8230;.and noons can go wherever he wants, boxing or otherwise.</p>
<p>i agree about this opening a pandora&#8217;s box if XC doesn&#8217;t walk the walk here and strip noons for not defending.
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		<title>By: Jay K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Too funny that Mike Wolfe would refer to Jared Shaw as artful!  Honorable Mention, Mike!  

Seriously now, its a sign that things aren&#039;t going well for the franchise&#039;s health when they have to promote grudge matches to bump their viewership.  I can&#039;t support Noons when thing aren&#039;t looking good like this.  Its apparent that they need each other and both sides need to pitch in here and add to the franchise&#039;s momentum.

Jay K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Too funny that Mike Wolfe would refer to Jared Shaw as artful!  Honorable Mention, Mike!  </p>
<p>Seriously now, its a sign that things aren&#8217;t going well for the franchise&#8217;s health when they have to promote grudge matches to bump their viewership.  I can&#8217;t support Noons when thing aren&#8217;t looking good like this.  Its apparent that they need each other and both sides need to pitch in here and add to the franchise&#8217;s momentum.</p>
<p>Jay K.
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		<title>By: Jackyl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter if Diaz deserves the shot or not. Part of the reason they want Diaz on that card is name recognition for the CBS broadcast. Plus it would be a pretty good fight. As the champ you defend against all comers. I just can&#039;t get behind Noons on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter if Diaz deserves the shot or not. Part of the reason they want Diaz on that card is name recognition for the CBS broadcast. Plus it would be a pretty good fight. As the champ you defend against all comers. I just can&#8217;t get behind Noons on this.
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		<title>By: fightfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>fightfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the thing there are only 4 or 5 160 lbers under contract to ELite
XC, IF THAT......I would love to see their roster of potenial 160 fights.

Plain and simple the Shaws were going to give Kimbo whatever he wants and do whatever it takes to keep Diaz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the thing there are only 4 or 5 160 lbers under contract to ELite<br />
XC, IF THAT&#8230;&#8230;I would love to see their roster of potenial 160 fights.</p>
<p>Plain and simple the Shaws were going to give Kimbo whatever he wants and do whatever it takes to keep Diaz
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		<title>By: Rich S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahhhh there&#039;s hope!!!


sorry Noons!!!!!


Noons&#039; last two wins were MIRACLES and wouldn&#039;t happen twice in ANYONE&#039;S lifetime..

i can&#039;t wait for the day EVERYONE gets to see that..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhhh there&#8217;s hope!!!</p>
<p>sorry Noons!!!!!</p>
<p>Noons&#8217; last two wins were MIRACLES and wouldn&#8217;t happen twice in ANYONE&#8217;S lifetime..</p>
<p>i can&#8217;t wait for the day EVERYONE gets to see that..
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if you think that anyone currently signed to EXC deserves a shot more than Diaz I&#039;d love to hear who.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if you think that anyone currently signed to EXC deserves a shot more than Diaz I&#8217;d love to hear who.
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, 2 months and a week. typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, 2 months and a week. typo.
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