Comments on: Silva and his manager respond to positive test claim http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:05:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jay952 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45551 Jay952 Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:41:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45551 It always amazes me how someone gets caught red handed "beyond resonable doubt" and denies it publicly. You dont think that the comission took every possible route to prove the accusations true prior to making this public and assigning the suspension? Are you kidding? Silva is guilty, his credibility is going to be forever tarnished, and he deserves every bit of the one year suspension and humiliation. On the flipside, Shrek was guilty but never admitted it, and he ended up getting a shot at the belt in his comeback fight. Do you think that this fuels as motivation for Silva to deny the claims? It always amazes me how someone gets caught red handed “beyond resonable doubt” and denies it publicly. You dont think that the comission took every possible route to prove the accusations true prior to making this public and assigning the suspension? Are you kidding? Silva is guilty, his credibility is going to be forever tarnished, and he deserves every bit of the one year suspension and humiliation. On the flipside, Shrek was guilty but never admitted it, and he ended up getting a shot at the belt in his comeback fight. Do you think that this fuels as motivation for Silva to deny the claims?

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]]> By: Jason G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45539 Jason G Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:33:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45539 I dunno how thorough the testing is on these supplements but I think you'd at least have a better argument if you were only taking these supplements. The brand is EAS and the link is below: http://www.easme.com/protips/label_program.asp I dunno how thorough the testing is on these supplements but I think you’d at least have a better argument if you were only taking these supplements. The brand is EAS and the link is below:

http://www.easme.com/protips/label_program.asp

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]]> By: Jason G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45538 Jason G Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:30:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45538 I want to believe the guy but it's hard to when you look at the facts. The only way I believe the guy could possibly be innocent is if he were unknowingly taking a tainted supplement. That's still no excuse. I know the NFL has an approved brand of supplements that an athlete can take that are guaranteed to be legal. Deep down I know the man just messed up his cycle and got caught... I want to believe the guy but it’s hard to when you look at the facts. The only way I believe the guy could possibly be innocent is if he were unknowingly taking a tainted supplement. That’s still no excuse. I know the NFL has an approved brand of supplements that an athlete can take that are guaranteed to be legal. Deep down I know the man just messed up his cycle and got caught…

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]]> By: GoofyMonkey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45528 GoofyMonkey Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:34:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45528 Why does anyone fight in California anymore? It seems that a lot more fighters get "Caught" using steroids in Cali than in Vegas. Perhaps there's something wrong with the system in either or both places... Why does anyone fight in California anymore? It seems that a lot more fighters get “Caught” using steroids in Cali than in Vegas. Perhaps there’s something wrong with the system in either or both places…

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45523 Jackyl Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:16:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45523 How exactly do these fighters appeal? What is the possible defense? Is there any chance of these labs producing "false" positives? Has there been any research on whether or not certain combinations of supplements can produce positive results? If anyone has any input on these questions, I'd like to hear it. I've been tossing around these sort of questions since the Sean Sherk controversey. Now that another high profile fighter has tested positive it is bringing them back to light. How exactly do these fighters appeal? What is the possible defense? Is there any chance of these labs producing “false” positives? Has there been any research on whether or not certain combinations of supplements can produce positive results? If anyone has any input on these questions, I’d like to hear it. I’ve been tossing around these sort of questions since the Sean Sherk controversey. Now that another high profile fighter has tested positive it is bringing them back to light.

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]]> By: Calgary MLS http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45486 Calgary MLS Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:55:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45486 Quick, someone get him Sherks cell # Quick, someone get him Sherks cell #

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]]> By: Rise of The Machines http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45445 Rise of The Machines Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:55:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45445 @Fedor Emelianenko banned MMA instructional You could at least act like a rational man and actually say something useful. @Fedor Emelianenko banned MMA instructional

You could at least act like a rational man and actually say something useful.

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]]> By: John http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45438 John Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:22:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45438 Maybe denying the use of steroids is the best course of action when you're caught. Either you admit it or deny it. Your reputation is shattered either way, but perhaps there is less damage if you deny it. Though most people will still think he did steroids, there is still some level of doubt left in the minds of some overly supportive fans. If you admit it, there is no doubt. Some might argue that you get points for honesty, but i think the fighter won't care after being suspended, fined and their reputation permanently damaged. Maybe denying the use of steroids is the best course of action when you’re caught. Either you admit it or deny it. Your reputation is shattered either way, but perhaps there is less damage if you deny it. Though most people will still think he did steroids, there is still some level of doubt left in the minds of some overly supportive fans. If you admit it, there is no doubt.

Some might argue that you get points for honesty, but i think the fighter won’t care after being suspended, fined and their reputation permanently damaged.

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]]> By: jj420 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45437 jj420 Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:17:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45437 We need something like monthly tests for these guys or multiple samples going to different certified labs to help clear up whether this new trend of steroid use is actually happening or not. I guess it would be inconvenient for fight organizations once fighters test postive BEFORE the fight and screw up their fight cards, but at least it would leave the taint on the athlete and not the organization. Honestly, if they're testing people once, what's it matter if it happens two or three times? Oh my holy urine! We need something like monthly tests for these guys or multiple samples going to different certified labs to help clear up whether this new trend of steroid use is actually happening or not.

I guess it would be inconvenient for fight organizations once fighters test postive BEFORE the fight and screw up their fight cards, but at least it would leave the taint on the athlete and not the organization.

Honestly, if they’re testing people once, what’s it matter if it happens two or three times?

Oh my holy urine!

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]]> By: jdavis http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/21/silva-and-his-manager-respond-to-positive-test-claim/comment-page-1/#comment-45435 jdavis Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:09:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5625#comment-45435 The classic "I didn't take those horse steroids" defense. It's going to be pretty hard for them to prove that two different samples tested at two different labs for a substance that doesn't occur naturally in the human body were both some kind of mistake. The classic “I didn’t take those horse steroids” defense. It’s going to be pretty hard for them to prove that two different samples tested at two different labs for a substance that doesn’t occur naturally in the human body were both some kind of mistake.

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