twitter google

EliteXC Vice President Jared Shaw comments on reaction towards referee after Slice vs. Petruzelli fight; his feelings about Shamrock’s cut; and more in new interview

Immediately following the post-fight press conference for EliteXC and CBS’ Saturday Night Fights this past weekend in Sunrise, Florida, I was able to catch up with EliteXC Vice President Jared Shaw to discuss a number of pressing topics coming out of the fight card.

During the course of the interview, Shaw addressed his reaction towards referee Troy Waugh following the stoppage of the Kimbo Slice vs. Seth Petruzelli main event; the process in which a replacement was chosen and if canceling the event was ever under consideration; his feelings about Ken Shamrock being medically disqualified; and more.

Sam Caplan: At what point were you alerted that there might be a problem with the main event?

Jared Shaw: It’s tough for me to say. I got a call, I want to say, around 4:30 or 5:30, that there may be a problem. I ran down (to the arena) and found out that Shamrock had hurt himself. We had waited for him to come here because we didn’t know. Ken’s a gamer — a showman and a fighter — so we didn’t know. It could have been psychological warfare against Kimbo. He could think that we would tell him there’s no fight and then he would show up with no laceration. Or, how bad was it? Could we pull this fight off? We definitely wanted this fight to go.

We had a meeting with him when he arrived and we then right back with him to his dressing room. The commission looked at him and he had a laceration and they weren’t going to let the fight go. And that’s honestly where it stopped. He wanted to fight but his private doctor didn’t want him to fight. (The commission) said “no” and we had to make that move right away to figure out how we were going to save this event.

Sam Caplan: If Seth Petruzelli hadn’t taken the fight and if maybe Aaron Rosa hadn’t been a viable backup option, would the card had to have been canceled if there was no fight featuring Kimbo?

Jared Shaw: No, we would have went on with the card. We would have offered fans their money back and I’m not positive, but I believe we had even offered fans their money back because the opponent had changed. Not one fan wanted their money back, which shows you what a big sell Kimbo Slice is. But I think we did fine and it was a great card.

Sam Caplan: By getting medically disqualified, does that mean that Ken Shamrock didn’t make a single penny from the event?

Jared Shaw: He definitely didn’t make a penny. In fact, if there was any idea if there was any foul play involved, he might have lost money.

Sam Caplan: Did at any point did he grandstand in an attempt to get more money?

Jared Shaw: No, he never grandstanded. He wanted to fight. He came in there and he was defeated when (the commission) told him “no.” But for EliteXC, we’d like to believe in Ken and what happened but it’s just very eerie on the day of and again, the cut is real, there’s no doubt about it. The laceration was there. But none of us were there so it’s tough to say why he was sparring so hard the day of. I asked Tito Ortiz if fighters spar on the day of and he said he goes full that day, which surprised me. So maybe he didn’t completely hit his head, or maybe he did? I don’t speak to every fighter about their sparring practices the day of (a fight), I just know that boxers don’t. It’s interesting to me.

Sam Caplan: When Kimbo was approached about a replacement was their any apprehension on his camp’s part of were they all over the Petruzelli fight?

Jared Shaw: It wasn’t even a concern to anybody. His reaction was like, “I’ve got fans here, I’m not letting them down. We’ve got to do this. Let’s figure out how we can make this happen.” Obviously, there was a period of initial shock. You know, your fight isn’t happening and it’s not the same guy. We can show you a quick tape of Petruzelli, but what’s really out there on the YouTubes of the world?

To Kimbo’s credit, he took the fight. He didn’t have to take this fight. He could have sat back and chilled. He could have come back and fought Nov. 8 on SHOWTIME. There possibly could have been another opportunity but it wasn’t even discussed. It was never a discussion. He wasn’t going to let his fans down.

Sam Caplan: It appeared that after the fight was over that you were in the cage having a heated discussion with the head official. Were you happy with the stoppage?

Jared Shaw: I wasn’t necessarily angry, I just want to have the right decisions at all times. From my vantage point it looked like the second punch was to the back of the head, which is a foul. That could hit a fighter’s equilibrium and mess them up. And you turn him over and you punch him a couple of times and the ref stops it because there’s no recovery time after that. So I just asked the ref to please look at the video. I asked Thomas Milloy to please look at the video. And Kimbo’s camp will take their own look at the video. I can’t file a protest myself but I think his camp will look at it and decide on their own. I just wanted to make sure the ref saw it from the proper vantage point because I want to make sure we have the right calls at all times.

Sam Caplan: When you saw the replay on the screen, did you still feel the second punch was a foul?

Jared Shaw: I think Seth Petruzelli definitely had a nice, clean first punch but… Look, I don’t say refs make the wrong calls because the hardest job in the business is that of the referee. He’s got to make that stoppage. He’s got to decide when to break fighters up. And none of us know because none of are in there – unless some of us have reffed – but you don’t know what you’re seeing and how quick you’re seeing it. So I never go against a referee’s decision but sometimes decisions are rendered and they might not be the correct call. Not that it’s going to get overturned but maybe it’s more reason to see a rematch. I don’t know. I saw something and I pointed it out. I saw it again and I still feel what I saw is the same thing but it’s not up to me.

