every time guida grabbed them and got him down..

Jolly, i appreciate your recap but come on, thats 15 minutes of action you’re recounting and even you must admit that Guida didnt have a lot to show for it. I want to see Mixed Martial Arts fights, not wrestling matches and i dont think Guida will rise up the rankings with performances like that. I’m guessing i wouldnt have minded so much if Rogan hadnt been going into hyperbole about his performance and Guida hadnt run around the ring in triumphant fashion.

Had Mac kept the fight on their feet, he may have come out ahead, but he wasn’t able to stop the take downs from Clay, and he even had several take downs of his own. Go figure.

But with that being said Guida did win that fight decisively. Mac even though was trying to do what he can, his kimura attempts where not half-hearted, they just could not be done. Mac pushed the pace, but to no positive outcome. Guida did enough to win. And in this sport that is all it takes.

During Rd. 1 Clay threw 4 good inside kicks before any take down. When he did get a take down, Clay was able to get out of kimora. Then while in the clinch against the cage he threw good knees to the body of Mac. The next take down came with mulitple elbows and body shots. In round 2 he got a take down, and attempted a rear naked choke with 20 seconds left in the round. Going into rd. 3 Mac got the first take down, sunk in a kimora, but Clay was able to escape it and got his back. Danzig was exhausted by this point of rd 3 and was even looking at the clock from the clinch. Mac again tried for a kimora but couldn’t get it. Clay was able to get out of and get Mac’s back again, throwing a few good knees on the way there.

That is just an abbreviated version. Danzig’s game plan was shot to hell by Guida’s fast pace. No he didn’t submit Mac after the multiple take downs, but Mac did nothing from the guard either. His attempts at the kimora’s seemed half hearted. Mac invited several of the take downs. Go back and watch round 2 again. Mac would throw a kick, telepathed so that Clay just grabbed his leg and took him down. That happened several times. Mac was not able to implement his superior striking because Guida wasn’t still long enough for him to get an opening. Clay was able to use his wrestling skills to control Mac while he was on the ground. I would have loved to see Guida try more submissions, but the fact is, IMO, that from the first bell, till the final bell, Clay Guida controlled everything that happened in that ring. Mac Danzig was not able to stop the take downs, get a submission while on the ground, nor was he able to use boxing, kicks or knees in the clinch to inflict any damage. I was surprised that Danzig wasn’t able to implement his game plan at all during the fight.

I only saw one time that the ref would have even thought of breaking them apart, and I wouldn’t say standing them up, because they were clinched on the cage when the ref could have stopped it and moved them to the center of the octagon. They moved up and down so much there was really never more than 5-10 seconds without one of them reversing each other and continuously working. Even though neither got a submission, both were working the entire time they were on the ground.

I know you said you didn’t like watching the fight, but I think if you watched it again, you may see it differently. What Clay lacks in power and ground skills he more than makes up for in the high pace and wrestling control. Danzig just didn’t know what to do with him. Mac kept his focus and patience into round 2, but at some point during that round you could just see him lose it. He started talking to himself, you could see him cussing to himself and he just got tired. Like I said, his game plan was shot to hell.

hmmm. well we all know he’s a great wrestler and a strong guy joe but what else did he show exactly? obviously he’s got great cardio and can push a fast pace but personally i’m not that impressed or interested for that matter in that performance. danzig shouldve cut out his knee attempts because they were inevitably going to lead to a takedown but its hard to say what else he could’ve done really. As for the praise guida received for his ground and pound? Well i’d like to see the stats cos he seemed to spend the majority of his energy holding danzig down and taking him back down when he tried to stand up.

anyone else?