Comments on: UFC officially announces the return of Randy Couture at UFC 91 vs. Brock Lesnar http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:02:10 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Andrei jM Arlovski http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-48206 Andrei jM Arlovski Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:38:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-48206 IMO,this card is going to be one of the most explosive card the UFC has made in years.. The only thing wrong with this picture is... "Lesnar's going for the title after winning just one fight!" Dana White is obviously putting all the stops against Affliction:Day Of Recokoning PPV by pitting the most hyped UFC/former WWe Superstar against Captain America/The Natural Randy Couture. But make no mistake,UFC 91 will be explosive. Randy will be tested here,just like his match with Napao Gonzaga,in terms of cardio,technicality,and strength. Don't forget that Lesnar just man-handled heavyweight contender Heath Herring and almost defeated Frank Mir on his debut. The guy has the fists of a bear and the strength of a gorilla. Never the less,Randy still has the edge experience-wise and his greco-roman wrestling is one of the best. The only question about this fight is: Who wants it the most? My guess: 60% Couture - 40% Lesnar 60% Stevenson - 40% K-Flo *Andrei Arlovski Rocks IMO,this card is going to be one of the most explosive card the UFC has made in years..

The only thing wrong with this picture is… “Lesnar’s going for the title after winning just one fight!”

Dana White is obviously putting all the stops against Affliction:Day Of Recokoning PPV by pitting the most hyped UFC/former WWe Superstar against Captain America/The Natural Randy Couture. But make no mistake,UFC 91 will be explosive. Randy will be tested here,just like his match with Napao Gonzaga,in terms of cardio,technicality,and strength. Don’t forget that Lesnar just man-handled heavyweight contender Heath Herring and almost defeated Frank Mir on his debut. The guy has the fists of a bear and the strength of a gorilla. Never the less,Randy still has the edge experience-wise and his greco-roman wrestling is one of the best. The only question about this fight is: Who wants it the most?

My guess:
60% Couture – 40% Lesnar
60% Stevenson – 40% K-Flo

*Andrei Arlovski Rocks

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]]> By: luke http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47915 luke Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:25:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47915 Couple things wrong here. First of all, Randy comes back and is still champion after a year of being gone and after an interim champ has already been named. Second of all, mir and noguiera are supposed to fight for the title because noguiera is the champ right now and mir is top contender right now which is why they were gonna fight at the end of TUF. It is complete bull to rob noguiera of that. Thirdly, why the hell does brock lesnar deserve a title shot after two fights into the UFC, granted one was against a top contender in Herring, but come on who has won a total of two pro mma fights. Since randy is back i think they shouldve had mir and noguiera still fight in the TUF finale but the winner of that will get a shot to fight randy for the undisputed HW title, not just give a one win fighter a title shot. The only reason i believe that they did this for lesnar is to A. sell seats (which it will, but come on randy could fight anyone and sell seats) and B. Try to save the weak HW class....its all BS but welcome back randy couture Couple things wrong here.
First of all, Randy comes back and is still champion after a year of being gone and after an interim champ has already been named. Second of all, mir and noguiera are supposed to fight for the title because noguiera is the champ right now and mir is top contender right now which is why they were gonna fight at the end of TUF. It is complete bull to rob noguiera of that. Thirdly, why the hell does brock lesnar deserve a title shot after two fights into the UFC, granted one was against a top contender in Herring, but come on who has won a total of two pro mma fights. Since randy is back i think they shouldve had mir and noguiera still fight in the TUF finale but the winner of that will get a shot to fight randy for the undisputed HW title, not just give a one win fighter a title shot. The only reason i believe that they did this for lesnar is to A. sell seats (which it will, but come on randy could fight anyone and sell seats) and B. Try to save the weak HW class….its all BS

but welcome back randy couture

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]]> By: nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47710 nate Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:44:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47710 Nejia, I think you have the mma math correct. I still want to see Fedor vs Randy though. That would kill the mma math problem. I dont care about the UFC vs Affliction vs etc politics, that is a business problem, not a fan problem. As a fan I want to see certain fights. What is with all the UFC/Affliction/etc. hatred. Every fan should want as much competition as possible, that means the most exposure, etc. Sure the matchups dont always work today, but if the organizations stayed long term they would make it happen. I am excited that Randy will be fighting finally. Randy is smart and talented, but I think Lesnar is going to kill him. Nejia, I think you have the mma math correct.

I still want to see Fedor vs Randy though. That would kill the mma math problem.

I dont care about the UFC vs Affliction vs etc politics, that is a business problem, not a fan problem. As a fan I want to see certain fights. What is with all the UFC/Affliction/etc. hatred. Every fan should want as much competition as possible, that means the most exposure, etc. Sure the matchups dont always work today, but if the organizations stayed long term they would make it happen.

I am excited that Randy will be fighting finally. Randy is smart and talented, but I think Lesnar is going to kill him.

