Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar: It’s All About The Benjamins
Earlier today we were treated to the announcement from Dana White that Randy Couture would be returning to the UFC. Not only will he be returning to the UFC but he will be fighting Brock Lesnar in a bout that White himself called “the biggest fight in UFC history.” And while it may not be the most meaningful fight in UFC history, he’s very correct in calling it the biggest fight in UFC history. Why? Because this fight and the fighters involved all revolve around one thing: money.
It’s not about whether or not Lesnar is legitimate enough to deserve a title shot. It’s not about what’s going on with Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Frank Mir, TUF 8, and the interim title situation. It’s not about where Fabricio Werdum, who was told he would get a title shot sooner than later, goes from here. And it’s almost certainly not about the fight that Randy supposedly left the UFC for, which is the fight with Fedor. It’s about money.
But hasn’t it always been about money? Sure, Couture wanted to fight Fedor and said that played into his decision to leave the UFC but when it came down to it, it was the money that Couture wanted. He drug his bout agreements into the public eye for all to see at a special press conference from his own gym. The UFC brought their records out into public, something they never do, to show how much money they were paying Couture. So how much of this was really a ploy to get the fight with Fedor? Some of it, I’m sure. But not as much as most had previously thought. Not as much as we’d like to think. Obviously with Lesnar now in front of him and possibly the winner of Nogueira vs. Mir, it’s unlikely that we’ll see Couture vs. Fedor. Ever.
Why, you ask? Because Randy Couture vs. Brock Lesnar for the UFC heavyweight championship of the world will be one of the all time biggest pay per views in UFC history. I personally think it will outsell both Chuck Liddell vs. Tito Ortiz, the current #1 UFC pay per view, as well as Ken Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz, which stands at #2 on the list. Couture’s drawing power combined with Lesnar’s drawing power is going to make for a huge payday for both men as well as the UFC. So what it all boils down to is money, plain and simple. I’m sure Couture would still love a crack at Fedor but that fight isn’t going to make him the kind of money that a fight with Lesnar will.
Is Fedor vs. Couture the fight we all want to see? Absolutely. But is it a fight that Casual Joe will pay $45 for? Absolutely not. Randy Couture and Brock Lesnar, though? Now those are two big names that Casual Joe can get behind. Fedor vs. Couture is for someone like you or me who watches every bit of MMA they can get their hands on and then your more casual MMA fan who knows who Fedor is. Couture vs. Lesnar, however, is for all those people plus the people that wouldn’t normally watch MMA. It’s for all the wrestling fans who want to see Lesnar against the most legitimate opponent he’s ever faced. It’s a fight for the masses not the hardcores.
Is that unfortunate in some ways? It sure is. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira has to feel extremely disrespected. Frank Mir has to feel the same way because if Lesnar wins and he beats Nogueira then he’s got to fight a guy that he’s already beaten for the second time in three fights. Fabricio Werdum has to be thinking that he has to win at least two, if not three more fights to get himself back into title contention now as opposed to fighting for the title after one win. But you know what? Such is business. As much as we love mixed martial arts as a sport we have to also realize that it’s very big business when it comes to the UFC. They are going to make smart business decisions in regards to pay per views and matchups and not always what pleases the fan. Why? Because the bottom line is all that matters. It’s all about the Benjamins, baby.
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I’m with you, Adam. This will set a new buyrate record walking away.
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Dana White is a smart man.
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Everyone wanted brock to face a quality opponent…..and now he is! Sure is a shame though. He’ll kill Randy and then get a title shot against Big Nog. A title shot in his fifth professional fight. I hope he leaves one of his big arms out so Nog can break it off!
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preach on brotha
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The UFC is officially the WWE…
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i think its ridic
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This fight is BS.
Straight up BS.
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I want to see this fight. Does Lesnar “deserve” a shot at the title now, no obviously not but when you think about it, he would be a worthy champion.
Think about it, a lot of people don’t like that Lesnar is getting a shot at the title so soon. Fair point. But… if lesnar beats Randy Couture and then beats the winner of the Mir/Nog fight, is he not the best heavyweight in the UFC? I would say yes. Remember people, Lesnar is getting a shot at the title, not a one and done title bout. If he gets past randy and the winner of the NOG/Mir fight, how is he not the undisputed champion.
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wha wha waaaah
This is not about FEELINGS
“There’s No Crying In Baseball” ~ Tom Hanks
Baseball is full of over payed pu$$ies (see: Jose Canseco)
To be the Champ you have to BEAT the Champ!