Sam Caplan: Where does Seth Petruzelli go from here? He’s competed as a heavyweight and he’s competed as a light heavyweight. What do you see as his weight class from this point forward?

Jared Shaw: That’s very interesting. We’ve got to sit down and talk with Seth because he’s fought as a heavyweight before moving down to light heavyweight. He had some tough fights in another organization against some of the best fighters in the world. He was going to come back as a light heavyweight against Aaron Rosa but took a shot against a big-time heavyweight and gave up a lot of weight. He obviously showed he’s got heavyweight hands; that’s what he showed more than anything. Kimbo Slice is a guy who has been hit bare knuckles many times but has never been dropped from a jab in the way he dropped off of that. To me, Petruzelli has got heavy hands. He could move to light heavyweight and fight (Rafael Feijao) Cavalcante. There’s another…

Sam Caplan: (Interrupts) I was going to ask you about that. How about Nov. 8? Is that possible?

Jared Shaw: Definitely not possible. Way too soon. A guy like that deserves a nice rest. He took a big step up today. He’s going to be a star in this sport. People keep asking me if I’m depressed or if this is a tough day for me? This is a great day for EliteXC. We have more stars now. To me, I watch this and you can tell me if I’m wrong but I felt like every loser was a winner tonight. From Ninja Rua, who even though he was knocked out cold, still gave us the most exciting Ninja we’ve watched; to Kelly Kobold, who is an absolute warrior with a sponge for a mouth; to Yoko Takahashi who has no quit in her; Roy Nelson was winning that fight, possibly, even, and then got caught. I’m sure he wants another opportunity. For me, it was a win for EliteXC and it was a win for mixed martial arts. Kimbo Slice is still a star like I told you and Seth Petruzelli is now a star. I’m really excited for the future.

Sam Caplan: Is it safe to assume that Petruzelli is already under a long-term contract with EliteXC?

Jared Shaw: Yes, Seth is under a long-term contract. We’ll talk to him about what the future brings. Seth Petruzelli has got some big fights under his belt, I’ll tell you that much.

78 COMMENTS
  • Jason G says:

    It looked like Kimbo turned his head right before the punch in question landed causing him to get hit in the back of the head which isn’t illegal since it wasn’t intentional. I think Shaw was angry and looking for a way to not have a loss on his record. Would he have yelled at the ref if Seth got hit in the back of the head and made a ruckus?

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Jim Genia says:

    The referee was Troy Waugh.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • dbess says:

    Seth is from my home town! GO FORT MYERS!

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • woooburn says:

    i understand shaw’s reasoning for discussing the situation after the fact, but i would have liked to hear his explanation for shouting at the ref DURING the fight. seems like a HUGE conflict of interest for a promoter to try to influence the actions of a referee. if i’m not mistaken, he did the same thing during the slice/thompson fight, right? maybe he has a history of doing this during alot of fights, but if not, i’d like to hear his justification for it. i understand kimbo’s success having a large stake in his company’s future, but that seems like a line you don’t cross.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • jim smith says:

    Shaw was like “Damn! there goes my money!”

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • tomk says:

    All it takes is 20 minutes to watch through some EliteXC fights where a guy is finished by ground and pound TKO. I guarantee “illegal shots to the back of the head” have occurred during other fights (as it’s a frequent accident that happens when someone’s finishing an opponent on the ground). He can spin it how he wants, but there’s no way he cares if anyone else was accidentally banged in the back of the head.

    Jared Shaw makes Dana White seem likable.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Matt says:

    One typo (I think) Sam, the referee was Tony Waugh, not Tony Wragge.

    I honestly can’t fathom if Jared Shaw believes what he’s saying. A fighter you had on the undercard – a castoff from the UFC with little to no success from TUF – is now going to be a star? It’s a great day for EliteXC now that your cash cow has been exposed? Don’t get me wrong, the rest of the card was pretty good and fighters such as Radach and Rua could get a marketing push as a result but I don’t see anyone tuning in to watch a Kobold or a Nelson, mostly because Nelson DOESN’T FIGHT UNDER YOUR BANNER.

