Comments on: The Rashad Evans Bandwagon is filling up fast

By: king mah mah

king mah mah — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:47:29 +0000

Sam, you were absolutely right for calling these people bandwagon fans. If you didn’t like Rashad a week ago, then there is no way one punch should change your mind. Let’s see if he can KO about 5 more people in a row and compete for another decade. Then you might be able to put him in the same league as Liddell. Until then keep your bandwagon mouths shut! Great article Sam, keep it up.

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By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:31:45 +0000

Bocholo,
I can tell you’re new to this site..
these guys aren’t posted up downtown writing these articles out of cubicles in a giant office building..

the mental picture you’ve drawn for how this site is run is a little… off..

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By: Bocholo

Bocholo — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:19:07 +0000

Rich S. let me explain what what a “Written Warning” is for you because you seem to be a little slower then the average person. A “Written Warning” is when a person is working for a company (lets say a corporate company in this case) and they do something that is considered wrong and is looked down upon in a negative way. That person receives a “Written Warning” the first time and if the issue is not corrected he is fired the next time it happens. Do you follow me so far…………good. In this case the article was so STUPID that the writer who posted it (SAM) should get a “Written Warning” from his “Boss”. Now let me explain that again as if i am speaking to a 5 year old because what i just wrote may have confused you AGAIN because i used big words like “Written Warning” and “Boss”.

Sam’s “Boss” (the person Sam reports to at work) should be mad about how dumb the article was and tell Sam to put more thought behind his work and less bullshit.

I really hope that clears things up for you because if it doesn’t then i think it would be best if you just did us all a favor and stepped in front of a moving bus.

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By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:25:52 +0000

Bocholo,
what the hell IS a written warning??
and who’s this “boss” you’re talking about??
sounds like you’re the dumbass to me..

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By: Mike Wolfe

Mike Wolfe — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:58:59 +0000

Impress your “bandwagon” friends and acquaintances with the following quote from Tacitus: “Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan.” Who says an MMA fan can’t be well read and urbane?

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By: Vee

Vee — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:53:10 +0000

7 Reason Why Rashad Evans is a Top LHW
http://scritchandscratch.com/blog/?p=653

Not.

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By: Bocholo

Bocholo — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:56:50 +0000

Sam……..seriously………….you are an idiot and you should get a written warning by your boss for this ridiculous article. Take a look at about two entries up where i asked you to explain what a band wagon fan is. Again i ask you, do i have to grew up wiht the fighter and be his best friend? or perhaps maybe at least from the same town?? Rashad fought aweful fighters (i include tito ortiz in that group as well) so who is going to give a shit about the guy. He showed potential by knocking out a overweight fat wrestler with a leg kick and beating on Ortiz for 15 minutes. No one will like a fighter until he gives the fans a reason to like him and Rashad finally did. also i have been a fan of BJ Penn and GSP for years now but according to your dumb ass i bet i am a bang wagon fan with them too right!!! I am telling you your ass should get a written warning for coming up with this retarted article. I have written better bullshit in my 10page papers for college in under an hour.

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By: screwface

screwface — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:27:57 +0000

sam i dont respond to your “stir the pot” posts anymore, theyve become too common, and i know they are a useful tool to drum up more site hits, but when u argue that evans is good 30-40 times on same site with same haters hating back eventually u get tired of beating a dead horse, actions speak louder than words, and rashads actions have as usual put a foot in the mouth of all the so called experts. yours truly, rashads most loyal fan since day 1

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By: Rob

Rob — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:46:26 +0000

Yeah your cool because you liked Rashad Evans first. lol. Man, talk about gloating.. ok ok, you were right and everyone else was wrong! cracks me up. I bet you liked Nirvana before everyone else too. who cares if people like him now? He’s a good fighter. I picked him to win, but didn’t comment, because I don’t see a reason to comment on articles. But had to here, because you sound like an idiot. You better pick another underdog so you can gloat about it in a future article. :p