Randy is the champ and prolly the only one that has the BALLS to fight a monster like Brock.
Frank Mir is looking to me to be in the best postition & I think he will be wearing the strap in 2009. (if he gets a shot)
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Adam, well said. Professional sports is, at the end of the day, a business. Professional athletes have a limited amount of time to earn money. They must do so when they can. Ownership also wants to earn as much money as possible while they can. Will professional MMA stand the test of time? In the interim it looks like ownership will continue to exploit its talent to the extent it can. Randy recognized that while he is talented, he could not earn as much money anywhere else.
It really works for both. But it is all about the money!
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i seriously orgasmed when i heard the fight was unofficial. its gonna be one for the ages.
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Props to Dana. He knows what he’s doing.
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The fight still should have been in Portland Randy has alot of loyal fans up here in the northwest from his days at Team Quest
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@ bdavis, so are you saying that Heath Hearing wasn’t a quality opponent? Because he was about as legit as an opponent as you can get.
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Yep, Dana White does it again. The thing I don’t like about this fight is that it feels forced. My read is that the UFC wants to mirror what EliteXC is trying to do with Kimbo Slice – take a name that Joe Sixpack knows from outside of MMA and let him headline major fights.
The difference is that Dana is smart and is taking someone with a great collegiate wrestling background and having him fight legit opponents. That’s going to make this whole ride much better than what EliteXC and CBS is trying to force down everyone’s throat.
In the end, though, it’s still too early to be giving Lesnar a shot at being either a title-holder or the No. 1 contender, depending on how you look at it.
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so let me get this straight….people are b*tching (including people involved with the UFC) because kimbo slice headlines fights for cr*ppy elitexc cuz he’s only 3-0 and fights cans.
yet dana white gives brock lesnar, who’s 1-1 in the UFC, losing in 90 seconds to mir (and mir doesn’t get the title shot??) and wins in a decision against herring (who had to go to a decision against brad imes, who isn’t even around anymore!) and people are okay with this?
lesnar hasn’t fought anyone worth spit yet!
people are pissed cuz with elitexc, it’s all about their cash cow kimbo slice….so what does that make lesnar? UFC’s cash cow! 1-1 and you get a title shot?
BS!
and i’m not kimbo fan either.
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this is most definitely the biggest fight in UFC history. It will live up to hype in terms of PPV buyrate.
The only bittersweet outcome from the whole thing will be that the Fedor vs. Randy fight will never happen. Lesnar will defeat Couture in shocking fashion. Setting up Lesnar vs. Noguera, which if promoted right – capitalizing on Noguera’s warrior spirit against the odds (video of Noguera vs. Bob Sapp & taking that head kick from Crocop) as well as a monster push for a monster, Lesnar, then that will be just as big.
A title defense or 2 for Lesnar against a pool of competition including Werdum, Velasquez, and a returning Crocop…
All these are fanciful scenarios for sure. One thing is for real though – the UFC’s Heavyweight Division just got a WHOLE lot more interesting.
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I say Lesnar destroys Mir in a rematch. He was totally dominating the fight before that bullshit call by Mazzagatti. And like said above, you have to love the fact that they are throwing Lesnar right to the wolves. They are not babying him along Kimbo style. This is also a very winnable fight for Lesnar. I never count Randy out but this is a pretty tall order. He’s going to have to use his skill and experience to outsmart Lesnar. Let’s not forget that Randy has been out of the cage for a year. All things aside I think this is one of the most intriguing matchups to come out of the UFC HW division in a long time. Couple this with the big year end card and the UFC is giving a big time 1-2 punch to the competition to close out the year.
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That call on Lesnar when he was hitting Mir OVER AND OVER again in the back of the head wasn’t bullshit, it was completely warranted seeing how he hit Mir around 5-6 times repeatedly in the no-no zone.
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It was ONE shot to the back of the head as Mir turned away because he was done. Watch the fight again if you have to. Post a clip.
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no shit this is bullshit, this is childish. the smartest thing couture could do was go back to ufc to complete his contract. BUT THAT SHOULDA BEEN A YEAR AGO. THEN FIGHT FEDOR. WHICH I DO NOT BELIEVE HE HAS A CHANCE.
THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL TO FRANK MIR AND BIG NOG. I HATE FRANK MIR BUT HIS CAREER DESERVES BETTER THEN THIS.