    My prediction would be after EliteXC’s November card, they will fold shortly into the new year if not earlier.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • rob says:

    As long as Skala and the other mgmt (lappin – sp?, etc.) do the right thing – it very well could be a win for EliteXC. Now I know that people are going to say that Kimbo was their draw, and yes he was, but it gives them an oppotunity to build some more stars – now it’s up to the “fans of MMA”. After something like this we’ll (general public) see who is really a “fan of MMA” or just a UFC fan – – however a talent merger should not be out of the question.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Matt says:

    The problem is the “MMA fan” demographic isn’t enough to sustain their business (see number of Affliction PPV buys, Elite’s last CBS card, the IFL etc.) If it was enough they wouldn’t be $55mm in the hole and headlining a freak show.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Nightmare says:

    This is like Tom Brokaw asking Barack Obama questions. Sam wants EliteXC and Shaw to succeed more than anyone. WAMMMA, CBS Sports, this site, all of Caplan’s businesses make more money if there are other viable organizations to compete with UFC.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • D B says:

    Anybody that put Kimbo Slice as a main event or calls him a superstar of MMA can’t be trusted and Seth Petruzelli exposed the truth, Kimbo was a pawn. If you want to just put on a show and completely control it name it WWF.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Robert says:

    EliteXC could take a big step forward by firing Jared Shaw and taking the “consultant” title away from Gary Shaw they are responsible for the company being so far in the hole.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Jim Genia says:

    The referee was TROY WAUGH. He used to ref for Hook’n’Shoot, Ring of Fury and BodogFIGHT.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Patrick says:

    Shaw really needs to review the Unified Rules updated definition of what the back of the head is. Its a pretty small area. And after seeing all those replays, none of those hits seemed to fall in that category.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Tony Fennen says:

    I thought the first shot Seth through when Kimbo hit the ground was close to the back of the head but by then the damage was done.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Sans_Peur says:

    You know, the above poster who pointed out Sam’s ties to WAMMA and CBS makes a valid point, but I hardly think its fair to criticize this piece of journalism just because of that. Sam has shown time and again to be a fine journalist who is able to report with little to no spin, and who legitimately cares about the sport (for instance, he came to my home town to cover a local fight featuring some of the folks that I train with – most MMA reporters woiuldn’t have bothered, if they even knew about the fight).

    I’m inclined to agree with the othet poster who is predicting a fold for EliteXC, but only if they don’t capitalize on some blossoming situations. If they can sign Tito, cross-promote some more with Affliction, and up their production quality (for the love of God, GET NEW COMMENTATORS!!!) I think they might have a chance. It’s a big if, I know, but time will tell.

    Finally, I think all MMA fans can breathe a sigh of relief that Kimbo has his first blemish. Now let’s see how (or if) he rebounds from it; that will give us a much clearer view of what caliber fighter he may or not be. Maybe we can finally get a break from all of the Kimbo-ganda.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • jamo says:

    he caught kimbo cold it happens in boxing and mma all the time,he went charging in and got caught.i dont like kimbo that much just becouse how elite xc have made him in to something he realy aint,if xc go under and ufc sign him dana would rip him to pieces as he always does with fighters he didnt create.happens to the best of um!!ha

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • HexRei says:

    Jared Shaw has a mouth like a matt groening cartoon

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • cheapshot says:

    good lord! ten vague, non-committal answers from jared shaw.

    anyone get the feeling he has to run away to ask daddy what’s going to happen next?

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Kuch says:

    Did $kala mention they paid Seth more money to keep the fight standing?

    “The promoters kinda hinted to me, and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him. They didn’t want me to take him down. Let’s just put it that way.”

    He (Seth) apparently made that statement in an interview today.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Mr.PIBB says:

    If EliteXC folds, we all know Kimbo would have a lucrative career in Japan. Those japanese LOVE a big black menacing guy that fights, no matter what his record is.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • HexRei says:

    Yeah, Shaw is justifying his behavior after the fact. It’s not a promoter’s job to tell refs when a foul occurs, anyway. And a single punch to the back of the head (after several replays I think it really just was one) doesn’t warrant anything more than a warning anyway.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • JollyDV says:

    After reading the article I realized Jared Shaw has the potential to be a politician.

    The first question he answered straight on as to when he was alerted about the injury of Shamrock.

    The second question about whether the show would go on with or without Petruzelli he contradicted himself by saying the fight would have went on regardless and they would have given fans their money back,oh and I think we offered their money back, but not one person would take it .Either you offered money back or you didn’t?

    The third question asked if Shamrock got paid. Mr. Shaw said no, and added to the drama by inferring that if there was any “foul play” that Ken may even lose money. How? Is EliteXC going to fine him?? If he made no money there is nothing to take.

    Question number four asked if Shamrock did any grandstanding to get more money. He answered it no, but then added a whole paragraph about what other fighters do on the day of a fight, going so far as to drop Tito’s name. Then does a 360 because Tito goes full on the day of a fight and says he only knows boxers don’t do it. What a way to hang your fighter out to dry.

    He answers question six regarding whether there was a chance of Kimbo not taking the fight. Of course there was never even a thought of not taking the fight. Ever!

    Question seven was worded nicely Sam. Since this is my comment I am going to ask it differently. Why were you in the cage after the fight screaming and yelling at the ref? Did you think you could intimidate the referee and get him to change his decision? How angry where you? lol. The first thing he said was that he was not necessarily angry. Sam never asked that. Odd don’t you think. Sam’s question was “where you happy with the stoppage”, Mr. Shaw never answered that question. He babbled on about only wanting to make sure the referee called it correctly. What! I can understand the fighter and his corner doing that, but the VP of the promotion??

