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Kimbo Slice: Ultimate Fraud?

Now that the smoke has cleared, the dust has settled and the fallout from EliteXC “Heat” this past Saturday has almost subsided (with the exception of the Petruzelli “bribe” situation) I wanted to take a look back at the hate that has been spewed at one Kimbo Slice. Ever since Saturday night, numerous outlets have taken huge shots at Kimbo Slice, going so far as to call him “the ultimate fraud” to saying that he he simply “sucks” and that he has “no place in MMA.”

All I have to say to that is chill, donkey. Chill.

There are plenty of people out there, myself included, that knew that if Kimbo faced a legitimate opponent that he would most likely lose. So why is everyone so up in arms? And why are they up in arms and spewing hatred towards Kimbo Slice? The man has been more than happy to admit that he’s a youngster in the game of MMA. He has readily admitted that on numerous occasions. So who should the finger pointing be directed at?

EliteXC, plain and simple.

If there’s anyone to blame for the hype surrounding Kimbo, it’s EliteXC. If there’s anyone to blame for booking Kimbo as a main event, it’s EliteXC. If there’s anyone to blame for billing Kimbo as something we all knew he wasn’t, it’s EliteXC. Well, I take that back. The only people who maybe didn’t know were the talking heads at ESPN and these other mainstream outlets who are more suited to talking about stick and ball sports than they are anything resembling combat sports. But the point still stands. EliteXC is to blame for the “Kimbo hype.”

If it was Kimbo who was out there billing himself as one of the “champions of MMA” and one of the best fighters in MMA then I could understand where the hate is coming from. But Kimbo wasn’t out there talking any smack about the fight even when Ken Shamrock was his opponent. Nor has he ever championed himself as anything more than he actually is which is a 3-1 fighter. On Saturday he showed just that. He’s an inexperienced fighter who’s 3-1. Period. No more, no less. And he’s never claimed to be more than that. EliteXC is to blame for feeding him the Tank Abbotts of the world, not Kimbo.

Could Kimbo and his camp have objected to the way Slice was being portrayed in the advertisements and in the media? Sure. They could have told EliteXC not to put him in main events. But they’re thinking about what’s monetarily best for their fighter. I’m sure the pressure on Slice was enormous to main event nationally televised cards when he’s so inexperienced. But he was being paid handsomely for it. This is America and if you can make that much money by doing so little then so be it. Good for Kimbo that he was paid handsomely based purely on the fact that he had won some street fights. If he can parlay that into a big payday then so be it. That’s the American dream, right? Who are we to shit on him?

Kimbo Slice could have packed his stuff up and went home on Saturday instead of fighting Seth Petruzelli. He knew he was facing a much more dangerous opponent. He knew that it was a risk. But instead of calling it a night because he wasn’t facing who he had prepared for he stepped into the cage anyways to give the fans what they paid for. Granted it didn’t turn out in Kimbo’s favor but you have to at least commend the guy for going out there and doing what was right.

To call Kimbo Slice “the ultimate fraud” and to say that “he sucks” is taking it too far. Does he need work? Yes. Lots of it. His chin is now in question along with his power and his ground game. But what do you expect? He’s 3-1. There’s lots of 3-1 fighters out there with lots of holes in their game. But to say that he doesn’t belong in the sport and that he sucks is out of line. If you know anything about MMA you know that Kimbo Slice was going to fall from grace at some point or another. But remember that the “grace” was built by EliteXC, not by Kimbo Slice. Hate the way he was built up. Hate the house of cards that EliteXC built on the back of a fighter who was so unproven. But don’t hate Kimbo Slice for getting his slice of the pie and taking things as they came. He’s never claimed to be anything more than what he is: a 3-1 fighter with 3-1 skills.

49 COMMENTS
  • DocWagner says:

    Elite XC has promoted Kimbo in so much as the media and the populace have EATEN HIM UP…blaming Elite XC is not completely unfair, but is INcomplete. They provided a product that few thought would be so popular.
    We must take some of the blame as we ate up every single KIMBO story.

    Clearly, Kimbo needs to be promoted as Kevin Ferguson and allow Kimbo Slice to fade away.

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  • Robert says:

    EliteXC new Kimbo was going to be a draw by the amount of hits his Youtube fights had and when he fought Ray Mercer at a now defunct MMA show with a less than stellar undercard the place was packed.

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  • Loco541 says:

    thats a good way of putting it adam, i agree with you. Cant blame slice for making money, not his fault some people dont know how to promote right.

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  • The Judge says:

    LOL at you using profanity in your article and lame phrasing like “chill, donkey”, SENIOR writer (what exactly qualified you for that token title?). No wonder no one will take mma journalism seriously when the premiere sites like this are litter with Op-ed pieces like this. We have professional journalists who don’t know the sport and knowledgable fans content to write like 16 year olds. Too bad, really.