I didnt knwo they fought 2 times already? im talking bout lesnar and mir.
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I would like to see this fight and I am a hardcore fan of mma. I think it will come down to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira winning and Randy couture winning then they make the mega fight between them two for the hardcore fans and that way everyone is happy. Also everyone gets filthy rich at the same time it is genious. If all works out then Fedor will be a free agent and he will strike a deal with the UFC to make Fedor vs Randy for his third and final fight of his career. Then Couture will go down in history as the greatest fighter to ever walk the planet. If anyone thinks Lesnar will win then all I can do is laugh because just a month ago everyone was saying Lesnar was a joke and he couldn’t hang with the big boys. I have full confidence that The Natural will have a solid winning game plan for Brock and prove once again why he is Captain America.
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Frank Mir be disrespected? I would have to think everytime he hears Brock Lesnar call him Frank “Meur” that it stings a little. Poor guy
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Lesnar wins. He is too big and too strong. Heath Herring is 6′4 250 pounds and he threw him around like a rag doll. How was lesnar only 15 pounds heavier than Herring, against a 225 pound fighter I see lesnar controlling this entire fight. Other than Lesnar leaving a submission open, how on earth is Couture going to handle Lesnar, by the time the fight rolls around Lesnar is 50 pounds heavier and multiple times stronger. Brock Lesnar is the future champ like it or not.
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Does anybody remember that Randy got his first heavyweight title shot in only his FOURTH MMA fight? This will be Lesnar’s third. That’s one fight difference. When you consider that Randy’s first two fights were at the same event, they’re equal. You can claim that things are different now with MMA being so much bigger and more popular, but the UFC’s heavyweight division is pretty lean since so many fighters left for Affliction.
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dam, bunch of haters! I agree that randy did this for money, true true. remember though he signed a contract in which he had to be faithful 2, n at his age he cant waste time and wait with these legal disputes, n he knows the ufc treatin real good. I want fedor more than anything 2, boo hoo ufc haters but hes 2 stubborn like you and thats y we wont see it. I loved pride but they pussy’d out. Gotta give the ufc props, they handlin. N brock dont deserve a shot so soon, but he is a worthy contender. But dont take it a way from captain america, Hes handled big charging beast n impressed with his standup. I think brock will be sorry if he thinks he’ll run thru him. Oh N werdum is a boring fighter.
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Get over it man- UFC is doing the best they can with the situation. Is it ideal- no but Randy is 45 and I can see Dana giving him a huge check due the PPV this is going to bring. I guess the people complaining that MIR deserves the shot actually think Randy vs mir would do better PPV? The point is Randy gets more $$$$ which is all he really cared about sorry to bring that to you. And MIR/NOG still get a shot at the title it is basically a tournamentl. Do you really have to bit@# about something all the time. Celebrate the fact that we have some entertaining MMA coming up for the next 6 months because of this. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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But what if lesnar wins? wouldn’t that be earth shattering?
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i agree i have no clue how couture will deal with size/strength… submission seems the only way out, i cant see him being able to mount the 300lber
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I love these people whining about Brock’s credibility and ‘right’ to fight Couture. They are truly clueless.
Believe me, Mir and Nog absolutely LOVE this. Nog knows his title was never clean, but previously he never had a chance to earn it 100% if Randy was not in the UFC. So either Mir or Nog will likely continue to hold a disputable, fictitious Interim HW Title belt and the winner fights the Randy/Brock winner for a GINOURMOUS PPV that was way bigger than before. They will still fight as scheduled in Dec. They will still get paid the same for their Dec fight and now the winner has an even bigger payday waiting for him 3 months later. What is gonna be their problem… wait 3 months to make a million extra????
Disrespect…. A Sham…. Unjust…. Hahahahahaha!!!!
Those are the words of clueless folks who don’t understand the real world where Affliction and Elite needed to be bitch slapped by the UFC and where Randy proved once and for all that its all about the Benjamins…
This was a massive stroke of genius. Kudos!
Cheers Mates
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Give Lesnar credit. In 3 fights he’s fought 1, a can, 2 a former world champ (Mir), and 3, a world class heavyweight (Herring) who’s fought almost every top heavyweight in the world including Fedor and Nogueira. Now he’s going to fight Captain America, UFC Hall of Famer and current heavyweight champion Randy Couture in just his 4th fight. Give the man credit, he’s more than worthy. what other fighter can say he’s been fast tracked, or thrown to the wolves like Brock Lesnar.
