Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain Presents: The DUEL http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 15:31:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48386 joetheacupuncturist Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:34:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48386 ok john, fights over and as i predicted chuck got his ass thumped.i think u owe me my props ok john, fights over and as i predicted chuck got his ass thumped.i think u owe me my props

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48188 darkmetal Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:14:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48188 If I were advising Lesnar, I would tell him to work on getting full mount, and then using his massive upper body strength to destroy Couture. Of course there is a possibility of a reversal from mount, but I think what would be an ideal strategy for lesnar is, rather than a rear naked choke, to work on some sort of a neck crank choke. His power could put out quite a few opponents in that position, and he doesn't need an ideal arm position to twist someone's head until the blood is cut off. Now if I was advising Couture, which I would doubt would even be necessary, I would be hard pressed to work on rotating out of the way, kicking for the lower body, and repeating. If he could score enough kicks, he would rack up points, and also slow down Lesnar's charge. However, even slowed, Lesnar will be a faster heavyweight than any Randy has ever fought, so it might still not work. But, if he can get Lesnar a bit wobbly, he might have a chance to dirty box him. But with the size of Lesnar's head, I suspect he will not be able to KO him. In the end, I think it will be a situation of Lesnar grabbing Couture, who will fight to control him, and he will slam him to the ground. Further, I really think Couture's attempt to keep the fight standing might end in a full slam and KO of Randy....watch for it. If I were advising Lesnar, I would tell him to work on getting full mount, and then using his massive upper body strength to destroy Couture. Of course there is a possibility of a reversal from mount, but I think what would be an ideal strategy for lesnar is, rather than a rear naked choke, to work on some sort of a neck crank choke. His power could put out quite a few opponents in that position, and he doesn’t need an ideal arm position to twist someone’s head until the blood is cut off.

Now if I was advising Couture, which I would doubt would even be necessary, I would be hard pressed to work on rotating out of the way, kicking for the lower body, and repeating. If he could score enough kicks, he would rack up points, and also slow down Lesnar’s charge. However, even slowed, Lesnar will be a faster heavyweight than any Randy has ever fought, so it might still not work. But, if he can get Lesnar a bit wobbly, he might have a chance to dirty box him. But with the size of Lesnar’s head, I suspect he will not be able to KO him.

In the end, I think it will be a situation of Lesnar grabbing Couture, who will fight to control him, and he will slam him to the ground. Further, I really think Couture’s attempt to keep the fight standing might end in a full slam and KO of Randy….watch for it.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48142 HexRei Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:54:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48142 I think you guys should let me in on one of these duels. I'll become the Brock Lesnar of sports journalism, seemingly unqualified but brutally good at it! I think you guys should let me in on one of these duels. I’ll become the Brock Lesnar of sports journalism, seemingly unqualified but brutally good at it!

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48129 Rich S. Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:51:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48129 good duel. good duel.

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]]> By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48113 joetheacupuncturist Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:09:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48113 sucks i wanted to see that 1 sucks i wanted to see that 1

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]]> By: JoHn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48112 JoHn Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:08:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48112 OOPS GO TO THE HOME PAGE KARO HAS PULLED OUT DUE TO BACK INJURY OOPS GO TO THE HOME PAGE KARO HAS PULLED OUT DUE TO BACK INJURY

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]]> By: JoHn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48110 JoHn Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:04:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48110 i agree with ace over hammill, but not so much on marquardt beating kampmann, i pick kamp, and karo, but i think mostly i picked karo because i think he has to win or he will be going away i agree with ace over hammill, but not so much on marquardt beating kampmann, i pick kamp, and karo, but i think mostly i picked karo because i think he has to win or he will be going away

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]]> By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48108 joetheacupuncturist Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:02:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48108 those are my picks Yoshida over Karo, Nate over kamp and Ace over Hammer those are my picks Yoshida over Karo, Nate over kamp and Ace over Hammer

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]]> By: JoHn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48105 JoHn Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:59:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48105 i didnt see your picks on those fights i didnt see your picks on those fights

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]]> By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48104 joetheacupuncturist Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:53:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48104 so sweet, the duel within the duel. so sweet, the duel within the duel.