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By: Bocholo

Bocholo — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:58:05 +0000

I don’t think ANYONE that likes Evans now after the Liddell fight is a bandwagon fan. Evans is now showing us how exciting of a fighter he can be. He was on the Ultimate Fighter as a Heavyweight which is the most boring division that they could possibly put on the show. I am not saying it’s a boring division in the UFC or Affliction, but on the show it’s painful to watch. Since the show he has fought no name guys besides Tito Ortiz and lets face it Tito is not the fighter he was before. Finally Rashad faces someone that people have a liking for and knocks him out cold. OF COURSE people are going to start liking the man!!!!!! That is how we became a fan of Rampage and Anderson Silva when they first came to the UFC. Are you going to tell me we as fans have to come from the same town (your reference to RedSox Nation) or grow up with the person to not be considered a bang wagon fan. When a person catches our eye and proves that they are a fighter worth watching for the fun and excitement that MMA offers how is that a bangwagon fan. So why don’t you do all of us a favor and supply us with the guidelines that we need to fall under to be a fan of a fighter and not be considered a bandwagon fan. Because for me a bangwagon fan is a person that stops supporting and/or liking a fighter after a tough loss. That is a fan that is as you say a Bang Wagon fan because they decide to jump off when the going gets tough. Dont’ get mad at the world becuase we are now FANS of the guy that knocked what seems to be your HERO out.

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By: ihateemo

ihateemo — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:46:21 +0000

Sam,

I don’t see an issue with people suddenly supporting Evans, let alone tarring them as “bandwagon jumpers”. Is it really unreasonable for people to feel comfortable vocally supporting Evans – a fighter I also believe(d?) to have a slightly boring style and to have been fortunate with his roster of opponents – after watching his spectacular knockout of one of the UFC’s most elite fighters?

I don’t really count myself an Evans fan still, since something about the guy still bugs me. But at the same time isn’t going out there and KOing opponents how fighters build a legitimate fanbase?

I guess the real tell-tale sign is how the fans feel about Evans if and when he loses in the future. Until then I feel your tone was a little insulting to the fans that Evans has converted.

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By: ViciousUppercut

ViciousUppercut — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:07:50 +0000

Wow some of these armchair fighters are acting like they knocked Liddell out. And boy are they full of themselves with their so called predictions, and saying things like “i’ve always loved Rashad ever since i first saw him on TUF” and “You were wrong Sam, you were wrong, and i was right, I was right. I told you Rashad was gonna win. I told you”. Yeah right. Man all Sam did was pick Liddell to win. Sam gave his opinion, and he was wrong, big deal. It happens. You can’t be right all of the time. And now, you have some dumbass saying that you dehumanized Rashad. Dehumanized? Wow man, get a life. Keep up the good work Sam, at least some of us are smart enough to realize your opinion is just that, an opinion, on an excellent website i might add

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By: THORAZINE

THORAZINE — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:56:03 +0000

Ya’ know when I saw Rashad win TUF and knew he was dropping to 205 lbs I said to a lot of my friends, that guy will be a champion one day, I was really impressed with his ability and willingness to mix standup and wrestling at opportune times. Then he fought Tito I thought he looked too small to be a 205 lbr and was wondering where that size and strength went? Rashad then barely beat Bisping. I admit I changed my tune, with all the hype about Chuck and Chuck has easily dismantled Ortiz and whupped Wanderlei, I thought Rashad chances were slim.

However! (lol) when I saw Rashad at weigh-ins and in the ring, he looked like he maintained his size much better than he has in the past, I thought he might be able to pull a win out. However! (lol) after round 1 I thought Rashad was just too tenative to win the fight. Now I realize it was part of a very well thoughtout game plan executed to the ‘T’. WOW… I always felt Rashad knew how to win, but I didn’t feel confident he could pull it off with the likes of Chuck Liddell.