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Correct me if Im wrong….but does Tim Sylvia also cut down to the maximum 265 limit? Look how Randy handled him.
Granted BL is more explosive, but the beauty of Ju-Jitsu/experience is designed to work against the larger opponent.
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What a circus.
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Kimbo who?
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Nice to see you can read Couture’s mind… It sounds more like a case of, “I’m all about money, therefore everyone else must be too.” It couldn’t possibly be that this is the quickest way for Randy to wash his hands of the UFC for good.
That said, I don’t have any problem with the fight. Lesnar lucked into a weak HW division, and it’s hardly his fault that he has a ton of drawing power. Even with Lesnar’s massive size advantage, Randy is still a world above him in skill, experience, game-planning, etc. So it ought to make for an interesting fight as long as Randy has enough in him to negate Lesnar’s size and force him to display skill.
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Nm on the first comment from my previous post. I didn’t realize he signed a completely new contract. You’re right, it is about the benjamins…
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coutore was out of the octogon for a year when he fought silvia. silvia got dominated. so did gonzaga. and the lesnar herring fight herring sat there the whole time and took a beating. coutores not gonna do that.
remember after silvia nog nog said bring handy lol back and ill fight him. he might get his chance.
i love coutore. at 45 hes still whoppin up on fools. how is he already not the best fighter ever.
is the fight not in portland. if not thats bad. i live in corvallis and i would have went.
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Yeah I figured this would happen eventually. I hope Brock wins to convincingly shut people’s mouths!!
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But if i was putting money on it, I would bet on Randy!
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This is painful. I so want to hate Brock from the first instant. And I like Randy’s fights quite a bit. But… against Herring, Brock was trying to work, even when he looked a little confused, and wasn’t sure what to do. Great shape for a big man and the confusion is fine… he can get the tools as he goes. He does seem interested. But he’s so dang FAST! Just way too fast combined with those freakshow long arms with meat hammers at the ends. If his hand eye coordination is worth a spit… Sorry, he shows just enough potential (past the fake wrestling BS) that I just can’t stay a hater. Hope he drops the Ortiz “bad boy” dramatics though.
Too bad about the age gap or the weight gap might be somewhat tolerable. It’s a Light Heavyweight against a Super Heavyweight — a two class jump! I still hope Randy will win, but I just don’t see any way for him to do it (there’s still that 10% on an given night though).
Everything these days is about money everywhere. But this also gets Dana’s lawyers off of his back, and better insurance (presumably for his wife that had her jaw smashed open recently as well).
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did lesnar sign a 3 fight deal? maybe this match is just to make sure the ufc gets some return on the considerable investment in lesnar. I’ve never been a fan of the obscene pay difference in lesnar and his opponents thus far.
lesnar may be the next big thing, but like kimbo, he has a lot of growing to do first. to his credit, lesnar has most definitely shown improvements within the cage.
however, I think giving him a title shot at this point is a slap in the face of just about every other heavyweight.
from a strictly business, money making standpoint, though, I can’t much argue. and the angle of putting other promos at a serious disadvantage by signing randy is big. I wonder how many of these promos were banking on being the ones who landed randy? much less randy vs. fedor?
but I am elated to have randy back in the ufc.
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Hey Pitbull17. Sorry in my haste to drop a message I forgot about herring. Herring is ok. Probably top 15 at best. No disrespect meant towards herring. I like him except for that stupid colored hair. He needs to lose that when he comes to fight.
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WEllllll…..unfortunetly money is the root of all evil, and its now the name of the game that these “superstars” are going to be requesting. I still think that affliction is paying better, but yeah lets see how this pans out….
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If we are to believe that Fedor vs Randy will never happen because it can’t make as much money as Brock vs Randy, then we might as well shut down all MMA promotions on Nov. 16th. Randy losing to Brock actually makes the Fedor fight easier, since Dana may be more willing to co-promote a fight when the UFC belt can’t be rolled into the WAMMA issue. Plus, not knowing how the contract is written, Randy may be free and clear from the UFC if he loses, allowing Affliction to do the Fedor fight.
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UFC = Circus
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Excellent take on the whole issue, Sam. I made just about the same comments yesterday on an earlier submission.
However, I would have added that the Fedor/Couture fight still CAN happen, but only after Couture completes his 3 fights in the UFC.