    He hem hawed around answering question eight. He goes on about Seth having a clean punch and the job of the ref, yadda yadda, then says he still saw the foul after watching the replay. Way to stick to your guns!

    The next question refers to what happens with Seth now. Mr. Shaw starts talking without really saying anything and Sam interrupts the possibilities and asks..

    Question ten, will we see Petruzelli on the Nov. 8th card? Mr. Shaw says no, he has to rest his new MMA star. He then starts on how great it is that Seth won because now he has more stars in his stable. That the losers from tonight aren’t really losers. The world is a beautiful place.

    The last question asked if Petruzelli was signed to a long term contract. Mr. Shaw responded with a yes and he added that Seth has some “big” fights coming.

    Mr. Jared Shaw was able to answer a few of the questions directly, but just as politicians do, he sometimes didn’t answer the question asked at all, but just went off on his own path that pointed in a different direction. I suppose it can be a good thing when dealing with the media, but coming from Jared Shaw, it has a negative effect. Maybe with a little more polishing he can clean up the image that has become EliteXC.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Richie says:

    *cough*bullsh!t*cough*ahem*

    Excuse me.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Derek says:

    Anyone that complains about shots to the back of the head, and early stoppages should take a look at Kimbo’s last fights. He too is guilty of punching to the back of the head, and his fight against Thompson shoulda been stopped when Thompson was laying on him raining down unanswered blows for over a minute. He is the EliteXC cash cow and they’ll do anything to set him up to win.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Toque says:

    Anyone else think EXC’s next stunt will be for Shaw to challenge Dana to a boxing match?

    You know, given how well that worked the first time.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Simon Cason says:

    Why didnt Ken just glue the damn thing shut, keep his mouth shut and forget it even happened. He would have the glory right now instead of Seth. As I said before, nobody is going to convince me the outcome would have been any different no matter if Ken fought or not. Ken is the Loser just as EX/C is the Loser.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • ted says:

    MR.Shaw

    don’t referee’s have the best VIEW or does VP ???????? Maybe if kimbo was a real MMA Fighter he may have won or at least his chance of winning would have increased,

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Robert says:

    Simon Cason apparently you have not seen any of Shamrock’s last 5 or 6 fights he has nothing left he would have been knocked out.I know nobody has seen any of Seth’s fights in King of the Cage but he’s a legitimate fighter and much more dangerous at this point than Shamrock that’s why Ken was offered was offered the fight.He’s shot physically.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Rich S. says:

    this guy is SO OBVIOUSLY corrupt..
    and you guys are right when you say that he wouldn’t have cared about someone else taking illegal blows..
    this is definitely not about justice..
    it’s about his prized possession..
    i like Kimbo..
    but they need to just lay low on the advertising..
    i know they’re going to turn this right around and build him even higher..
    the commercial will go something like this: “The first time was a fluke.. Now, Kimbo’s out for REVENGE!” or “The stoppage was controversial.. This tima around, Kimbo’s out for JUSTICE!”

    that’s all they have to do to make it look as though Kimbo never even lost..

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Michael Scott says:

    Seth Petruzelli was kimbo slice’s first professional opponent and a natural light heavy weight ,at that. everyone ,up til this point, that kimbo has fought have been fat, out of shape bums that probably came straight from a barstool. jared shaw took advantage of some b.s. he saw on youtube. i lost all respect for elite xc when i heard him screaming at the ref about an illegal blow which is a complete conflict of interest. he wanted kimbo to be the face of the sport. i would suggest if he wants to make a credible organization then he has to have credible headliners and true professionals as fighters.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • kikass says:

    Now you know you didn’t offer ANYBODY refunds!! I’ll be more than happy to take back my $145 that I paid to watch Shamrock dethrone Kimbo!! Not once did I hear ANY announcement about possible refunds…. I won’t even ask for the $80 in gas, $120 for room, & $20 for parking in the fu@*&#g rain.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Robert says:

    You people have to understand that Jared Shaw makes no major decisions for EliteXC he’s basically a mouthpiece for hyping fights and got his position thanks to his father.That being said i don’t know why he’s still around i do have the feeling his days as are his fathers numbered.If CBS takes control of EliteXC you’ll see major changes.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • JT says:

    Great win for ATT!

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • troy smith says:

    there was no offer for your money back. i will take my money back
    $2000 for 2 seats
    $340 for hotel
    $3600 for 2 1stclass air
    $500 limo transportation
    jared is full of shit about offering money back.i have never seen anyone act like that. he was just in front of us and to the right. i could here everything he was saying.just watch the replay and read his lips. you will notice jeremy lappen just sat there like he should and not say a word as he just watched his cash cow get tko.
    what worse then that is kimbo hood rat entourage throw trash at seth. you will see that to in the replay.then they were fighting with seth wife and family and trainers like some thugs. i asked kimbo and mike questions in the press room regarding the ringside shit and they declined to comment.
    the replay will show everything.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • HexRei says:

    bahahahaha troy you actually paid $2000 for two seats to watch kimbo vs shamrock? LOL. Want to pay $200 to watch me fight an elderly man?

