5 Oz. Exclusive: The camp for Brett Rogers issues another response to Kimbo Slice
September 1, 2008 by Sam Caplan
Filed under Brett Rogers, Kimbo Slice
The first time we posted a statement from the camp of Brett Rogers it got us kicked off of our server. Well, FiveOuncesOfPain.com was contacted again by Mike Reilly, the manager for Rogers as well as the head trainer at Team Bison, who has issued a second statement released EXCLUSIVELY to Five Ounces of Pain (note to other editors: feel free to use excerpts and post a link to the complete statement on our site, but unless the statement is released directly to you, you do not have our permission to run it in its entirety).
This second statement from the Rogers camp is in response to a rebuttal that had been issued by Team Kimbo late last week.
Below is the response to the response, and we’ll keep our fingers crossed that it doesn’t crash the site:
OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM THE CAMP OF BRETT ROGERS
We laughed and laughed and then laughed some more… then sort of forgot what we were laughing about and then we remembered and laughed some more; grabbed a bag of Doritos and those KICK ASS brownies they sell at Costco (they fucking rule!) and came up with this response that Kimbo will understand.
With all the talk and about the Kimbo situation let me be Blunt. I would hate to see this whole deal go up in Smoke when Kenny hammers Kimbo. We don’t want to be a Chronic pest; like a Roach on a white rug but we want our shot. Now far be it from us to Harsh anyone’s Buzz so we will be nicer in our comments going forward.
My Auntie Mary Jane said what the world needs is more Tender Huggin Care (THC). So before any bridges get burnt we will put a lid on the negative. We are not just going to huff and puff; we will just wait ’till the numbers are right and then we will get out from behind the 8-ball, jump from limbo and just hope it happens sometime before Kimbo B-40. Right now I know a lot of hoppers be looking at us with Chinese Eyes wondering if we will set the whole world a blaze. But we like they will just have to wait and while our desire to hear the bell go bam grows like a weed; we will just lay in the grass biding our time with our buds.
Thanks
– Team Bison on behalf of Brett Rogers
P.S. Damn it is 4:20… I gots to go… Anyone see Kimbo tell him I said HIGH-HIGH
To read the first statement from the camp of Brett Rogers, click here.
To read the response from Team Kimbo to the Rogers camp, click here.
i hate elitexc and pray for its downfall
Team Bison IS THE ONE THAT’S STONED!… They said they laughed & laughed, forgot what they were laughing about and got doritos n’ brownies…MUCHIES’ then they sent this off.
tricky dick
brett is a better fighter than kimbo, that’s a fact, and he could become a draw quickly with a fight vs kimbo. so he is doing the smart thing for his career just by drumming up some attention for such a bout. god forbid the guy should want to be PAID for his TALENT.
And yeah, I think this feud is exceptionally stupid- that doesn’t mean brett rogers isn’t doing something smart here. bottomline, kimbo is only an OK fighter so if rogers has to say a few stupid things to get his chance to KO kimbo, go for it, I say.
Fucking weak.
This is pathetic.
My thought is that Rogers is saying that for Kimbo to say what he said about Rogers, he must be high.
In all truthfulness I think Rogers would beat the crap out of Kimbo. Bas has said many times that he and Kimbo’s managers are going to give Kimbo the best possible fights to keep him winning. So even Bas knows that if they would meet at this time in Kimbo’s career Kimbo wouldn’t stand a chance.
Caplan – I think we will have to agree to disagree because what you said earlier didnt make much sense. And since when do you have to respond to a statement made by an ordinary reader like myself. Something must have touched a nerve. And Im not convinced that the first story on B Rogers was what made it crash. At least thats what we are told.
Of course Sam needs to post this. Wouldn’t you rather have actual primary source content from the fighters whenever possible? Sam and the five ounce crew provide great analysis – I would argue the best analysis on the web – but I still want to hear from the actual guys in the ring whenever possible. Shit guys – that’s good journalism. Just make fun of the dumbass issuing the statement if it sucks…
Word on the street is that it took them all day to come up with that witty retort.