At that point, we will either have Couture able to fight a single fight (probably for big bucks) in Affliction, if it still exists, OR Affliction will be no more and Fedor will have only one place to go if he wants to fight in the big leagues, the UFC.
Couture is the winner money wise in this situation, but I think he is the loser long run. He will be facing Lesnar, which will be a very tough fight for him. I consider the fight similar to trying to beat a Bradley fighting vehicle with an army Jeep. Sure the jeep might be maneuverable, but what is it going to do to a Bradley??
If, and some people say, WHEN Couture loses to Lesnar, this will diminish him considerably in the eyes of fans. Age cannot be stopped, and his “Captain America” days are pretty much over after his antics since stomping out of the UFC. Losing is just another nail in the….
Lesnar is a faster and stronger opponent than Randy Couture has EVER fought, and at his age I am dubious about his chances.
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Well,the one thing i have learned is that you can never count randy out.Lesnar is a little faster and a lot stronger but the the one thing couture can do that few fighters can do,is execute a game plan almost to perfection.And what ever that is against lesnar i’m sure it will make for a good fight.COUTURE wins 3rd RNC
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I just do not understand how some people could say Randy losing to Brock is a sure thing. I just have a hard time reading those words. It’s not that I think Randy is unbeatable (Liddel) but he always manages the amazing upset in his last couple of fights. Maybe I am missing something but I just don’t get how some people could be 100% sure that he will lose to Brock. Look at Randy’s track record and people he has beat. There are some BIG names there. I don’t know, someone get specific about the outcome and give me a little insight into what you are seeing.
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I think lost on all this, is what an ass Couture looks like now. This does indeed prove it was always about the ca$h, and never about respect. Once he figured out he couldn’t worm his way out of his contract, he came slithering back. And what does it earn him? Getting rag-dolled by a much bigger, stronger opponent.
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Dark Metal, while I agree wholeheartedly with the opinions expressed in the article, they are the words of Adam Morgan and not mine.
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I am wondering if anyone can actually perform a RNC on Lesnar…I’ve yet to even see his neck
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Talk about paydays: If Lesnar wins, he’s sitting pretty for the next contract negotiation. Yeesh. If the disparity between Brock and other fighters has been dramatic, look for it to escalate to gawdy.
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So sorry Sam, I am so used to you posting excellent articles, I guess I just jumped the gun. Adam should be commended for his article, and is a fine addition to your site.
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For everyone complaining that Couture (please spell the man’s name right!)is going to get manhandled, or that Lesnar does not desrve the fight, look at the numbers. Couture is 16-8 and Lesnar is 2-1. They are both 66% fighters. Makes the matchup not just equal, but fair. Sure Lesnar is a monstah with great speed, power and athleticism – but Couture is very crafty, smart, and freakish in his own right. Take the time and check out the Discovery Channel’s science of MMA. Couture put a submission hold on test subject, exerting constant pressure for over a minute – and his lactic acid levels went DOWN. Thats not even human. I, personally, am looking forward to this fight. I must give props to Bill Lumberg: we’ve got 6 months of great MMA coming up. Let’s enjoy it!
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Jackyl on September 2nd, 2008 10:58 pm I say Lesnar destroys Mir in a rematch. He was totally dominating the fight before that bullshit call by Mazzagatti. And like said above, you have to love the fact that they are throwing Lesnar right to the wolves. They are not babying him along Kimbo style. This is also a very winnable fight for Lesnar. I never count Randy out but this is a pretty tall order. He’s going to have to use his skill and experience to outsmart Lesnar. Let’s not forget that Randy has been out of the cage for a year. All things aside I think this is one of the most intriguing matchups to come out of the UFC HW division in a long time. Couple this with the big year end card and the UFC is giving a big time 1-2 punch to the competition to close out the year.
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I couldn’t agree more. Everyone that is bitching and moaning about Mir getting passed over either isn’t being honest, or didn’t watch the Lesnar/Mir fight. Lesnar was absolutely PUMMELING Mir and the only defense that Frank had was to turtle up and turn his head. If not for the way beyond questionable stoppage from Maz. The fight was over. No way Frank was getting out of the Lesnar side control. 99 out of 100 times Lesnar wins that fight. Where were all you people when Jardine beat Liddell? Where was the give Jardine a title shot outcry then?
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Just because Lesnar is 66% fighter doesn’t mean it’s fair.24 fights versus 3 fights.Not quite the same.But it’s all about the money.You will probably get WWE fans watching this fight even if they’ve never watched one before.Money,money,money.Lesnar also weighed around 280 the night he fought Herring not 265.
