Comments on: Paying for Tito Ortiz is like “buying a pair of expensive jeans and paying for a label.” http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:47:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: MMA SKOOL™ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45887 MMA SKOOL™ Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:32:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45887 Tito is the same fighter he always has been. No better no worse. His style has just become obsolete. He may be a dinosaur, but Forest and Rashad couldn't beat him. He's good at making a champ look even better. Chuck Liddell is one of the all-time greats, but would he be as popular if he never got to use Tito's big head as a punching bag? Tito is the same fighter he always has been. No better no worse. His style has just become obsolete.

He may be a dinosaur, but Forest and Rashad couldn’t beat him.

He’s good at making a champ look even better. Chuck Liddell is one of the all-time greats, but would he be as popular if he never got to use Tito’s big head as a punching bag?

]]> By: AdamsFamily http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45828 AdamsFamily Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:41:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45828 I think tito should go WWE. Earn himself a ton of money and continue the osmosis of fans to MMA. I think tito should go WWE. Earn himself a ton of money and continue the osmosis of fans to MMA.

]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45775 darkmetal Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:50:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45775 I have an idea that might actually save Tito, although personally I could care less about his future: "Camp Ortiz" A TV show where Ortiz travels the world to accumulate the best of training from the world's best fighting camps. Tito would go to Israel and spend a week taking on the best Krav Maga practicioners, then on to Brazil for BJJ, Japan for Karate, ect. At the end of the show, Tito then goes on to fight any of the major organization's best in his weight class (1 fight) to see if he has "evolved". Of course the UFC would not go for this unless Tito were to re-sign, but it would be an interesting show, you must agree.... I have an idea that might actually save Tito, although personally I could care less about his future:

“Camp Ortiz” A TV show where Ortiz travels the world to accumulate the best of training from the world’s best fighting camps. Tito would go to Israel and spend a week taking on the best Krav Maga practicioners, then on to Brazil for BJJ, Japan for Karate, ect. At the end of the show, Tito then goes on to fight any of the major organization’s best in his weight class (1 fight) to see if he has “evolved”. Of course the UFC would not go for this unless Tito were to re-sign, but it would be an interesting show, you must agree….

]]> By: ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45773 ryan Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:41:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45773 LOL you are so right about the ufc i have been saying shit like that on this site for a while and ppl get mad and i don't know why? maybe because they only watch the ufc and you can sit her and tell me about the ufc great production ect ect well the bottom line is its about the fights and the ufc isn't using their fighters to put on the best fights possible. they don't care about the fans and what they want. i understand smart business decisions but they go way beyond that. Dana white makes a comment after FERDOR beats tim saying that tim has been a bore for years, well during that time the ufc was giving us sylvia v. arlovski 1-3 and putting tim as co headliner!!! what does that tell you??? but the bottom line is they feed us garbage a lot of the time and like LOL said give use these boob as tuf fighters that ppl think are on the rise because they were on the ufc tv show. LOL
you are so right about the ufc
i have been saying shit like that on this site for a while and ppl get mad and i don’t know why?
maybe because they only watch the ufc and you can sit her and tell me about the ufc great production ect ect
well the bottom line is its about the fights and the ufc isn’t using their fighters to put on the best fights possible. they don’t care about the fans and what they want. i understand smart business decisions but they go way beyond that.
Dana white makes a comment after FERDOR beats tim saying that tim has been a bore for years, well during that time the ufc was giving us sylvia v. arlovski 1-3 and putting tim as co headliner!!!
what does that tell you???
but the bottom line is they feed us garbage a lot of the time and like LOL said give use these boob as tuf fighters that ppl think are on the rise because they were on the ufc tv show.

]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45754 king mah mah Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:33:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45754 Tito is not washed up by any means. I will buy whatever ppv he is on just to see what happens. Quit hating. Tito is not washed up by any means. I will buy whatever ppv he is on just to see what happens. Quit hating.

]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45736 stevefiji Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:52:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45736 Tito has options... do a deal with Affliction and let them both claim there were "other" considerations and people can speculate all they want about how much extra money Tito got (in actuality, the word NOTHING would come to mind). Or Tito can go to Elite and help them huge with TV ratings and cut some sort of crazy deal and end up fighting Kimbo after they feed Kimbo 2 more donuts. In this case, he has HuGe value and that's a legit PPV event!!! Finally Tito can go back to the UFC, in which case, he becomes Dana's personal Vodoo doll and Dana has him go against guys who will shred him like Machida and embarrass and punk his ass for 3+ more fights... I think we can rule out option #3. It appears Tito might have just signed with Affliction, too bad for Elite. Elite should have made this happen...it made too much sense Tito has options… do a deal with Affliction and let them both claim there were “other” considerations and people can speculate all they want about how much extra money Tito got (in actuality, the word NOTHING would come to mind).

