Comments on: Affliction could move forward with Golden Boy, HBO, and Fedor http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 17:18:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: alkatraz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49397 alkatraz Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:28:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49397 I am not so sure if this is true its actually a bad thing.i believe it has great potential if done right.many boxing fans refuse to give mma a chance and its it opens those doors for great boxing events for those fans to see what a great sport mma truly is.and the hardcore mma fans are going to watch this anyway.because we can't get enough.even most of u negative folks that saturate these blogs.it amases me how so many of u on here wish bad on these other orgs.anyway the potential is great for affliction to create their own fan base this way and not need the ufc nut huggers that claim to be mma fans. I am not so sure if this is true its actually a bad thing.i believe it has great potential if done right.many boxing fans refuse to give mma a chance and its it opens those doors for great boxing events for those fans to see what a great sport mma truly is.and the hardcore mma fans are going to watch this anyway.because we can’t get enough.even most of u negative folks that saturate these blogs.it amases me how so many of u on here wish bad on these other orgs.anyway the potential is great for affliction to create their own fan base this way and not need the ufc nut huggers that claim to be mma fans.

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]]> By: MMAuthority http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49241 MMAuthority Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:01:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49241 Affliction is down for the count.. They showed their cards and now their exposed. If they could not sell a card without Fedor, then their set in stone to fail. Everyone keeps saying they're stacked with talent.. I just dont see it that way. Who outside of their HW division dothey have ??? They lost the Randy fight. And the only other HW's outside of Fedor they have were al cast off's from UFC. UFc would not have let them go, if they were pulling the numbers, believe that.. And to be sadly honest.. Brock Lesnar is the biggest HW fighter in terms of popularity there is right now.. and He is resting comfortably in the "UFC".. How many other promotions get face time on ESPN outside of the Kimbo debut on CBS that failed miserably ?? ESPN has been pumping the forthcoming Lesnar vs. Couture bout and regardless of whether Fedor comes to the UFC or not, it will never ever hurt them or their business.. Everyone that Fedor goes to ends up in the dumps.. coincidence ?? I think not.. His asking price comes with a hefty tow.. Pride, Bodog, M-1, & now Affliction on the decline.. ?? was it worth it ?? From my business degree.. I would say no.. I'd pass Affliction is down for the count.. They showed their cards and now their exposed. If they could not sell a card without Fedor, then their set in stone to fail. Everyone keeps saying they’re stacked with talent.. I just dont see it that way. Who outside of their HW division dothey have ???

They lost the Randy fight. And the only other HW’s outside of Fedor they have were al cast off’s from UFC. UFc would not have let them go, if they were pulling the numbers, believe that.. And to be sadly honest.. Brock Lesnar is the biggest HW fighter in terms of popularity there is right now.. and He is resting comfortably in the “UFC”.. How many other promotions get face time on ESPN outside of the Kimbo debut on CBS that failed miserably ??

ESPN has been pumping the forthcoming Lesnar vs. Couture bout and regardless of whether Fedor comes to the UFC or not, it will never ever hurt them or their business.. Everyone that Fedor goes to ends up in the dumps.. coincidence ?? I think not.. His asking price comes with a hefty tow.. Pride, Bodog, M-1, & now Affliction on the decline.. ?? was it worth it ??

From my business degree.. I would say no.. I’d pass

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]]> By: Kelvin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49223 Kelvin Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:49:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49223 I don't believe anything Atencio says. I don’t believe anything Atencio says.

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]]> By: ultmma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49221 ultmma Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:31:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49221 I hope all other MMA promotions go under other than the UFC A one league monopoly would be great for the fighters and fans No competition breeds sucess I loved the last MMA month with only 2 UFC cards for me to view all month long sarcasm 4 ultmma 0 I hope all other MMA promotions go under other than the UFC

A one league monopoly would be great for the fighters and fans

No competition breeds sucess

I loved the last MMA month with only 2 UFC cards for me to view all month long

sarcasm 4

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]]> By: warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49218 warcry Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:59:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49218 I don't like the idea of boxing elements getting involved with MMA. Major elements that is. This reeks of desperation. I don't know what is so dynamic about this potential partnership. Is Oscar Dela Hoya gonna put on the ole 5oz bring some pain himself? That would be dynamic I don’t like the idea of boxing elements getting involved with MMA. Major elements that is. This reeks of desperation. I don’t know what is so dynamic about this potential partnership. Is Oscar Dela Hoya gonna put on the ole 5oz bring some pain himself? That would be dynamic

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]]> By: Imbecile http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49204 Imbecile Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:52:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49204 MMAJunkie is reporting that Affliction is saying this will be on Pay Per View. Unless it is on HBO PPV, I doubt HBO will be in the picture. That annoying guy from MMA Rated is also saying HBO will not be a part of this deal. Good to hear that De la Hoya may be getting involved, but I really don't see how this "changes the dynamics of mixed martial arts." I toy deal sounds bigger, to me. MMAJunkie is reporting that Affliction is saying this will be on Pay Per View. Unless it is on HBO PPV, I doubt HBO will be in the picture. That annoying guy from MMA Rated is also saying HBO will not be a part of this deal.