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  • mattio says:

    I think if an MMA fighter is going to be thrust into the spotlight, he should have to take on opponents who could put a L on his record. I think it was very pathetic that guys with baffling losing streaks were being matched up against Kimbo to get him some wins.

    This Kimbo charade has gone on long enough. It’s kind of over. I’m sure a salvage job will be attempted (they don’t have anybody else to step up anyway), and they might even make it another main event, but the curtain’s been lifted and only the most naive will buy into it again.

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  • HexRei says:

    I think Bigfoot Silva is a potential star for EXC. He is huge and skilled enough to take Rodriguez to a decision and has the striking power to KO Cabbage which is a pretty tough task.

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  • ACK! says:

    I agree with this article completely. In fact, the biggest bummer about the flash KO was that we didn’t get to see Kimbo truly tested so he can show how his skills have developed.

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  • Joey says:

    The Judge – professional journalism/Op-ed pieces, etc . . and I quote to you
    “Your destination for Insider MMA news AND OPINION”

    Hex – I think Silva has the potential to be successful in any promotion, UFC included. I really like him and I hope his drug tests/results/suspension shit gets cleared up.

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  • Echolocating says:

    As much as I despise EliteXC for tricking casual MMA fans into believing Kimbo Slice was the next big thing, I don’t hate Kimbo in the least. However, that doesn’t mean Kimbo is completely exonerated from the deception. He knew what was going on and kept his mouth shut just enough to protect the facade EliteXC created. In that respect, I have zero sympathy for what happened to him and the “backlash” from hardcore fans. He and EliteXC played a dangerous game and both got exposed for it.

    I’m just glad it’s over and done with and we can look forward to Kimbo’s next match without all the lies and deception, as thinly veiled as they were. I think he should still fight Shamrock.

    Kimbo’s a really interesting character and I’m still curious about what happens next for him. This guy is going to make a killing when he signs a book deal. ;-)

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  • Ricky says:

    I’ve been saying that exact same thing ever since Slice was first put on TV. EliteXC and CBS are the bad guys here, not Kevin Ferguson. He just did what any of us would have done: took the money and fame while it was there to be had so he could get off the street.

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  • joe area 609 says:

    what are people thinking. do people even remember pride. the matchups where set where their fighters that draw heads and make them money where given fights where they could shine let alone get out unhurt where they could fight again on another card soon. japan did not worry about wins and loses just about entertainment. kimbo did not even come off like that dufus fighting couture. most fighters have a manager but kimbo was used by elite xc to hype their events. anyone who says they would turn down money and turn down fighting people that are their to lose is full of it. alot of the fights we dont see on the undercardd are political and are matched to favor a fighter the promotional company favors. just check out the money thats paid to fighters for events and see if there are many undercardd money upsets. there needs to be q union for fighters for fair health coverage and money. kimbo is not even close to the problem, he just took the opportunity he was handed.

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  • Dr.Stoppage says:

    Here’s 3 positives about Elite XC.
    We get to watch Kimbo’s career progress.
    We get to watch women’s MMA progress.
    We get to watch Frank’s dental work progress.
    ALL FOR FREE.
    If you can’t dig that,then check your pulse,’cause you might be dead.

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  • darkmetal says:

    Adam, I agree with you…mostly.

    But you must also remember that Kimbo called out none other than Chuck Liddell in a Youtube.com posting. Sure, Chuck had talked trash about him, but was he also speaking the truth? Of course.

    Perhaps Kimbo needs to write a book called “The Audacity of Hype” because if he lost to Seth, he might actually die fighting Liddell.

    So, while I would generally agree with you that EXC is to blame for “Kimbo Hype” I would also say that he gladly went along with it to the point of challenging an MMA fighter roughly 10 times better than he is knowing he would not have to back it up.

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  • dave woodruff says:

    thank you for the article……it was somewhat I was saying the other day on some of the other message boards, and I am afriad if Brock Lesnar would get Ko’d or tapped about by Randy that you will have to write this kind of article for him also…..like i said before in past messages, its great to have your favorites and people that you dont like, but like i said before why such hatred pointed at a guy who admits he is young to the game, shoot im young to watching mma and have really only been a more serious fan these last couple of years, everyone knew kimbo would get beat sometime, that’s not like sovling the divinci code or anything, so what he lost, yes it was a shock to me personally because i had just sat down to relax and take the fight in, and before i knew it, it was over…which i know can happen at anytime…but thank you for the article i belive it was a great read and im glad to see someone else shares my opinions

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  • JacRabbit says:

    Thanks for a great article backed with some good common sense.