Or Tito can go to Elite and help them huge with TV ratings and cut some sort of crazy deal and end up fighting Kimbo after they feed Kimbo 2 more donuts. In this case, he has HuGe value and that’s a legit PPV event!!!

Finally Tito can go back to the UFC, in which case, he becomes Dana’s personal Vodoo doll and Dana has him go against guys who will shred him like Machida and embarrass and punk his ass for 3+ more fights… I think we can rule out option #3.

It appears Tito might have just signed with Affliction, too bad for Elite. Elite should have made this happen…it made too much sense

]]> By: LOL http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45735 LOL Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:36:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45735 Expensive jeans? Just a label? Nice, the same can be said for about 50% of the UFC's PPVs in the last two years. All name, no substance. How many second rate TUFers will make up future cards? What a joke, and I suspect that was Dana who said that. Expensive jeans? Just a label?

Nice, the same can be said for about 50% of the UFC’s PPVs in the last two years. All name, no substance. How many second rate TUFers will make up future cards? What a joke, and I suspect that was Dana who said that.

]]> By: Joel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45726 Joel Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:22:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45726 I am a tito fan because he is so charismatic. Remember Tito fought at UFC 30 under the new regime after SEG sold it to Zuffa. I believe that many of the comments are correct, he represents the "old school" MMA. He has to evolve. But his star power is undeniable. Highest paid, no, but a draw, yes. I am a tito fan because he is so charismatic.

Remember Tito fought at UFC 30 under the new regime after SEG sold it to Zuffa. I believe that many of the comments are correct, he represents the “old school” MMA. He has to evolve. But his star power is undeniable.

Highest paid, no, but a draw, yes.

]]> By: whimwham http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45704 whimwham Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:23:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45704 well if its ok to post stuff from other sites i read this on mmalinker.com Former UFC star Ortiz signs with rival Affliction August 23, 2008, 12:02 pm It seems that former UFC light heavyweight champion, “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Tito Ortiz, has finally signed with rival promotion Affliction in time for their next PPV event on October 11th. well if its ok to post stuff from other sites i read this on mmalinker.com

Former UFC star Ortiz signs with rival Affliction
August 23, 2008, 12:02 pm

It seems that former UFC light heavyweight champion, “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Tito Ortiz, has finally signed with rival promotion Affliction in time for their next PPV event on October 11th.

]]> By: jack http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45703 jack Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:19:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45703 The old Ken shamrock would of handed tito his ass. Ken has no chin left. You tap him and he goes down. A 30 year old ken vs tito would of just been a beating for ortiz The old Ken shamrock would of handed tito his ass. Ken has no chin left. You tap him and he goes down. A 30 year old ken vs tito would of just been a beating for ortiz

]]> By: ryan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45702 ryan Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:04:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45702 name one top 15 LHW (i like to use HDNET FIGHTS rankings, my style) you think he could beat? they have him 15 and i think i would bet against him verse any of the fighters before him. and i'm one of those guys that basis my pick in a fight on what i have taken from previous fights thats it i could careless what a guy say or thinks or dresses, ect name one top 15 LHW (i like to use HDNET FIGHTS rankings, my style) you think he could beat?
they have him 15 and i think i would bet against him verse any of the fighters before him.
and i’m one of those guys that basis my pick in a fight on what i have taken from previous fights thats it i could careless what a guy say or thinks or dresses, ect

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45701 Evan Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:10:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45701 "Tito is still a upper level fighter at 205, no matter what his record indicates," based on what then? “Tito is still a upper level fighter at 205, no matter what his record indicates,”

based on what then?

]]> By: tallsforeverybody http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45698 tallsforeverybody Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:30:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45698 Tito won't evolve, that's the problem. He's had ample opportunity, but is either unwilling or unable. Tito won’t evolve, that’s the problem. He’s had ample opportunity, but is either unwilling or unable.

]]> By: ragefightingwear http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45693 ragefightingwear Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:24:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45693 Tito is Tito. You can brag how much you paid to a expensive pair of jeans to give yourself or your organization some credibility. Tito is still a upper level fighter at 205, no matter what his record indicates, He just need to evolve before his run is over. Tito is Tito. You can brag how much you paid to a expensive pair of jeans to give yourself or your organization some credibility. Tito is still a upper level fighter at 205, no matter what his record indicates, He just need to evolve before his run is over.