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]]> By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48103 joetheacupuncturist Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:51:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48103 lol- im still cracking up at my Chuck is at his fat elvis stage of his carear lol- im still cracking up at my Chuck is at his fat elvis stage of his carear

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]]> By: JoHn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48102 JoHn Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:49:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48102 harrison and huckaby eat your heart out, Its the john and Joe show harrison and huckaby eat your heart out, Its the john and Joe show

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]]> By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48101 joetheacupuncturist Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:49:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48101 ok, john. we can shit talk about the fight early sunday morning. but can you argue about my Yoshida, Ace and Nate picks? ok, john. we can shit talk about the fight early sunday morning. but can you argue about my Yoshida, Ace and Nate picks?

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]]> By: JoHn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48100 JoHn Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:46:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48100 i agree with you and ken, i am not saying that randy wont and cant beat Brock, i just think the only chance for him to win is his veteran knowledge and training for a specific fight the way he always does, nobody wanted to see Randy back as much as me,, i just dont like the match up, but thats what makes Randy the superior force that he has been in all these years, he has never picked and chosen his oponents he fights whoever whenever i agree with you and ken, i am not saying that randy wont and cant beat Brock, i just think the only chance for him to win is his veteran knowledge and training for a specific fight the way he always does, nobody wanted to see Randy back as much as me,, i just dont like the match up, but thats what makes Randy the superior force that he has been in all these years, he has never picked and chosen his oponents he fights whoever whenever

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]]> By: JoHn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48097 JoHn Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:42:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48097 of course i can see your point, especially this last year and a half, but to say rashad is going to win is rediculous, rashad has no stylistic credibility to justify him beating chuck, he has shorter reach, he wont be able to take him down, and he isnt as well versed in striking as chuck or even wandy, and wandy couldnt drop chuck of course i can see your point, especially this last year and a half, but to say rashad is going to win is rediculous, rashad has no stylistic credibility to justify him beating chuck, he has shorter reach, he wont be able to take him down, and he isnt as well versed in striking as chuck or even wandy, and wandy couldnt drop chuck

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]]> By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48096 joetheacupuncturist Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:39:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48096 john, look a few lines up too. ken digresses about the Brock-randy fight better than I. john, look a few lines up too. ken digresses about the Brock-randy fight better than I.

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]]> By: joetheacupuncturist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48095 joetheacupuncturist Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:37:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48095 John, I dont think you understand, I like Chuck, I would not be surprised if he wins. he by all means should win. his style is made to beat sugar. I am no Chuck or mma "hater" as you put it. I'm just playing point-counterpoint. I do have the right to say that Chuck's last 3 fights hasnt been all that recently. he is coming off a BAD injury that really messes people up. and he is known to be a little lax when it comes to training. all that said i think he could seriously lose this one and i wouldnt be surprised at all. can u see my point? John, I dont think you understand, I like Chuck, I would not be surprised if he wins. he by all means should win. his style is made to beat sugar. I am no Chuck or mma “hater” as you put it. I’m just playing point-counterpoint. I do have the right to say that Chuck’s last 3 fights hasnt been all that recently. he is coming off a BAD injury that really messes people up. and he is known to be a little lax when it comes to training. all that said i think he could seriously lose this one and i wouldnt be surprised at all. can u see my point?

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]]> By: Michael Huckaby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48094 Michael Huckaby Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:34:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48094 For anyone viewing this in the last 5 minutes my apologies. I tried to edit one link and it added about 800 lines of random HTML throughout the article I had to go through and remove. For anyone viewing this in the last 5 minutes my apologies. I tried to edit one link and it added about 800 lines of random HTML throughout the article I had to go through and remove.

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]]> By: JoHn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48093 JoHn Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:31:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48093 we could go all day on the "six degrees of seperation" mma style, hahaha we could go all day on the “six degrees of seperation” mma style, hahaha

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]]> By: JoHn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/05/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-18/comment-page-1/#comment-48091 JoHn Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:29:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6106#comment-48091 also your logic with jardine and chuck, and rashad beating jardine, the same can be said about chuck beating wandy and wandy beating jardine,NEXT also your logic with jardine and chuck, and rashad beating jardine, the same can be said about chuck beating wandy and wandy beating jardine,NEXT

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