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I don’t think Mir and Nog will feel disrespected at all – Dana White has maintained throughout the Couture ordeal that the belt was an interim title and has always said that he was still considered the UFC’s heavyweight champion.
- The first thing Nog said after he submitted Sylvia was, “Randy, please fight me!” – I think Nog will be stoked Couture is back in the octagon and is relishing a potential match-up to validate himself as the UFC’s heavyweight champion. And if nothing else, I am sure Nog would also love to fight the UFC’s new heavyweight golden boy.
- Mir remained relatively calm whilst getting wailed on by Lesnar. I bet he’s looking forward to a rematch, both to redeem himself for how Lesnar smothered him and to sub the guy again and make him look like a one-note fighter. The fight may not necessarily go that way, but I’m guessing that’s Mir’s view. On the other side of the coin, Mir gets to cement his return to the heavyweight elite after his horrific crash by beating one of the most celebrated fighters the UFC has ever had.
Just my two cents.
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Sorry, that should have read “Mir remained relatively calm whilst getting wailed on by Lesnar, but before he pulled out that knee bar he was perilously close to losing the fight.”
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They tried to get the Nog-Randy fight together. It didn’t work out. I don’t see how anyone can say that Mir or Nog are being disrespected. They have their fight already lined out. The winner of this fight gets the winner of Nog and Mir for the undisputed title.
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honestly who cares about Werdum. Arlokski beat him before leaving. I have never been impressed with him so even if he would beat nog or mir you can’t tell me he matters that much to mma. if couture beats lesnar and nog beats mir and then couture beats nog the fight with fedor would only be bigger. if couture loses to brock that is big for mma. if he wins and loses to nog that legitamizes him, same thing for mir who from that perspective would have beat lesnar, nog, and then couture to get there. who is werdum beating to compare against fighting lesnar, nog and couture in a row? or fighting sylvia, mir, and couture/lesnar in a row as nog would do? I mean, do you even think Werdum beats randy? I’d say its 57-43 he loses to randy anyways. so like i was saying, who cares about werdum.
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I stopped reading this article when I noticed that the writer doesn’t know the difference between the word “then” and the word “than,” although he is right, this fight is about nothing but money. Forget Nog, forget Mir, let’s have the big draw fight the “champ” even though he has no experience.
I had hoped that MMA would work its way toward being a legitimate sport, but now I see it’s going to be something more like WWE, which, considering this circumstance, is appropriate. UFC is not a sport, it’s a soap opera with athletes, just like WWE, and Dana is Vince McMahon. And so I hope all you UFC apologists out there that want to see it dominate this so-called “sport” and eliminate all other competing organizations like Pride and Affliction are happy now, because this is what you got for your money. A big fake nothing, not a sport, just WWE with real violence. And who better to have as the champ? Lesnar may not have much MMA experience, but he knows about acting and hyping up fights, and how to be a big fake, so he’s perfect.
And shame on you Randy.
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OK. First of all. for those of you that say brock doesnt deserve the title YET. ur right. but lets all be honest, alls dana white is doing is fast forwarding the future by giving brock a title shot. and even if and when he wins he still has to fight either mir or nog to cement his hype. And of course its all about the money. i mean honestly what would make more money brock vs couture of couture vs mir which still might happen. but thats extremely slim.
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Hell, UFC has won their fight with Randy, that’s for sure. It’s too bad that Randy is forced to fight, instead of going at it with high fighting spirits. Imho, UFC simply put its money on Brock and wants to use him to strip Couture of his belt and pedigrees before throwing him out of the game. This is their lowly way of playing Randy down before his match with Fedor. I feel sorry for Randy, I really do
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Cliff, your post doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
I couldn’t find any instance of Adam “not knowing the difference between then and than” but even if I overlooked it, it’s called a freaking typo, you jackass.
And your declaration that the UFC is WWE with real violence couldn’t be more off. That sounds like the whining of a butthurt MMA “purist” who can’t possibly stand that someone who was a pro wrestler for less than two years but was an amateur wrestler for eight might actually be a UFC champion by mid-2009.
And who else but Brock to put in this four-man “tournament”? Werdum? With a 2-1 UFC record as opposed to Brock’s 1-1, Werdum doesn’t make hardly any sense financially or otherwise.