I’ve always been on the Rashad bandwagon but I certainly didn’t feel confident that he could beat Chuck based on past performances. The guy keeps improving and I’m back with thinking he could be a Champion one day. I think Forrest is one of the worst kinds of fighter for Rashad to face though, because Forrest is really busy without risking much and will out point a tentative Rashad.

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By: Damo

Damo — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:18:24 +0000

I still can’t stand the guy.

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By: JollyDV

JollyDV — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:34:09 +0000

The bandwagon may have grown so fast because we humans are a lot like moths. When they see bright lights they fly directly for it. Deservedly Rashad is a bright light now, hence the fans are quickly heading toward the bright light. I have always like Rashad and I am sure he had a solid fan base prior to his fight with Chuck. They were there before the light was turned on with mega wattage and those are the fans that will stay long after the bulb has burned out.

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By: Grappo

Grappo — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:40:23 +0000

Thought it could’ve gone either way, but I favored Evans because Liddell hasn’t been very consistent as of late, plus I often go for the underdog when it’s between 2 fighters that I don’t really care for. I was rooting for Rashad up until he entered the cage and tweaked his nipples. Then I wanted Chuck to knock his head off. That said, when Rashad KO’ed Chuck, he knocked off all the B.S. showboating and showed himself to be respectful and restrained (which is not what Chuck would have done) so he redeemed himself a bit.

Machida pwns.

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By: matt

matt — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:42:37 +0000

Sam, I grew up in Jersey as a Cowboys/Red Sox Fan. I’m originally from Texas and my dad was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan, when they moved he kept his Yankees hate and switched to BoSox. So I resent this entire article!

You could make a case for Rampage as the #1 contender after the close decision but you don’t want to risk a champ going to prison. Bad business there. Machida/Forrest, the marketing would focus strictly on Forrest selling this fight. Wand beat Jardine…that doesn’t scream #1 contender (plus he and forrest train together). Hendo is staying at MW. Soko has 1 win. Shogon is 0-1. Jardine just got murdered by Wand. Chuck was KD. Thiago hasn’t had a solid career making win, and people forget that Irvin blew out his knee mid fight, so that’s a freebie right there. So in reality, Rashad is the best choice.

He’s got the skill to win and I guess now the Knock Out power. And has headlined two PPVs (one was a completely weak card and still had 400k buys) with him an Bisping. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rashad/Forrest does atleast 500k in PPV buys (what else is gonna sell that? MIR/NOG? REALLY?) So the bandwagon is legit.

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By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:12:56 +0000

“2-2 for his last 2 fights”

4 fights..

sure wouldn’t mind an edit feature right about now

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By: Rich S.

Rich S. — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:04:16 +0000

for the people who think so strongly that Rashad isn’t deserving of a title shot.. think of it this way..

if Chuck would’ve won, he would’ve been on his way to title..
so Rashad beat Chuck, and he’s “in NO WAY deserving of a shot”?
that doesn’t make too much sense..
let’s say Chuck did win, he’d be having a title fight, with a record of 2-2 for his last 2 fights.. that sounds kind of ridiculous..
Rashad on the other hand, has never lost.. anywhere.. to anyone..

and as far as I’m concerned, If Chuck Li-freakin’-ddell is on your resume’ of wins.. you’re definitely close to a title shot..

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By: zach

zach — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:36:31 +0000

I understand your rationale Sam. Everyone likes to see a brawl and some fighters are mentally pre-disposed to brawling. However, these Rashad does have potential and he finds a way to win.

I believe what was lacking in his game was the mental edge and confidence. I am sure the win over Liddell will do wonders for his confidence and at 28 he still has so much to learn and incorporate into his fighting style. One thing you can’t deny is that Rashad certainly has phenomenal KO power and that has the making of exactly the type of fighter you like.

If he can flow from stand up to take downs and improve his BJJ and actually GNP people when he is on top I see him giving problems to all the fighters you mention.

However, I agree that we should see what happens and let Rashad earn his accolades…

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