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	<title>Comments on: Is Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock Worth It?</title>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW... nice column on kimbo u stupid idiot... LMAO KIMBO SUCKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW&#8230; nice column on kimbo u stupid idiot&#8230; LMAO KIMBO SUCKS
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		<title>By: jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kimbo has to start somewhere. anyway if anyone here has any idea of how shit is marketed. u have to build it up. hes obviousally a great guy at standing and trading punches with if u can even handle it! hes been in the gym latley workin on his ground game. im sure he will come away with a win.but will shamrock give him a chance to show it this weekend! we can only wait and see~! people drink your hatter-aid! be jealous. this guy is gonna knock some fuckin teeth out in his day. im happy to be around to see some real fights!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kimbo has to start somewhere. anyway if anyone here has any idea of how shit is marketed. u have to build it up. hes obviousally a great guy at standing and trading punches with if u can even handle it! hes been in the gym latley workin on his ground game. im sure he will come away with a win.but will shamrock give him a chance to show it this weekend! we can only wait and see~! people drink your hatter-aid! be jealous. this guy is gonna knock some fuckin teeth out in his day. im happy to be around to see some real fights!
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		<title>By: aaronb</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: EXC recent heavyweight matchups:

I can&#039;t really fault EXC for their recent heavy weight matchups. What they are doing is just good business. Before their last show they didn&#039;t even have a crowned champ. The idea behind a good promotion is building up to the main fights. Silva,Hermann,Kimbo,Rogers all winning is their attempt to build momentum towards big HW fights. No promotion with any long term plan just throws their best 4 fighters into a card and lets them fight right out of the gate. It would be beyond stupid. The better way (the way they are doing it), is to put each guy on cards facing lesser opponents. Let these guys build their momentum by looking as impressive as possible. Then book them against each other when interest is at it&#039;s peak. UFC is doing this with their Lesnar/Valsquez/Carwin trio. EXC is doing it with their top guys as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: EXC recent heavyweight matchups:</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t really fault EXC for their recent heavy weight matchups. What they are doing is just good business. Before their last show they didn&#8217;t even have a crowned champ. The idea behind a good promotion is building up to the main fights. Silva,Hermann,Kimbo,Rogers all winning is their attempt to build momentum towards big HW fights. No promotion with any long term plan just throws their best 4 fighters into a card and lets them fight right out of the gate. It would be beyond stupid. The better way (the way they are doing it), is to put each guy on cards facing lesser opponents. Let these guys build their momentum by looking as impressive as possible. Then book them against each other when interest is at it&#8217;s peak. UFC is doing this with their Lesnar/Valsquez/Carwin trio. EXC is doing it with their top guys as well.
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		<title>By: OCD</title>
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		<dc:creator>OCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing about this fight is that shows how stupid Ken is, and how his management doesn&#039;t give a shit about his legacy.

Beat Kimbo = he should, he has more experience and of course he is the &quot;World&#039;s Most Dangerous Man.&quot;

Lose to Kimbo = he should, he&#039;s lost his last five fights and is clearly not the fighter of old and Kimbo is a &quot;beast.&quot;