Good to hear that De la Hoya may be getting involved, but I really don’t see how this “changes the dynamics of mixed martial arts.” I toy deal sounds bigger, to me.

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]]> By: el boxeo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49196 el boxeo Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:12:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49196 whoever is saying that Golden Boy Promotions IS NOT RUINING BOXING is sadly mistaken... http://www.secondsout.com/Columns/index.cfm?ccs=208&cs=27341 http://www.secondsout.com/Columns/index.cfm?ccs=208&cs=24779 but gbp and affliction teaming up would pretty much put affliction on HBO ....and if GBP actually really takes a real interest in making money on MMA theyll be a worthy adversary to ufc... hell oscar might just keep fighting so that they can cross promote MMA off his high rated fights... whoever is saying that Golden Boy Promotions IS NOT RUINING BOXING is sadly mistaken…

http://www.secondsout.com/Columns/index.cfm?ccs=208&cs=27341

http://www.secondsout.com/Columns/index.cfm?ccs=208&cs=24779

but gbp and affliction teaming up would pretty much put affliction on HBO ….and if GBP actually really takes a real interest in making money on MMA theyll be a worthy adversary to ufc… hell oscar might just keep fighting so that they can cross promote MMA off his high rated fights…

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49195 Cathedron Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:02:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49195 HBO said they aren't talking with any MMA orgs right now and it's also been confirmed from Affliction that there will be no announcement during the boxing event. So, no HBO and the GBP thing looks really shaky. I don't think anything they have planned will save them at this point what with the UFC putting on their biggest shows yet in the following months. If CBS can't save EliteXC, I don't see what chance Affliction has. They don't have any major names that would generate casual interest. Even if they got Tito Ortiz, I don't think that'd be enough. HBO said they aren’t talking with any MMA orgs right now and it’s also been confirmed from Affliction that there will be no announcement during the boxing event. So, no HBO and the GBP thing looks really shaky. I don’t think anything they have planned will save them at this point what with the UFC putting on their biggest shows yet in the following months. If CBS can’t save EliteXC, I don’t see what chance Affliction has. They don’t have any major names that would generate casual interest. Even if they got Tito Ortiz, I don’t think that’d be enough.

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49178 Evan Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:24:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49178 Iraqi information minister Iraqi information minister

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]]> By: Bad Monkey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49171 Bad Monkey Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:55:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49171 This sounds a little too much like damage control from Affliction, just trying to convince people they're not down for the count. It's all well and good if they can keep it together, but all of this shuffling doesn't bode well for them. This sounds a little too much like damage control from Affliction, just trying to convince people they’re not down for the count. It’s all well and good if they can keep it together, but all of this shuffling doesn’t bode well for them.

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]]> By: rob http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49168 rob Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:38:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49168 Well whoever said that GBP ruined boxing obviously does not watch boxing.....by the way the answeer is the WBC - look it up. GBP could most certainly help Affliction - whether or not it brings them what they want remains to be seen, but DLH - pretty much anything he touches is successful and they have the people in that company to be able to do as much as they can. And woooburn - valid point (about the Jim Lampley msg.)However, I bet that if - IF mma goes to HBO that the powers that be will put the ki-bash on that. - -as much as I love Lamps.... Well whoever said that GBP ruined boxing obviously does not watch boxing…..by the way the answeer is the WBC – look it up. GBP could most certainly help Affliction – whether or not it brings them what they want remains to be seen, but DLH – pretty much anything he touches is successful and they have the people in that company to be able to do as much as they can.

And woooburn – valid point (about the Jim Lampley msg.)However, I bet that if – IF mma goes to HBO that the powers that be will put the ki-bash on that. – -as much as I love Lamps….

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49166 Evan Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:27:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49166 I agree with Bryan. I agree with Bryan.

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]]> By: Davey D http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49165 Davey D Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:24:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49165 I am very interested to see what becomes of this. Affliction will never topple the UFC but they don't need to either. Same goes for EXC. Look at just how long and good Strikeforce has done over the years by staying in California or namely, in San Jose. They can all compete, but taking over isn't going to happen. If Affliction and EXC play their card's right. And there are a lot of them. I think they'll be around a lot longer than most do. However, losing millions and millions of dollar's to get ahead has to stop or else...well sadly, they will fail. I am very interested to see what becomes of this. Affliction will never topple the UFC but they don’t need to either. Same goes for EXC. Look at just how long and good Strikeforce has done over the years by staying in California or namely, in San Jose. They can all compete, but taking over isn’t going to happen.

