Comments on: If Noons doesn’t accept fight vs. Diaz, he should be stripped of lightweight title http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:48:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45738 screwface Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:27:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45738 Sam im sorry diaz was not dominated, maybe to some1 who isnt familiar with diaz past fights would think so, but any1 who has seen a number of his fights knows that diaz is a bleeder and a slow starter. his style his is to wear his opponent down and pepper him with medium blows b4 he turns it on towards the late rounds. diaz never looks good in the beginning, i think he needs to get pissed off b4 he hulks out , just his style. im not trying to take anything away from noons, hes a decent fighter, but that fight should never have been stopped. i understand why you think the way you do, judged on the stoppage diaz appears to have been outclassed to the avg fan. but any1 whos been paying attention to diaz over the years knows better is all ;) Sam im sorry diaz was not dominated, maybe to some1 who isnt familiar with diaz past fights would think so, but any1 who has seen a number of his fights knows that diaz is a bleeder and a slow starter. his style his is to wear his opponent down and pepper him with medium blows b4 he turns it on towards the late rounds. diaz never looks good in the beginning, i think he needs to get pissed off b4 he hulks out , just his style. im not trying to take anything away from noons, hes a decent fighter, but that fight should never have been stopped. i understand why you think the way you do, judged on the stoppage diaz appears to have been outclassed to the avg fan. but any1 whos been paying attention to diaz over the years knows better is all ;)

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]]> By: ihateemo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45559 ihateemo Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:30:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45559 HexRei, "Diaz (both of them actually) have pulled wins out of fights where they appeared to be getting outclassed many times." I agree, though it may not have seemed that way from my comment. Another reason why nobody likes DKOs. :) HexRei,

“Diaz (both of them actually) have pulled wins out of fights where they appeared to be getting outclassed many times.”

I agree, though it may not have seemed that way from my comment. Another reason why nobody likes DKOs. :)

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]]> By: Kells http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45509 Kells Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:18:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45509 i think if Noons jumps ship with dion people will be wary of working with him because of the type of problems dion creates. i wonder if Noons ever thought about that. And a champion should take on all comers, thats what a champion does, he proves he is the best time and again, against anyone. Anderson Silva is begging dana for fights, he will fight even non - title fights out of his weight class. He is a true champion, noons is merely a talented fighter in a good position wasting his talent, just like so many athletes before him. i think if Noons jumps ship with dion people will be wary of working with him because of the type of problems dion creates.

i wonder if Noons ever thought about that.

And a champion should take on all comers, thats what a champion does, he proves he is the best time and again, against anyone.

Anderson Silva is begging dana for fights, he will fight even non – title fights out of his weight class. He is a true champion, noons is merely a talented fighter in a good position wasting his talent, just like so many athletes before him.

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]]> By: egad81 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45495 egad81 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:27:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45495 NOONS is scared. Maybe he should fight in the womens divisioin. I have never liked him and never will. He is going into boxing.... didnt he get KOed by CraZyHorSe? NOONS is scared. Maybe he should fight in the womens divisioin.
I have never liked him and never will.

He is going into boxing…. didnt he get KOed by CraZyHorSe?

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45461 HexRei Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:49:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45461 ihateemo Diaz (both of them actually) have pulled wins out of fights where they appeared to be getting outclassed many times. Gomi beat the hell out of Nick before Nick slapped on that gogo. I think a lot of fans want to see a rematch because we believe Nick could have won a fight that went the distance, and I for one think doctor stoppage is the least decisive way to win a fight. I want to see what would really have happened. And Nick's plastic surgery is very promising in terms of how he might fare in the rematch. ihateemo

Diaz (both of them actually) have pulled wins out of fights where they appeared to be getting outclassed many times. Gomi beat the hell out of Nick before Nick slapped on that gogo. I think a lot of fans want to see a rematch because we believe Nick could have won a fight that went the distance, and I for one think doctor stoppage is the least decisive way to win a fight. I want to see what would really have happened. And Nick’s plastic surgery is very promising in terms of how he might fare in the rematch.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45455 Sam Caplan Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:34:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45455 Dave, were you on LSD when you watched the fight? Dave, were you on LSD when you watched the fight?