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • troy smith says:

    well smart ass if you can get ring side seats inside the baricade for less then
    $1000 a piece then i will buy them for you!!!

    let me guess you watched it on cbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • HexRei says:

    no I watched it from my orbital x-ray spy satellite. for free.

    You sure you put enough 1’s on the end of that post?

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • oh well thers always the next KIMBO fight!

    He’ll be back. Its not over.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • JB says:

    Listen to shaw trying to protect the only thing keeping his company alive,just as he has protected it in every one of it’s fights.Hey Shaw, if you care so much about the rules maybe you should review that Kimbo vs. Bo Cantrall fight tape.There was some hits to the back of the head or “FOULS” going on there too.Maybe Cantrall wouldn’t have tapped if he wasn’t being smashed in the back of the head with “FOULS”.Should that decision be overturned too Shaw???

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Brian says:

    Kimbo WAS hit in the back of the head right when he hit the ground. It was an ILLEGAL hit. Yea he was on the ground but he could have recovered if he wasn’t hit in the back of the head. I believe the first hit stunned him and the 2nd hit to the back of the head finished him off.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Tha Wrecka Mann says:

    I think Kimbo will come back even stronger from it! The guy is a fighter, He cant get away from it, its in his blood, All he has to do is look at Brock Lesnars Road so far in MMA, and I believe he will, He knows and so does everyone else one day Brock Lesnar vs Kimbo Slice will happen It has to if they dont they will be missing out on alot of money. HUGE payday fight…

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Tha Wrecka Mann says:

    how bout the Fat ass tank abbot wanna be “Big Country” vs Arlovski, I guarentee this dude came straight out the bar, That was pretty embarrasing, You mean to tell me anybody who Knows how to swing there fist in a bar down the road from the venue your about to have a show at is in a fight with Andrae Arlovski, give me a break!!! Although it was pretty entertaining. I give elite xc cudos though I kinda like there Style, just not well organized on promotion, I have a god friend that loves watching the big fights he didnt know anything about Elite XC, he didnt even see the fight. they need to take this Kimbo loss as a stepping stone and answer and keep it going or they will be crushed by UFC, Especially with Coutour Coming back to fight Griffen, Dana White is a beast he wont let you hang around very long and make his money.. It kinda reminds me of the WWF WCW War… But look who won the war WWE, UFC is the WWE of MMA….. neither company recognizes the other by name they say another company, Im into it though I wont stop watching either

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Tasur says:

    Jared Shaw is an idiot.

    Do you think he’d be screaming at the ref like that if a fighter not named Kimbo was hit on the back of the head? Obviously not.

    Total favoritism toward Kimbo, confirming what everyone already knows… EliteXC needs Kimbo to win, to protect the marketing farce they’ve built around him. Stop trying to deny it Shaw, we’re not as dumb as you.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Cooped says:

    Got to love how Shaw ALWAYS takes Kimbo’s side. It must be hard for Seth to hear that his ‘boss’ thinks he had to foul his way to a win, but yet still wants to make him a star (after Kimbo of course). Kimbo is turning more into an anchor, pulling any legitemacy that EliteXC might have had down with him.

    As a promotor, Shaw’s only concerning should be collecting the money, and paying out the money. He should not care which fighter wins, as ALL of the fighters that night work for him.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Ismael Reyes says:

    I saw the hit to the back of the head, though not intentional it was to the back of the head. pay attention to the ref as soon as he hits him he steps in to stop the fight for the hit. The ref even puts his hands on Seth, but hey Kimbo took his “butt kicking” like a fighter should. No harm in that, so you got one loss no one expects for anybody to go undefeated. Unless you are Floyd Mayweather Jr. and run the entire fight…..lol So to all the haters take a hammer to the back of your head and try to recover from that. Nothing taken away from Seth he is a hell of a fighter, he was my pick to win TUF.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • RA says:

    JT seth is not with ATT anymore he has his own gym THE JUNGLE and it should be a great gym for the future..

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • HexRei says:

    Tha Wrecka Mann on October 7th, 2008 3:47 am

    how bout the Fat ass tank abbot wanna be “Big Country” vs Arlovski, I guarentee this dude came straight out the bar, That was pretty embarrasing, You mean to tell me anybody who Knows how to swing there fist in a bar down the road from the venue your about to have a show at is in a fight with Andrae Arlovski, give me a break!!! Although it was pretty entertaining.