F’king Amazing, Yo!
I whole heartedly agree that a Ferguson-Rogers fight is necessary. I understand that EXC is trying to protect their fighter. If you exclude Kimbo’s interweb legend (fame, or whatever you want to call it) he only has 3 fights against fighters that may have been good in the past. Rogers has a bit more experience, and is probably a better fighter right now. There is no reason to be calling out Kimbo. Rogers should be looking to fight the champion, which Kimbo is not, rather than perpetuate this silly feud. Between this nonsense and the silly spew from $kala, it ends up making EXC look like TNA style schills. The statement is so ridiculous and contrived, it ends up making the Bison camp look a bit silly. I wonder what would happen if they tested Rogers people?
I bet if you took a poll from your hardcore and average fight fans there would be a majority of us that want to see quality fights and less drama. Even the UFC has been moving in that direction (see last season of TUF).
lol, fightlinker already gave you a fuck you and ripped the whole story. damn their ass holes
LOL. The guy is just jealous that pretty much no one in the industry talks to him. He’s never been able to handle the fact that both our sites started at the same time yet we grew a lot faster. There’s was a time he used to publicly praise this site and then last December when our Alexa ranking started climbing, he started burying us for things that other sites were doing and claiming he was just calling it like he saw it. If he was being fair and honest, why was he giving other sites a pass?
If someone releases an exclusive statement to a media outlet, another outlet doesn’t have the right to re-print the entire thing just like it couldn’t re-print an entire article or an entire interview. Excerpts are allowed. We run EXCERPTS, not articles in their entirety. A lot of people ran the entire statement without our permission. I politely asked them to amend their posts. Nobody had a problem with that. A lot of writers in this industry don’t come from the journalism field and aren’t aware what’s allowed and what’s not. So I explained it.
A few said it was unclear whether it was an exclusive statement released to us or a statement released to the media. So this time, I decided to make it clear that the statement was exclusive to us. What, I am supposed to feel bad about his lack of knowledge of basic journalism? I’m supposed to give him hand outs and allow him to print statements released exclusively to us while I am up late at night calling sources when he’s getting drunk off his ass and recording it?
I’m a bad guy because I’d like other sites to respect my copyright? I work hard to foster relationships within the industry so that I can get exclusive news for the people that read this site. I’m not going to apologize for not sitting on my hands while people steal my work. I’m sick of that guy trying to verbally bully sites and personally attacking fighters and no one speaking out about it. All he does is project negativity and try to bring down others he perceives to be more successful than him. There is such a thing as karma and it’s going to come back to him at some point.
Kel wrote:
There is no reason to be calling out Kimbo. Rogers should be looking to fight the champion, which Kimbo is not, rather than perpetuate this silly feud.
The EXC champion (Bigfoot Silva) just came up positive for steroids and began serving a 1-year suspension- and there’s a good chance he’ll be stripped of the title in the meantime. Calling him out at this point is a waste of time, but calling out Kimbo? Makes perfect sense. Rogers beating Kimbo would turn him into the new giant scary black man of EXC, and he even has the skills to back up such an image (at least relative to the EXC quality of competition)
Fightlinker never had the pretention to be a news site. You dont go to FL to get your MMA news. You go there to have a good laugh and be entertained.
They get the job done.
Why would they try to be another MMAJUNKIE clone ?
Sam I think you need some sleep. Fightlinker laughing about you just means they acknowledge you. It’s what they do.
If this was an attempt to depict Kimbo as a pothead it wasn’t done in a very smart way. If you want to let people know your possible opponent is using MJ, then it’s best not to sound like you are on it yourself….
Sam, love your site. i have been a fan since day one. Got to call you out on this one though dude, you re sounded a bit whiney. Give it a rest. it’s annoying to read your rants about only the negative stuff people say about you or your site. 99% of all who come here are very supportive of your site as well as you and your family endeavors in MMA. Fightlinker is what it is. Its good for the sport and it fills a void many of us enjoy. Don’t grip about the small stuff as it only makes you look like a douche.