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]]> By: dave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45452 dave Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:17:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45452 The writer of thie article should just kill him self i too watched the 1st fight 20+ times... Noons got lucky and won via a cut and now he is scaried to death to fight nick now since he has surgey so there is no chance of a cut acuring again. Noons did not cut Diaz, he reopened prior scar tissue, the doctor at ringside was a idoit as is anyone who thinks Noons was domanting Nick Diaz. Simple fact of the matter is Noons is not and will never be in Diaz's league anyone who believe other wise should have thier eyes checked and possiable mental exam. The writer of thie article should just kill him self i too watched the 1st fight 20+ times… Noons got lucky and won via a cut and now he is scaried to death to fight nick now since he has surgey so there is no chance of a cut acuring again.

Noons did not cut Diaz, he reopened prior scar tissue, the doctor at ringside was a idoit as is anyone who thinks Noons was domanting Nick Diaz.

Simple fact of the matter is Noons is not and will never be in Diaz’s league anyone who believe other wise should have thier eyes checked and possiable mental exam.

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]]> By: tallsforeverybody http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45451 tallsforeverybody Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:58:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45451 who cares, in 6 months all this shit with EXC will be moot anyway. who cares, in 6 months all this shit with EXC will be moot anyway.

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]]> By: ihateemo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45449 ihateemo Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:03:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45449 flyingogoplata, Fair point and I can see where you're coming from and I would agree with everything YOU just said if this wasn't a title fight we're talking about. :) I think that when you become champion of a particular promotion that your *first* duty is to either a) agree to defend the title against whomever the promotion deems the top contender or b) relinquish the title if you are unable or unwilling to defend. The bottom line for me is this: Noons outclassed Diaz the first time, but the fans (well, this fan anyway!) want to see a rematch because nobody likes doctor stoppage TKOs, just like they don't like fights going to decision. They're anticlimatic. Noons has every right to decline this fight for whatever reason, legitimate or borne out of his or Dion's ass. If he does decline the fight, he should not keep the strap. Case closed. Also, from EliteXC's position (devil's advocate), it's not in their interests to allow Noons to hand pick his opponents especially if his windbag manager is making noises about Noons attempting to jump ship to another promotion. flyingogoplata,

Fair point and I can see where you’re coming from and I would agree with everything YOU just said if this wasn’t a title fight we’re talking about. :)

I think that when you become champion of a particular promotion that your *first* duty is to either a) agree to defend the title against whomever the promotion deems the top contender or b) relinquish the title if you are unable or unwilling to defend.

The bottom line for me is this: Noons outclassed Diaz the first time, but the fans (well, this fan anyway!) want to see a rematch because nobody likes doctor stoppage TKOs, just like they don’t like fights going to decision. They’re anticlimatic. Noons has every right to decline this fight for whatever reason, legitimate or borne out of his or Dion’s ass. If he does decline the fight, he should not keep the strap. Case closed.

Also, from EliteXC’s position (devil’s advocate), it’s not in their interests to allow Noons to hand pick his opponents especially if his windbag manager is making noises about Noons attempting to jump ship to another promotion.

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]]> By: Davey D http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/if-noons-doesnt-accept-fight-vs-diaz-he-should-be-stripped-of-lightweight-title/comment-page-1/#comment-45436 Davey D Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:15:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5617#comment-45436 Good write up Sam. You've taken the time to see all the angles without actually speaking to KJ. This peice is very well written. I would also like to see KJ fighting Nick or Eddie on 10/4/08. Since Eddie is getting married soon, that kind of nixes a bout between them for now. Thus, making Diaz next in line. KJ has some really, really good hand speed and power. He won the first fight against Diaz hands down. I wasn't expecting him to win either but he put on quite a show that night. Come October, it will have been almost a year since they've fought. It would be a good time to see them against each other again. Maybe all KJ and his team really want is a bigger "to-show" purse to make it worth their while in case he were to lose? I don't know? I really hope this matter between Noons, his management and EXC can be resloved swiftly. Good write up Sam. You’ve taken the time to see all the angles without actually speaking to KJ. This peice is very well written. I would also like to see KJ fighting Nick or Eddie on 10/4/08. Since Eddie is getting married soon, that kind of nixes a bout between them for now. Thus, making Diaz next in line.

KJ has some really, really good hand speed and power. He won the first fight against Diaz hands down. I wasn’t expecting him to win either but he put on quite a show that night. Come October, it will have been almost a year since they’ve fought. It would be a good time to see them against each other again. Maybe all KJ and his team really want is a bigger “to-show” purse to make it worth their while in case he were to lose? I don’t know? I really hope this matter between Noons, his management and EXC can be resloved swiftly.

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