    It was pretty entertaining because Nelson is actually a pretty good fighter. He didn’t come out of a bar, he came out of IFL, where he was kicking a lot of ass until they folded.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • TheTruth says:

    Fixed! Fixed! Fixed! The whole thing was fixed. If this wasn’t fixed then Kimbo isn’t worth watching on free TV. What a joke of a fight. A half-jab and someone gets knocked out in 14 seconds??? Dana White is loving it. He knows EliteXC just took a major blow (if not a fatal blow). UFC is obviously where the real fighters are at. UFC is like the NFL where EliteXC is pop-warner football (a league for kids to learn the sport). EliteXC doesn’t deserve airtime and I would rather watch Sarah Palin make an a$$ out of herself in another debate. I hope EliteXC does give Kimbo a rematch because anyone with any sort of intelligence will not watch and EliteXC will tank. GO AWAY ELITEXC…YOU SUCK!!!

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Ken says:

    Its illeagal to strike the back of an opponents head
    intentional or not. If a fighter turns his head while your punching and
    you strike the back of his head you should first be warned then DQ’d.
    Seth won this fight.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Dan Gamilian says:

    KIMBO is the Damn Man , No little pink haired pansay is gonna beat my man, he takes bare knuckle punches to the face on his internet video, KIMBO does have a damn chin, that was the most bull crap punch from seth I don’t think it would have knocked down my 6 year old niese. Kimbo is and will always be a super star, keep him in fight cards and he will prove this fact.

    wam bam thank you mam

    “GAMBO SLICE”

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Rich S. says:

    ya, Tha Wrecka Mann, i don’t know if that was supposed to be a joke or something, but Roy Nelson wasn’t picked up in a bar.. he was a champion in the IFL, which i’m sure you’ve never heard of.. oh, and rather than claiming he was swinging like a drunkard, how about you rewatch the fight, so you can see that he actually dominated most of the first round..

    either way, i’ve never liked the guy.. and i was glad to see him fall right on his belly..
    But seriously, for AA to be trainin’ with Roach, and not blocking.. is crazy..

    he needs to fix that..

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • D says:

    So I’m assuming Jared Shaw was upset after the Kimbo/Tank fight? If I recall right, Kimbo threw some bombs on the back of Tank’s head. Oh wait that doesn’t matter…

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • troy smith says:

    just like tito said ringside
    KEN should have super glued his cut and put makeup on it to. they do it all the time.

    JARED SHAW was trying to save his cash cow. that why he was YELLING at the ref like he was.

    it is piss poor management that is bringing them down.if JEREMY LAPPEN was running the show ELITEXC would be alot better.

    good luck with your 60 million debt!

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • TERESA says:

    if you ask me, i am glad that kimbo lost. He’s only had 3 fights prior to this and he is a main eventer. what kind of crap is that? how do you go from being a nobody to being the main event in atleast 3 (that i have seen) out of 4 fights that he has ever fought as a professional. As for ken sharmock, i think he wussed out. he is such a fake. his days are over and he knows it. tito made sure of that. and as for tito signing on with elitexc. give me a break! he needs to retire too.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • ruben says:

    jared shaw should not worry about his “cash cow”. I personally think that kimbo slice is way overaided. don’t get me wrong, he is definitly is a knock out artist. But to be in mma you need more then that to be succesful. it showed when he fought his last fight where he, i think, barely won. he only had 3 pro fights prior to saturdays’ fight. Jared shaw has alot of other and better fighters that could put on a show. It stil would have been nice to see kimbo get beat even worse by shamrock who might i add is a very well rounded fighter. I hope to see that fight some time in the future.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • matt says:

    its pretty obvious that elitexc is trying as hard as possible to paint this as a robbery for kimbo slice hes there meal ticket and only the only exciting fighter besides arlovski .you heard what he said but in any normal fight that “punch to the back of the head’ you know the one where if you actually watched the fight was not there it never happened. they want to people to doubt that there golden boy lost which he did fair and square he lost this is a failed attempt for a shady pathetic organization to protect there precious meal ticket

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • seth says:

    the dude sat ringside and watched his mealticket get demolished in 14 SECONDS!!!!!!!!!! he completely freaked out and tried to do everything possible to keep the fight going(in front of everyone mind you,thats beyond bad).doing what he did and hearing the blabbering nonsense hes yappin about now shows firsthand why elite xc will bve a afterthought soon. then what? how many of elite xc’s people are gonna hang in UFC? not many and certainly not kimbo. lesson learned here is you can only fool people for so long before you get exposed for what you are. elite xc got theirs saturday night. good luck to them from here, theyre gonna need it.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • goldy says:

    shaw should just shut his mouth if he wants to talk about bad refing against kimbo …….did u see him complaing after the bad refing in kimbos other fights? or even erlier in the roy nelson fight , he had complete control over orlovsky and hes advancing his position yet they still stand it up ? i think i convince myself after i watch and elitexc ppv or show on cbs to never watch it ever again , i dont know why i dont but all this rematch talk is jsut funny cuz petruzelli is way lighter then him and still knocked him out give him 20-30 more pounds its gunna be jsut as bad!