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WAR
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Kimbo in the Elite XC is the exact same thing as Brock Lesnar in the UFC
If your a MMA promoter which do you prefer: your you-tube cash cow or your WWE cash cow??
A Kimbo-Lesnar fight promoted by the UFC would do even bigger numbers than Lesnar vs. Couture. The casual fans/ mainstream media would just eat that fight up.
Also, Mir is the Ultimate Freaking Company (UFC) guy he has no right to feel disrespected by the UFC. He beat a guy who was 1-0 and got a reality show gig and eventual title shot handed to him.
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This fight give me an MMA-rection and that’s all I have to say about that.
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I want to see Fedor fight Randy.
I dont care about the UFC vs the world politics, that is their business problem, not a fan problem. As a fan I want to see that fight.
I am excited that Randy will be fighting though. As smart a fighter Randy is, I think Lesnar is going to kill him.
I dont think there is any question Mir will be losing to Big Nog. I already bet $3,000,0000 on it.
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how can u say that ufc is like wwe. of course theres hype. so the nfl is too because espn hype up games and the super bowl is wrestle mania. no ur wrong. and of course its all about money. it is in every other sport 2. and it takes skill and hard work to be a part of the ufc im sure. the wwe is bs and evry1 knows it. any1 could be apart of that crap. and by posting what u did u let us all know that u watch wwe u fagot
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Randy is goin to kill Brock Lesnar and than he’ll have to face Frank Mir. I’m more excited for that fight and idk Who whould win that one.
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randy beat Silva because he is a great wrestler. Lesnar was a national champ and has 60 lbs on the old man. Its going to get ugly for Randy, I do give him props for having the balls to even get int he ring with that guy. Oh and by the way Mir is a bitch and would get pummled in a rematch.
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Sergio, well, first of all, Sergio is about the wussiest name I’ve ever heard, so I’d say you know a lot more about butt hurts than me.
And about “then” and “than,” if you actually paid any attention to what people write instead of only scanning their posts while thinking up your oh-so-scathing responses to what other people have to say, THEN you’d notice that about 70 percent of people who post on messages boards, etc, don’t know the difference between those words either. Those are also the same people who say “could of” instead of “could’ve.” Or “conversate.” Excuse me if I can’t stand by and watch the decline in education and intelligence – of which you are obviously a big part, seeing as how you can only resort to ad hominem attacks on folks instead of making a real point.
And your thoughts that it was a typo? How about doing a little editing, proofreading, before you post an article???
And yes, Werdum is far more deserving than Lesnar. And my beef against Lesnar has to do with him being a class A peckerwood, just like you and that aceyeager, not just because he’s a snoozefest, boring fake-ass wrestler. Heh heh, ace yeager, more like ass yeager. As if I’d watch wrestling. I’d rather be forced to do your mom, whose fault it is that you can’t write either “ace”.
aceyeager and sergio, two typical keyboard punching douche-nozzles. Thanks you two, for reminding me the world is full of rapidly reproducing stupid assholes.
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I think lesnar would beat fedor
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to all the people who said this is bullsh!t i have one message for you “SHUT THE F*CK UP” i bet you, if you owned an organization like the ufc you’ll do the same thing because you know you will make (millions) money in this match. stop crying this is a very smart move by ufc.
and here’s the catch you’ll loved this one. “as much as you hate this because of your complaints you will watch this one i bet you that”
ask yourself. if youre a businessman which way will you go broke or billion? i assumed you have your answer. just as i thought so shut the f*ck up.
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I FEEL SORRY FOR ALL THE MIR FANS AND NOG FANS AND COUTURE FANS BECAUSE YOUR IDOL FIGHTER JUST DISAGGREE WITH YOU WHY?
FOR THE MIR FANS = FRANK MIR DOES NOT CARE FOR THE BELT HE CARES FOR THE MONEY BELEIVE ME. RIGHT NOW HE IS HAPPY TO SEE THIS BECAUSE HE KNEW BROCK WILL WIN AND WITH HIM HOLDING A WIN AGAINST BROCK HE WILL HAVE A REMATCH IN FUTURE THAT WILL MAKE HIM EARN MORE MONEY THAN A USUAL COMMON UFC FIGHT.
NOG’S FANS = BECAUSE NOG IS THE INTERIM HW CHAMP HE GETS A CHANCE TO FACE BROCK (ASSUMING HE WINS) AND HE KNOWS HE WILL MAKE MONEY MORE THAN HE IMAGINE.