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]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47624 neijia Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:55:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47624 Unfortunately there is little chance Couture can beat Lesnar. They have the exact same strengths (wrestling) but Randy is frigging 45 and giving up a lot of size and strength. The usual suspects who are smaller and weaker who can beat a monster wrestler are submission specalists. Lesnar will unfortunately beat Couture quickly, then Nog will beat Mir, face Lesnar, get beat on, and pull out another submission. After that, we ALREADY KNOW Fedor is better than Nog. Mma math, sure, but that all seems so obvious. Still, the bottom line - yeah, good business move, sure. Promotions need to make money, plain and simple. Unfortunately there is little chance Couture can beat Lesnar. They have the exact same strengths (wrestling) but Randy is frigging 45 and giving up a lot of size and strength. The usual suspects who are smaller and weaker who can beat a monster wrestler are submission specalists. Lesnar will unfortunately beat Couture quickly, then Nog will beat Mir, face Lesnar, get beat on, and pull out another submission. After that, we ALREADY KNOW Fedor is better than Nog. Mma math, sure, but that all seems so obvious. Still, the bottom line – yeah, good business move, sure. Promotions need to make money, plain and simple.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47606 darkmetal Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:35:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47606 The Somberlain, I think Lesnar was simply stating that Fedor is not fighting Couture (yet) he is. It would be similar to someone coming up to you and saying "Wow, wouldn't your girlfriend look good if she was on Brad Pitt's arm?" I suspect your response would be, "Screw you, she's MY Girlfriend!" By your way of thinking, you would be willing to discuss such an argument, ie: "Yeah, I guess if Brad Pitt ever comes along, she could date him, and might actually and probably dump me, after all, he is better looking, rich, ect ect." And we know this wouldn't happen, no offense. Lesnar is simply talking about the here and now, and Fedor is simply an afterthought or dream at this point. Why even talk about it until Fedor signs a contract? The Somberlain, I think Lesnar was simply stating that Fedor is not fighting Couture (yet) he is. It would be similar to someone coming up to you and saying “Wow, wouldn’t your girlfriend look good if she was on Brad Pitt’s arm?” I suspect your response would be, “Screw you, she’s MY Girlfriend!”

By your way of thinking, you would be willing to discuss such an argument, ie: “Yeah, I guess if Brad Pitt ever comes along, she could date him, and might actually and probably dump me, after all, he is better looking, rich, ect ect.” And we know this wouldn’t happen, no offense.

Lesnar is simply talking about the here and now, and Fedor is simply an afterthought or dream at this point. Why even talk about it until Fedor signs a contract?

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]]> By: Dr.Stoppage http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47600 Dr.Stoppage Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:39:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47600 So does this mean Kim and Randy broke up? So does this mean Kim and Randy broke up?

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]]> By: TheSomberlain http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47594 TheSomberlain Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:03:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47594 I cant believe Lesnar had the balls to say "Who gives a shit about Fedor?". I thought that fiasco at the end of the Herring fight was adrenaline and joy but it turns out this guy is just a stereo typical wrestler asshole (Matt Hughes anyone?). Fedor would turn his face into pulp, Guaranteed. Anyways, I hope Randy comes out on top that way he can have pull in trying to bring Fedor over but thats probably not likely because of the UFC contracts. I cant believe Lesnar had the balls to say “Who gives a shit about Fedor?”. I thought that fiasco at the end of the Herring fight was adrenaline and joy but it turns out this guy is just a stereo typical wrestler asshole (Matt Hughes anyone?). Fedor would turn his face into pulp, Guaranteed. Anyways, I hope Randy comes out on top that way he can have pull in trying to bring Fedor over but thats probably not likely because of the UFC contracts.

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]]> By: Powers http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47579 Powers Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:31:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47579 And with this, affliction gets pushed by the wayside. And with this, affliction gets pushed by the wayside.

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47558 Jackyl Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:48:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47558 A lot of you are losing sight of the real picture here. The UFC is a business and part of that business is to put on fights that will do well. Like it or not this is a sellable fight. All of you that are talking shit about this fight will be right there with the rest of us watching it unfold. You really think you would be all that excited for a fight with Randy and Werdum? Of course not. Another thing is people are going to be intrigued by the matchup. How is Randy going to handle an opponent of this size and quickness? True, Lesnar is 2-1 and most fighters with that record would not be at the top of the card. But let's face reality. He was dominating Mir before the bullshit stand up call by Mazzagatti. And if you think he layed on top of Herring.... you need to take a look at the post fight pics of Herring's face. Lesnar is not getting these fights just because of his name. He is a huge guy. He runs a 40 in less than 6 seconds. You know his amateur accolades. What more do you want? He is the shot in the arm the UFC HW division needed. Now we have a huge fight that sets up a match for an undisputed championship. Have any of you heard the phrase: "Some people will bitch at a stop sign."? A lot of you are losing sight of the real picture here. The UFC is a business and part of that business is to put on fights that will do well. Like it or not this is a sellable fight. All of you that are talking shit about this fight will be right there with the rest of us watching it unfold. You really think you would be all that excited for a fight with Randy and Werdum? Of course not. Another thing is people are going to be intrigued by the matchup. How is Randy going to handle an opponent of this size and quickness? True, Lesnar is 2-1 and most fighters with that record would not be at the top of the card. But let’s face reality. He was dominating Mir before the bullshit stand up call by Mazzagatti. And if you think he layed on top of Herring…. you need to take a look at the post fight pics of Herring’s face. Lesnar is not getting these fights just because of his name. He is a huge guy. He runs a 40 in less than 6 seconds. You know his amateur accolades. What more do you want? He is the shot in the arm the UFC HW division needed. Now we have a huge fight that sets up a match for an undisputed championship.
Have any of you heard the phrase: “Some people will bitch at a stop sign.”?

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]]> By: Michaelthebox http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/02/ufc-officially-announces-the-return-of-randy-couture-vs-brock-lesnar-at-ufc-91/comment-page-1/#comment-47553 Michaelthebox Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:06:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6021#comment-47553 Simon, Antonio Silva was the "big name" they were talking about. All the big-name Affliction fighters were clean. Simon, Antonio Silva was the “big name” they were talking about. All the big-name Affliction fighters were clean.

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