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • chris says:

    Why is everyone making up an excuses for kimbo? What a load of crap. Fights get changed and he finally had to fight someone that knew what they where doing. Both of them took the fight on short notice but if kimbo won nothing would be said. This is starting to turn to look like the ufc. Everyone cry and bitch and bitch. He can not beat someone that is not old as dirt or just sucks. He should have lost his last fight to. He got drop with a weak punch and his shit split open. Face you can not fight thug against talent. Talent will always win. Then he wonders why fighters do not care to fight him, because they do not care about him.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • nsis says:

    who the hellll is kimbo a BUM thes dum asses gut from the streats and put him ona a cage thats what hapens when you fight some one how is not paid of UFC for ever FUK kimbo go back to seling crac on the streats

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • glock says:

    KIMBO IS A JOKE .

    TAPOUT KIMBO IS BAD FOR THE BUSINESS DROP HIM.

    BAS I FILL SORRY FOR YOU BEACUSE YOUR THE REAL DEAL TRAINING BIMBO IS BAD IMAGE.

    KIMBO YOU SUCK

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • kimBOO! says:

    i think elite xc has a HUGE bias when it comes to their competitors. basically, all they care about is the money instead of the actual fight. since kimbo generates more money, of course they would want the fans to see him knock someone out. if you look at his last fight with james thompson, i dont know about you guys, but i saw kimbo tap out. elice xc needs to stop protecting kimbo and just realize that he may not be an “MMA fighter.”

    as dana white put it “kimbo slice wouldn’t survive in the UFC”
    … i guess elite xc should’ve realized that too

    my advice: just stick to making uneven match-ups on the streets kimbo, you don’t belong in the cage just yet

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • michael says:

    i think that kimbo slice is over rated any way kimbo got what was comming to him i think he would have lost aganist ken if they would have let him fight….kimbo is just over rated i like him he is a great fighter and he will get better but right now he is just over rated

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Steve says:

    Elite XC is fighting an up hill battle against the UFC. They are hinging the whole thing on Kimbo Slice because he’s all they have got. The rest of their fighters are no names or UFC & WEC wash outs like Nick Diaz, Tank Abott, Scott Smith Nija Hua and Phill Barone ???? and yes Ken and Frank Shamrock. Now there adding Tito Ortiz. Elite XC is a minor league show trying to be a major league attraction. Now their golden boy just got beat by a fighter who lost during the ultimate fighter and followed it up with a second loss in the first round, 0-2 in the UFC. I think Ken would have destroyed Kimbo if they had faught. But remember there was a reason he retired to begin with. The UFC is the big dog on the block but it’s nice that all the washouts have a place to go when they can’t compete in the UFC anymore. They can just keep telling them selves there starting up a great new organization. PRIDE is dead change the name to Elite XC and it’s still dead. At least they lost the ring.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • mark lewis says:

    It’s not Kimbo’s fault that EXC need him so badly. If you get offered a nice fat payday to headline EXC are you going to turn it down? I didn’t think so. I’m not a Kimbo fan, but I can’t blame him for taking the money. Blame EXC for all the crap, fix allegations, hype etc, not Kimbo.

    My bigger worry is how this farce will affect the general public’s perception of MMA, lots of people think this sport is barbaric at best, with fixing on the agenda now thanks to EXC I really hope the other organizations will not be tarred with the same brush.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Steve says:

    I don’t blame Kimbo Slice at all. I think if he got with a Good camp and got some ground training, Jujitsu and some appropriet training in stricking he could be one of the best Heavy wieghts out there. He’s a tough S.O.B. But He landed in Elite XC due to Name recognition and not skill level. I beleive that none of the Elite XC fighters landed there due to there skill level. Every fighter on their roster that I know landed there after a string of loses in the UFC. Diaz, Shamrock, Scott Smith, Phil Baroni, Tank Abott, Andrea Arloski, Yves Edwards, Robie Lawler, TITO ORTIZ. The rest are wash outs from WEC or Fighters left over from the Pride buy out . You know the ones that the UFC didn’t want( , Antonio Silva ) or the’re just no names. You can’t tell me that if any of these fighter were in contention for a UFC title they’d be any where near Elite XC.

    I do agree with you whole heartedly about the negative impact recent Elite XC actions and preception are having on this great sport. But I don’t think Kimbo took a dive. I think he just got knocked out by a second rate UFC / ultimate fighter washout in Seth “the silver back” Petrucelli. And dont get me wrong I respect all the above listed fighters for what they do. BUt there’s only one UFC One King of the hill and not everyone can fight for the best. Lets just hope Elite XC cleans up their act before it effects the whole sport of MMA.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • akknelle says:

    I still don’t think that the fight should have been stopped so soon. just my opinion. yea, kimbo got caught with a nice jab that startled him and knocked him down, but those punches while he was down were like love taps lol. the ref should have let it go a little longer. but, as it is, kimbo lost. im sure he’ll get a rematch.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Jeffrey Durham says:

    UFC rules I think EliteXC should throw in the towel!

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Anferny says:

    I really dont mind EliteXC displaying ppl who dropped out of the UFC..
    There simply isnt enough room for all those ambitious guys on the UFC card.