If Affliction and EXC play their card’s right. And there are a lot of them. I think they’ll be around a lot longer than most do. However, losing millions and millions of dollar’s to get ahead has to stop or else…well sadly, they will fail.

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]]> By: bryan trafford http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49155 bryan trafford Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:32:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49155 golden boy promotions are most certainly NOT the promoters who ruined boxing, a more accurate description would be the promotion that helps keep boxing alive. golden boy promotions are most certainly NOT the promoters who ruined boxing, a more accurate description would be the promotion that helps keep boxing alive.

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]]> By: Batman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49147 Batman Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:46:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49147 I really think affliction will be around for awhile because they have some of the best talent in the world and they are backed by major players. i don't think funding is an issue, I think they need to take their time and everything will be fine. I really think affliction will be around for awhile because they have some of the best talent in the world and they are backed by major players. i don’t think funding is an issue, I think they need to take their time and everything will be fine.

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49143 dpk Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:23:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49143 While Affliction tries to gets it's stuff together, UFC is looking at pulling off 3 monster PPVs in a row (Randy v Lesnar, New Years Show, GSP v BJ (Super Bowl weekend)), and that is not good news for Affliction. Before we see affliction again we are going to see all of the best HWs that UFC has, in Randy v Lesnar, Mir v Nog, and even Werdum, Gonzaga and Carwin have scheduled fights before the next time Affliction shows us anything, and to the outside casual fan, who sees the Ultimate fighting HW and interim HW title fights, it will make WAMMA mean even less to them. Adding to their problems is that one of their big plans, to cash in on Randy v Fedor, isn't an option anymore, and Affliction really starts to look like it has a problem. 2-3 shows a year does not make a promotion, and affliating with Boxing promoters that have helped ruin that sport isn't going to help much. While Affliction tries to gets it’s stuff together, UFC is looking at pulling off 3 monster PPVs in a row (Randy v Lesnar, New Years Show, GSP v BJ (Super Bowl weekend)), and that is not good news for Affliction. Before we see affliction again we are going to see all of the best HWs that UFC has, in Randy v Lesnar, Mir v Nog, and even Werdum, Gonzaga and Carwin have scheduled fights before the next time Affliction shows us anything, and to the outside casual fan, who sees the Ultimate fighting HW and interim HW title fights, it will make WAMMA mean even less to them.

Adding to their problems is that one of their big plans, to cash in on Randy v Fedor, isn’t an option anymore, and Affliction really starts to look like it has a problem. 2-3 shows a year does not make a promotion, and affliating with Boxing promoters that have helped ruin that sport isn’t going to help much.

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]]> By: Zack with a ck http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49139 Zack with a ck Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:37:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49139 Ariel just posted on mmarated.com that HBO is NOT in the picture on this Ariel just posted on mmarated.com that HBO is NOT in the picture on this

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]]> By: Evan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49133 Evan Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:56:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49133 So considering how long boxing matches are do they plan on having a 7 hour PPV so we get to see everything? And considering how many people on the card will have a PPV percentage as part of their contract just how much will be left for Affliction to cover costs? I just don't get it. So considering how long boxing matches are do they plan on having a 7 hour PPV so we get to see everything? And considering how many people on the card will have a PPV percentage as part of their contract just how much will be left for Affliction to cover costs? I just don’t get it.

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]]> By: woooburn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49132 woooburn Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:52:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49132 “Unlike others who call for a press conference for groundbreaking MMA news, the Affliction announcement will truly change the sport, and not through a toy deal.” ... and the counterprogramming wheels are motion. who wants to play start a drinking game for every time jim lampley will compare mma to the "sweet science" during an hbo show? “Unlike others who call for a press conference for groundbreaking MMA news, the Affliction announcement will truly change the sport, and not through a toy deal.”

… and the counterprogramming wheels are motion.

who wants to play start a drinking game for every time jim lampley will compare mma to the “sweet science” during an hbo show?

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]]> By: micah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/09/11/affliction-could-move-forward-with-golden-boy-hbo-and-fedor/comment-page-1/#comment-49130 micah Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:49:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=6399#comment-49130 found this read on aol interesting in relation to donald trump's relationship with affliction. i'm wondering if golden boy will be an escape from the trump name: http://www.walletpop.com/specials/overrated-in-america?photo=15 "Trump's ability to make money is entirely dependent on the public's perception of him as a billionaire. He charges $1.5 million per speaking appearance at Learning Annex events and, according to Forbes, other builders pay him seven-figure sums to affix his name to their properties." found this read on aol interesting in relation to donald trump’s relationship with affliction. i’m wondering if golden boy will be an escape from the trump name:

http://www.walletpop.com/specials/overrated-in-america?photo=15

“Trump’s ability to make money is entirely dependent on the public’s perception of him as a billionaire. He charges $1.5 million per speaking appearance at Learning Annex events and, according to Forbes, other builders pay him seven-figure sums to affix his name to their properties.”

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