Shamcock can&#039;t win either way. He looked HORRIBLE in his last fight. And frankly that is what people are going to remember about this fight. He will be one step above Tank Abbott, and that&#039;s about it. He should be called &quot;Sham-mock&quot; because this is all a sham and he&#039;s mocking his former self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing about this fight is that shows how stupid Ken is, and how his management doesn&#8217;t give a shit about his legacy.</p>
<p>Beat Kimbo = he should, he has more experience and of course he is the &#8220;World&#8217;s Most Dangerous Man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lose to Kimbo = he should, he&#8217;s lost his last five fights and is clearly not the fighter of old and Kimbo is a &#8220;beast.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shamcock can&#8217;t win either way. He looked HORRIBLE in his last fight. And frankly that is what people are going to remember about this fight. He will be one step above Tank Abbott, and that&#8217;s about it. He should be called &#8220;Sham-mock&#8221; because this is all a sham and he&#8217;s mocking his former self.
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		<title>By: Jason G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think overall people watching mma for the first time and seeing Kimbo is going to hurt the legitimacy of mma. If they&#039;re observant, they&#039;ll notice that Kimbo&#039;s fight isn&#039;t nearly as technical as the other fights on the main card but that&#039;s about it. I&#039;d be more worried if they saw some of the crap Nick Diaz and KJ Noons do after fights. Most people aren&#039;t going to notice and just see an exciting knockout and be pleased. It doesn&#039;t matter if they think he&#039;s the best as long as the continue to watch in the future. When they watch more they&#039;ll become informed. The media used to write horrible articles about mma calling it &quot;ultimate fighting&quot; and not checking their facts but as general knowledge increased, the articles got better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think overall people watching mma for the first time and seeing Kimbo is going to hurt the legitimacy of mma. If they&#8217;re observant, they&#8217;ll notice that Kimbo&#8217;s fight isn&#8217;t nearly as technical as the other fights on the main card but that&#8217;s about it. I&#8217;d be more worried if they saw some of the crap Nick Diaz and KJ Noons do after fights. Most people aren&#8217;t going to notice and just see an exciting knockout and be pleased. It doesn&#8217;t matter if they think he&#8217;s the best as long as the continue to watch in the future. When they watch more they&#8217;ll become informed. The media used to write horrible articles about mma calling it &#8220;ultimate fighting&#8221; and not checking their facts but as general knowledge increased, the articles got better.
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		<title>By: 209</title>
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		<dc:creator>209</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Ken can pull it off... Knee Baror heel hook in the 2nd round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Ken can pull it off&#8230; Knee Baror heel hook in the 2nd round.
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What pisses me off isn&#039;t that they aren&#039;t using Rogers, it&#039;s that the past 2 big HW match ups EXC has given us (Silva/Eilers,  Kimbo/Shamrock) are farces.  You know who is going to win.  Eilers didn&#039;t stand a chance and neither does Shamrock.  You have available talent you can use (Herman/Rogers/Murphy) that are compelling matchups.  If Silva is a top 10 (and I think he can be if tested) then make the HW title match against Rogers.  If Kimbo is your star and as bad a man as you market him to be, then have him face a legit fighter, not someone who doesn&#039;t know when to retire.  Kimbo/Murphy or Kimbo/Herman would be amazing fights and if Herman wins, you have a legit new star and Kimbo&#039;s drawing power only slightly dwindles.  If Kimbo loses to Ken, you&#039;re SOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What pisses me off isn&#8217;t that they aren&#8217;t using Rogers, it&#8217;s that the past 2 big HW match ups EXC has given us (Silva/Eilers,  Kimbo/Shamrock) are farces.  You know who is going to win.  Eilers didn&#8217;t stand a chance and neither does Shamrock.  You have available talent you can use (Herman/Rogers/Murphy) that are compelling matchups.  If Silva is a top 10 (and I think he can be if tested) then make the HW title match against Rogers.  If Kimbo is your star and as bad a man as you market him to be, then have him face a legit fighter, not someone who doesn&#8217;t know when to retire.  Kimbo/Murphy or Kimbo/Herman would be amazing fights and if Herman wins, you have a legit new star and Kimbo&#8217;s drawing power only slightly dwindles.  If Kimbo loses to Ken, you&#8217;re SOL.
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		<title>By: Levi M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Levi M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! Am I the only one that thinks the EliteXC made a HUGE mistake here. I truly believe that a 44yr old Ken Shamrock is light tears ahead of Kimbo. There is no way that Kimbo stands a chance against Ken. I HATE Ken Shamrock...I think the guy is a tard, but he will go into this with a gameplan to stay away from Kimbos homerun punches and get him against the cage to set up a take down, we all saw what happens to Kimbo when that happens. If James Thompson could do this, for god sakes an old, blind KenShamrock could pull it off! And, from the ground Ken will hit hard...alot harder than James&#039; pitty patters!

I am picking Ken Shamrock to shock Adam Morgan, blah blah blah, and win the battle of the tards in October. TKO Round 1!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Am I the only one that thinks the EliteXC made a HUGE mistake here. I truly believe that a 44yr old Ken Shamrock is light tears ahead of Kimbo. There is no way that Kimbo stands a chance against Ken. I HATE Ken Shamrock&#8230;I think the guy is a tard, but he will go into this with a gameplan to stay away from Kimbos homerun punches and get him against the cage to set up a take down, we all saw what happens to Kimbo when that happens. If James Thompson could do this, for god sakes an old, blind KenShamrock could pull it off! And, from the ground Ken will hit hard&#8230;alot harder than James&#8217; pitty patters!</p>
<p>I am picking Ken Shamrock to shock Adam Morgan, blah blah blah, and win the battle of the tards in October. TKO Round 1!
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		<title>By: Bill Lumberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Lumberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fergi ------lol,lol,lol-forever lives fergi and j-fed are carrying on the tradition j-fed&#039;s dad created- fixed fights, try and destroy a sport by promoting a circus instead of the sport itself. Do they really think buillding Fergi this way is going to lead to great PPV sales?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fergi &#8212;&#8212;lol,lol,lol-forever lives fergi and j-fed are carrying on the tradition j-fed&#8217;s dad created- fixed fights, try and destroy a sport by promoting a circus instead of the sport itself. Do they really think buillding Fergi this way is going to lead to great PPV sales?
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		<title>By: tallsforeverybody</title>
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		<dc:creator>tallsforeverybody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what exactly is Kimbo&#039;s fighting style???  It&#039;s certainly not MMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what exactly is Kimbo&#8217;s fighting style???  It&#8217;s certainly not MMA.
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