    I am certain that almost all of the fights shown under the label of EliteXC are of higher level – or more entertaining, than 70% of the eg. Even if K1 fights we get to see in europe. The top of K1 are right there, but the washed out ppl in other organsiations are a lot less watchable, than the washed out ppl from the UFC.
    So I am glad about the EliteXC – the more entertaining fights we get the better.

    From this point of view putting Kimbo on main cards isnt bad at all. He is entertaining. I am practicing martial arts myself, so I know that the one should demand quality in such show, rather than just entertainmend, but I think Kimbo is an exception, simply due to his enormous reputation.

    I think its good for Kimbo’s carreer that he has to refocus at this point, I am sure he will come back stronger.
    To be honest, I was quite disappointed with the stoppage. If you have seen what Kimbo can take on the internet, you would know he has a tough chin.
    When trained MMA fighters let their hands fall to the side like this, they are mostly about to go out. In case of kimbo its just lack of experience. I am sure he would have recovered very quickly. Seths hurt him with 2 shots. 1st took him off balance standing (he is a full contact karate guy, their ‘jabs’ differ from boxing) the 2nd was on the back of the head, leaving him dazed, but not knocked out.
    Difficult to judge when you are in the middle of all that ofcourse.

    Btw. for those who criticize EX and wonder how Kimbo made it to the top place in the event – look at the UFC and Brock Lesnar..
    its the very same thing.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Steve says:

    Anferny did you watch the same fight I did. The supposed punch to the back of the head was actually a puch the landed behind the ear whcih is perfectly legal. Pretty much all knock out head kicks land in same exact spot. Just watch Cro Cop in action. Kimbo was not going to get a chance to recover because Petracelli was all over him and Kimbo was not protecting himself thats why the fight was stopped and rightfully so. I do agree with you that the loss will improve Kimbo’s carrer by forcing him to focus on things differently. And as far a Brock Lesnar and the UFC, it not the same Lesnar is, all be it in the past a very highly decorated roman greco wrestler. So he has a base that Kimbo doesn’t. Also he almost beat a former champion only lossing because he got over excited and made a stupid mistake. Next he completely dominated one of the most experienced heavey weights in MMA in Heath Hearing. Lesnar would distroy Kimbo. Lastly no one has better fights then the UFC thats why there number one In MMA and in Paperview sales. But it is nice and entertaining to watch some of the UFC wash outs fight as long as there still relavent in the sport. Tank Abott not so much.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Robert says:

    What the hell are Paperview sales? Please explain this i would love to hear it.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Anferny says:

    Well Steve I looked at it in the slo-mo and i felt it was on the back of the head, but it certainly was the blow that really got dazed the 2nd time and hindered him from getting back to the feet.
    Observing the other blows that fllowed, it seems like none of them really connected..
    Well anyhow, I hope he’ll come back stronger ;)

    @ Robert – ufc Shows are brought to the audience by offering Pay-Per-View. You pay a certain amount of money and then the channel lets you watch the show. Otherwise it is locked.
    This way they do no only make a lot of money, but also can capture very well how many and which ppl actually watch the ufc events.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Robert says:

    I can’t believe you explained Pay-Per-View sales to me. I was simply pointing out the goofball above me calling them Paperview sales.You did’nt get that? What is wrong with you people?

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • CPellet says:

    Shaw you are full of $hit, you offered no refunds! The first interview you said you offered the fans money back and we said NO, now you say, I think we offered money back? I flew in from Providence, RI with six (6) tickets in section four (4) row F. If you offered my money back I would have been first in line! You knew at 4:30 abouth the Main Event and you did NOTHING about it because you knew you would have had a riot on your hand. To give credit to Kimbo for fighting a no name mid-carder come on…Kimbo should have kicked his a$$, thats why you ran to the ring. When Gina loses to Cyborg in a few months your are all done…My total weekend was $2100.00 how much did you lose with the Kimbo loss????

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • jules boquiren says:

    why don’t you have a fight fit for KIMBO? a bareknuckle fight that when the opponent is down, the fight comes to a halt then continues if the opponent would still fight. now Let’s see if Kimbo would rul;e that kind of match…I love to see who dominates on Kimbo’s turf!

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • steve says:

    all of you bash EXC you fail to mention Cung Le who is a true martial artist he has been undefeated in his career he fought in K1 unbeatable no one could match his talent, so he left K1 and went EXC. If you watched the fights he has had their you would be a big fan he is the champ now. tSince EXC folded what is going to happen to Cung Le? go to the UFC and beat all of their best guys? the guy is a beast look out MMA Cung Le is on the loose and i hope he gets a shot at another belt i have been watching him for a long time he is amazing if you get a chance you should really see him if you get a chance

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

  • Shatner says:

    Cung Le fights for Strikeforce not EliteXC.

    Agree or Disagree: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

LEAVE A COMMENT!

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Follow 5OZ