Congrats, your blog gets a few more hits than an MMA humour blog. I can see how such a huge accomplishment could make one a little cocky but could you please do us all a favor and get your head out of your ass and stop acting like such a little bitch?
I must agree with commenter Tertio on this one. Fightlinker indeed never claims or claimed to be a news site. I check out linker for the humorous spin on stories, not the facts and specifics. Ranting on in the comments section about your beef with Harkness in such detail seems well beneath you, Sam, and will only open up another unnecessary can of worms. With respect to your own opinion, I do find it rather pretentious and silly that you made it a point to state that other sites do not have the right to run the statement in its entirety. Yes, that sort of thing should be implied but, as fightlinker has already showed you, other, more ballsy sites will now run the entire statement purely out of spite. I appreciate your work and this website, but l can’t help but feel like your original statement as well as your lengthy comment wreak of school yard backtalk and elitism. And that kind of undeserved, inflated sense of importance will not help those precious traffic numbers, Sam.
But he passes his drug tests?
Michael, to be honest, I really don’t need a lecture from someone telling me what is beneath me. Sorry to disappoint, but I am an opinionated person and I am not afraid to express it. I’m not Brian Williams. We’re not covering politics or world affairs, we’re covering fighting for crying out loud.
I’m not going to be some robot news slave for you. Sorry to break it to you, but there is a real person on the other end of this computer. And it’s silly to try and suggest that I not rant because that is how this site got started: by me expressing my opinions. While we do a lot of news now, I’m still going to speak out whether people can handle it or not. And who says I have any sense of importance? Because I expect people to respect my copyright? Are you kidding me? So I guess you’re okay with the concept of someone possibly stealing from you? And Michael, thanks for your concern, but our traffic is doing just fine.
And MMA-Elite, who is the one with the head up their ass? A FEW more hits than a humor site? Uh, why you do go to Alexa.com and check the rankings?
The Alexa Toolbar is known as Spyware, and almost any Anti-Spyware solution you run on your computer properly will flag and ask to remove it. Therefore, many people do not use the Alexa Toolbar, except for people who aren’t educated enough about it, and click every pop up they see on their computer. I would have to say, professionally, it’s not a good measure of internet traffic, for any site, at any time, as it does not account for a huge majority of internet users.
Clearly we disagree, but I appreciate your response, Sam. Like you noted this is your site so you can do whatever you like regarding content, copyright, etc., but I think there is a more tactful way to go about making citation requests and so forth in the future- just my two cents. Try not to let the linker get to you, he does his thing, you do yours, people understand the difference between entertainment and news. Thats why most of us out there visit this site as well as BE, mania, junkie, etc. first, then check out the likes of fightlinker for the lighter side of things. Be easy.
Sam – as someone who recently graduated from journalism school, I definitely see where you’re coming from. Anyway, you broke the story (or got the scoop, whichever you prefer). On the Internet, that’s about as good as anyone can hope for. Exclusivity won’t ever happen because the copyright laws haven’t completely caught up with technology and people are willing to bet you don’t have the money to sue even if you could actually pin down exactly who broke your copyright.
Sam, you need to unwind just a bit. First off let me say this site is one of only about 3 or 4 I read with any regularity and I think it’s great the way you have grown. I understand your desire to want to protect things you work hard on but you also need to understand that FL and 5 ounces are two totally different concepts.
I like your site for timely news and some pretty insightful analysis, I like fightlinker because, well, I’m the type of person that laughs and makes a snotty remark when I see a small child fall down at the playground or I see a really fat person wearing spandex.
You obviously know the FL guys and should have know someone (likely them) was going to call you on your exclusivity note. It reeked of “screw you guys, I have a new toy and I’m not sharing.”
Bottom line is you do a great serious NEWS site and should be proud of what you accomplished.
PS: If I ever go to fightlinker for serious news, please come to my house and hold my head underwater until I stop struggling