]]> By: traingleman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45692 traingleman Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:11:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45692 "Yeah I lost to a guy who would kick me and run away! What am I supposed to do, chase him around?" That was an interview he had in Boston w a radio station. It is called evolving u pompous ass!!! He sprawled when u shot, u couldn't take him down! U have 0 standup! So u got ur ass kicked, quite literally! I hate Machida as well, but it is call "Mixed Martial Arts" for a reason. If he goes anywhere but UFC he will fight second class talent and still get his ass handed to him, at least in the UFC he can say he is fighting the best fighters on the planet! So pick ur poison, get paid a ton and get embarassed or get paid a lot and get ur ass whipped. “Yeah I lost to a guy who would kick me and run away! What am I supposed to do, chase him around?” That was an interview he had in Boston w a radio station. It is called evolving u pompous ass!!! He sprawled when u shot, u couldn’t take him down! U have 0 standup! So u got ur ass kicked, quite literally! I hate Machida as well, but it is call “Mixed Martial Arts” for a reason. If he goes anywhere but UFC he will fight second class talent and still get his ass handed to him, at least in the UFC he can say he is fighting the best fighters on the planet! So pick ur poison, get paid a ton and get embarassed or get paid a lot and get ur ass whipped.

]]> By: fightfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45687 fightfan Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:20:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45687 If Tito really wants to fight he will come crawling back to the UFC. Just liek Dana said before that Tito was broke adn etc, etc..... Since no one else has the money or will give him the money he wants, I wouldnt be surprised to see Tito BACK in the UFC. That is IF he REALLY wants to continue on fighting. He will make it sound like the Ferttitas saved teh day and gave such a great offer that no one could refuse. I hope the UFC can get Tito back. I just love watching him lose. And then make every excuse in the book why he lost and why he SHOULD NEVER lose. It would be awesome to see him back in the Octagon getting KTFO by all the up and comers that beat him into more and more excuses If Tito really wants to fight he will come crawling back to the UFC. Just liek Dana said before that Tito was broke adn etc, etc…..

Since no one else has the money or will give him the money he wants, I wouldnt be surprised to see Tito BACK in the UFC. That is IF he REALLY wants to continue on fighting.

He will make it sound like the Ferttitas saved teh day and gave such a great offer that no one could refuse.

I hope the UFC can get Tito back. I just love watching him lose. And then make every excuse in the book why he lost and why he SHOULD NEVER lose. It would be awesome to see him back in the Octagon getting KTFO by all the up and comers that beat him into more and more excuses

]]> By: MOD http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45682 MOD Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:47:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45682 HE IS WORTH A TON OF MONEY EVEN THOUGH HIS BEST DAYS ARE BEHIND HIM. PEOPLE WILL BUY HIS PPV JUST TO SEE HIM GET HIS ASS KICKED. PEOPLE WILL ALSO BUY HIS PPV IN HOPES OF SEEING THE OLD TITO. HE CAN DO NOTHING BUT HELP A PROMOTION. THE PROBLEM IS TIM "36 SECD" SILVIA GOT $800,00 TO GET HIS ASS WHIPPED. NOW EVERY FIGHTER WITH DRAWING POWER WILL SAY "IF HES GETTING $800K WHO HOW MUCH CAN I GET IF I TAKE MY SHOT. HE IS WORTH A TON OF MONEY EVEN THOUGH HIS BEST DAYS ARE BEHIND HIM. PEOPLE WILL BUY HIS PPV JUST TO SEE HIM GET HIS ASS KICKED. PEOPLE WILL ALSO BUY HIS PPV IN HOPES OF SEEING THE OLD TITO. HE CAN DO NOTHING BUT HELP A PROMOTION. THE PROBLEM IS TIM “36 SECD” SILVIA GOT $800,00 TO GET HIS ASS WHIPPED. NOW EVERY FIGHTER WITH DRAWING POWER WILL SAY “IF HES GETTING $800K WHO HOW MUCH CAN I GET IF I TAKE MY SHOT.

]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45678 Evan Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:15:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45678 Whether or not he will ever admit it I bet deep down he regrets not signing an extension when Lorenzo offered him one. 6 fight contract I believe was the rumor? Whether or not he will ever admit it I bet deep down he regrets not signing an extension when Lorenzo offered him one. 6 fight contract I believe was the rumor?

]]> By: Sergio G. Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/23/paying-for-tito-ortiz-is-like-buying-a-pair-of-expensive-jeans-and-paying-for-a-label/comment-page-1/#comment-45677 Sergio G. Hernandez Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:13:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=5670#comment-45677 If you're anyone but the UFC, paying for Tito Ortiz is like buying a pair of expensive jeans that will eventually cause you to be bankrupt. But in all seriousness, the analogy from unnamed MMA executive is pretty spot on. If you’re anyone but the UFC, paying for Tito Ortiz is like buying a pair of expensive jeans that will eventually cause you to be bankrupt.

But in all seriousness, the analogy from unnamed MMA executive is pretty spot on.

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