TO COUTURE’S FANS = COUTURE DOES NOT CARE FOR THE BELT HE CARES FOR MONEY AND ACTUALLY NOT ONLY COUTURE ALL FIGHTERS CARES FOR MONEY ALONE.
ASK YOURSELF IF YOU WERE A FIGHTER WHO WOULD YOU PREFER TO BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF YOU. THE BEST FIGHTER THAT WILL MAKE YOU 1 MILLION DOLLARS OR THE POPULAR ROOKIE FIGHTER THAT WILL MAKE YOU 5 MILLION MORE? I ASSUMED YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER JUST AS I THOUGHT. YUOR ANSWER IS SAME AS MIRS ANSWER AS WELL AS NOG AND EVERYBODY ELSE. SO FOR ALL THE DIE HARD FANS OUT THERE I FELT BAD FOR YOU CUZ YOUR IDOL DIS AGREE WITH YOU. YOU WANT YOUR IDOL TO FIGHT FOR FEW DOLLARS. YOUR IDOL DOES NOT WANT THAT YOUR IDOL WANTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
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Cliff, I stopped reading what is probably a completely asinine post devoid of any logic after you… made fun of my name?
Really?
I’m not going to argue with a child. Or a retarded adult with the same brain capacity.
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people have said randy would beat big nog and now that randy is fighting lesnar everyone is singing a different tune its now randy will get killed and big nog would easily beat brock doesn’t make sense randy is more skilled than lesnar he won’t wait for the ground and pound to beat brock if there is a submission opening he is going to take it hewants to stay on the win streak to fight fedor to stay the best not to say randy would beat fedor
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call me crazy but arn’t the champions supposed to make more money than the debut fighters????
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Brock Lesnar is going to dominate.
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I’m Tired of people saying Brock has no experience just because he has only 4 fights in mma. Shall i remid everyone he has been wrestling since he was 5! He was 106 and 5 collegately and the 2000 national champ.
As far as i’m concerned brock lesnar is well n his way to becoming the most feared figher in MMA the on fight he did lose so far to Frank Mir he was dominating until he stood up over mir and left his leg exposed. And for the record arm bars aren’t working against this guy. And as far as standing with te guy good luck. Even if you could get past his treetrunk arms if he ever felt a disadvantage he would just take him down at will and the wouldn’t be getting back up. Joe Rogan said it best ” This guy’s the reason dude’s should cut down to 205″.
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Lesnar is a joke period. He should head back to the WWE and get back on the roids, make no mistake he was definately on them look at him now compared to his WWE days. I hope couture spanks Lesnar like he spanked Tito.
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ok wow so lemme make sense of this….brock lesnar randy couture……talk about one sided….sure u got the fags that say oh hes brock lesnar hes jacked hes so strong and all that bullshit…but its fuckin randy couture….honestly does anyone think that rookie lesnar has a chance…i agree with “randomtext” anyone remember the couture/ortiz fight…titos a strong fuckin dude and he had him pinned that whole fight…he even hit him in the ass multiple times at the end basically saying he spanked him which he did…and you’ve got to remember couture and liddell….anyone remember them fights…u guys know he did win one of them…and liddells fuckin awesome and i dont want to hear them rampage lovin homos commenting on liddell cause hes better even though rampage beat him twice i refuse to say rampage is the better fighter…but back to lesnar and couture… lesnar lost to mir….i admit he had that fight ….however mir did get him into a submission HUGE ROOKIE MISTAKE BY LESNAR HEAR THAT PEOPLE….if he even so much as slips into a couture submission u can just write that as a couture win… and for the believers that couture is washed up and old and all that bs….come on a washed up randy couture would still fuckin destroy this “WWE” wish he was a legend whatever the fuck you want to call lesnar….coutures training is amazing too…i still think he’ll be in amazing shape and dominate this fight no problem
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randy is the best fighter at heavyweight right now…..lesnar has the takedowns and the hammerfists that will rape. randy’s best bet is goin for a submission. lesnar is too strong and big to try to go toe to toe with or try to ground and pound. could go either way. coutourehas the experience and lesnar has the power its goin to be a good one no matter what. i want to see a rematch of mir and lesnar. this time lesnar wont make a stupid mistake
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Randy Couture is still da man even tho he lost i still think he the best. at that age and still fight like that he is really good. i wish you luck randy what ever you plan to do next. good fight bro.
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