Comments on: Saturday’s co-promotion between EliteXC and Affliction could be the start of something beautiful… or something ugly http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:47:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51784 Jackyl Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:53:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51784 The worse part of this whole thing is the complete lack of promotion for it. I've just seen a few small TV spots and some promos during the sport events. The promos were all centered around Kimbo Slice. No mention of Shamrock. No mention of former UFC Heavyweight champ Andrei Arlovski. Hell, I've barely seen Gina Carano named in any of the more recent promos. They really needed to do a better job of pushing this fight and they need to really push more fighters than Kimbo. The worse part of this whole thing is the complete lack of promotion for it. I’ve just seen a few small TV spots and some promos during the sport events. The promos were all centered around Kimbo Slice. No mention of Shamrock. No mention of former UFC Heavyweight champ Andrei Arlovski. Hell, I’ve barely seen Gina Carano named in any of the more recent promos. They really needed to do a better job of pushing this fight and they need to really push more fighters than Kimbo.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51769 ozz_the_powerful Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:10:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51769 I'm not saying competition is bad, Stan. It's great that someone finally came along that was obvioisly good enough, or had the potential, to even make UFC flinch thus, the free Silva fight. Not following you on the boxing as an example though. Seriously? I don't believe MMA will ever get THAT desperate. I'm not knocking boxing, just not my cup of brandy. TOTALLY agree with you about competition being good. It just seems like the UFC keeps going after them though, head to head dates with events......whatever. Does it make me upset? Not enough to care, really. I'll always support the UFC. Let my "wallet do some more talking then?" Yeah, I will. This is also where competition can be a good thing, say, price war? Kinda like when there are 4 gas stations right next to each other. There will always be one cheaper than the others.............. I’m not saying competition is bad, Stan. It’s great that someone finally came along that was obvioisly good enough, or had the potential, to even make UFC flinch thus, the free Silva fight. Not following you on the boxing as an example though. Seriously? I don’t believe MMA will ever get THAT desperate. I’m not knocking boxing, just not my cup of brandy. TOTALLY agree with you about competition being good. It just seems like the UFC keeps going after them though, head to head dates with events……whatever. Does it make me upset? Not enough to care, really. I’ll always support the UFC. Let my “wallet do some more talking then?” Yeah, I will. This is also where competition can be a good thing, say, price war? Kinda like when there are 4 gas stations right next to each other. There will always be one cheaper than the others…………..

]]> By: Stan the Caddy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51709 Stan the Caddy Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:09:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51709 "Bottom line, both organizations can live and not rob each other of money. Stagger your PPV’s, and every once in a while, co-promote. Throw the fans a frickin bone…….we’re the ones shelling out the money to watch it and give you those buys and ratings anyway." Let your wallet do some more talking than. If you're upset enough about how the UFC does business than don't support their business practices. The real bottom line is, we wouldn't have been able to see Anderson Silva fight on free tv if it wasn't for the competition between different orgs. Nor would we have been able to see a stacked card like the one Affliction put on. Competition is good. Just look to boxing for an example of what MMA will look like in 15 years or so when every organization is buddy buddy with each other and delivering the best product isn't the primary goal anymore. “Bottom line, both organizations can live and not rob each other of money. Stagger your PPV’s, and every once in a while, co-promote. Throw the fans a frickin bone…….we’re the ones shelling out the money to watch it and give you those buys and ratings anyway.”

Let your wallet do some more talking than. If you’re upset enough about how the UFC does business than don’t support their business practices. The real bottom line is, we wouldn’t have been able to see Anderson Silva fight on free tv if it wasn’t for the competition between different orgs. Nor would we have been able to see a stacked card like the one Affliction put on. Competition is good. Just look to boxing for an example of what MMA will look like in 15 years or so when every organization is buddy buddy with each other and delivering the best product isn’t the primary goal anymore.

]]> By: jdavis http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51705 jdavis Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:45:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51705 This co-promotion feels more like desperation on both companies part than anything else. This co-promotion feels more like desperation on both companies part than anything else.

]]> By: ozz_the_powerful http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51703 ozz_the_powerful Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:29:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51703 I like the idea of co-promotion. I am however, a bit dissapointed with the UFC over their constant ratings battle with Affliction. What are they afraid of? I love UFC, don't get me wrong. But I like to watch FIGHTS. They can't keep EVERY great fighter. If they would just schedule their PPV's a few weeks apart from each other, nobody loses. I think it was very selfish to put the Anderson Silva fight on Spike the same night as Affliction's first PPV. What a kick in the beans. UFC fans lost the opportunity to see a few good fights with big names, and those that did watch it had to fight with friggin TiVo to record Fight Night. Bottom line, both organizations can live and not rob each other of money. Stagger your PPV's, and every once in a while, co-promote. Throw the fans a frickin bone.......we're the ones shelling out the money to watch it and give you those buys and ratings anyway. I like the idea of co-promotion. I am however, a bit dissapointed with the UFC over their constant ratings battle with Affliction. What are they afraid of? I love UFC, don’t get me wrong. But I like to watch FIGHTS. They can’t keep EVERY great fighter. If they would just schedule their PPV’s a few weeks apart from each other, nobody loses. I think it was very selfish to put the Anderson Silva fight on Spike the same night as Affliction’s first PPV. What a kick in the beans. UFC fans lost the opportunity to see a few good fights with big names, and those that did watch it had to fight with friggin TiVo to record Fight Night.

Bottom line, both organizations can live and not rob each other of money. Stagger your PPV’s, and every once in a while, co-promote. Throw the fans a frickin bone…….we’re the ones shelling out the money to watch it and give you those buys and ratings anyway.

]]> By: rob http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51688 rob Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:02:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51688 Personally I feel that we would get some wonderful matchups - -maybe Shields/Lindland (@185) JZ/Josh Thompson (if it was a total collaboration) Frank Shamrock/Robbie Lawler, etc. - -I'm all for the fights - - Personally I feel that we would get some wonderful matchups – -maybe Shields/Lindland (@185) JZ/Josh Thompson (if it was a total collaboration) Frank Shamrock/Robbie Lawler, etc. – -I’m all for the fights – -

]]> By: Jeremy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51687 Jeremy Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:17:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51687 I generally feel we won't get much of anything out of this co-promotion. Beautiful or ugly. I think EliteXC is in too much financial trouble for this to even get off its feet. Affliction, already partnered with Golden Boy, doesn't even seem to be able to get a full 2nd show off the ground as of now. Doesn't seem like anything that is going to make an impact for either side to me. I generally feel we won’t get much of anything out of this co-promotion. Beautiful or ugly. I think EliteXC is in too much financial trouble for this to even get off its feet. Affliction, already partnered with Golden Boy, doesn’t even seem to be able to get a full 2nd show off the ground as of now. Doesn’t seem like anything that is going to make an impact for either side to me.

]]> By: catch http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51685 catch Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:05:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51685 Good article. Good article.

]]> By: Fightlinker.com » Blog Archive » Working together is overrated http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/03/saturday%e2%80%99s-co-promotion-between-elitexc-and-affliction-could-be-the-start-of-something-beautiful%e2%80%a6-or-something-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-51684 Fightlinker.com » Blog Archive » Working together is overrated Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:42:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7450#comment-51684 [...] Sam Caplan has a detailed history of how promotions working together rarely hits a synergistic level and usually ends up being a clusterfuck: [...] [...] Sam Caplan has a detailed history of how promotions working together rarely hits a synergistic level and usually ends up being a clusterfuck: [...]

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