    …and btw, what the hell is up the ass of ‘The Judge’? Must be some old grumpy college professor.

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  • Kimbocleanedupbuthispossedidnt says:

    Hate kimbo because he was a dirty fighter who controlled fights through his posse. They were completely hypocritical and stopped fights when slice was not winning. Anyone can win a fight when your posse fights it for you. If Seth hit kimbo in the back of the head, it would only be to return the favor.

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  • Justin Van Hook says:

    I think the majority of the hatred IS directed at EliteXC for Kimbo’s popularity. Stating “Kimbo Sucks” or something like that is just a matter of opinion which is, after all, what these forums are all about; it doesn’t neccessarily convey hate. I don’t personally hate Kimbo for being popular with legions of uninformed followers, I just think he’s a terrible fighter with almost no potential for any significant improvement. But hey, that’s just my opinion.

    And while I don’t hate Kimbo for being popular, there are a lot of other reasons to question the type of guy he is. How about the antics after the fight the other night. I know it wasn’t him throwing stuff and making threats but the type of people you surround yourself with certainly reflects back on you. And maybe it’s trivial but his unwillingness to touch gloves with Seth after the refs instructions is just another example of poor-sportsmanship.

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  • Justin Van Hook says:

    Also, I went to Journalism school and found your use of the word “shit” to be perfectly acceptable.

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  • Venom says:

    Great article, Adam! I completely agree with you! It’s about time a reputable MMA writer came to the defense of Kimbo.
    I don’t understand the hatred towards him either. He brought new fans to MMA and helped spread the word of MMA! I’ll always give Kimbo props for that. Now he just has to elevate his game and show the world that a raw street-fighter can be molded into a legitimate MMA contender. My hopes and prayers are with Bas Rutten. I hope he can get it done.

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  • cornerman says:

    How many 3-1 fighters have a 500,000 dollar payday? I’d say ‘fraud’ is a little over drawn but ‘genius’ is more on point.

    From his videos “That’s how a nigga eat” You can take the thug out da hood but you can’t take the hood out da thug. Is it any surprise he didn’t do an interview after the big reveal? “It’s all good, it’s ALL good” yes I bet it is, now your kids all get Escalades and new grills for der burfday.

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  • sarge says:

    Ok any of you idiots that talk shit about kimbo step in the ring with him and see how much of a fraud he is when you in the hospital with a broken face. Its easy to talk about someone when there not standing in front of you. shut up you cant do what he does, he is just living his dream and making money to raise a family. Please any of you who talk shit go strap on some gloves and step into a ring with anyone, most of you want hell most of you are afraid to fight a little kid.

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  • brad says:

    I think this is jus a set back for kimbo. The fact everyone losses even the best. It took michel jordan six years to win the title, Kimbo is no different he is not over he will be back. He is not the type to just lay down and die, He made money in the process no need to hate him for that. It think it is funny that you guysdislike but all you guys watched the fight. Don’t be made he made the money.

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  • Hexdizzle says:

    Thank you Adam! It’s about time someone puts this whole thing in prespective.
    All you haters just need to put some gloves on and step into the ring and see just how good you’ll. I’m sure you will sing a different song once you wake up from being KTFO!

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  • Robert says:

    cornerman what do you think Brock Lesnar got paid for his last fight? His record also 3 and 1.

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  • HexRei says:

    lesnar is actually 2 and 1, and was only 1-1 before beating herring (so the pay he received for that fight can’t really reflect pay for a 2-1 fighter). Dana pays him this much because Brock is a HUGE draw, just like Kimbo. So your points stands.

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  • rayjag1980 says:

    Would love to see kimbo go against Brock Lesnar!

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  • Bryan says:

    Kimbo Slice is an illusion, a hyped up promotion that has made a lot of people money. I in no way disaggree with anyone finding something the capitolize on. The reality is thought that kimbo is not a great mma fighter, and simply never will be. Rarely do I saw such statements about a new fighter so bold so quickly. But in this case I will with a lot of confidense. Kimbo has mediocre standup at best. He’s a brawler I would compare to a modern day (Tank Abbot) not a complement by the way. He’s swings for the fenses hoping he gets the home run. He has no ground game to speak out, and the thought of submissions is an abosolute laugh riot. Kimbo is going to have trouble with even medocre heavyweights, and he doesn’t stand a chance against top level compitition. I don’t see a lot of potention here either, he’s 32 not anciant by any means, but kimbo just doesn’t have a strong mma base. Fedor would eat him for lunch in every aspect of the game. Frank Mir would submit him, Randy couture would have a hay day with him. Hell check congo would destroy him. I’m sure a lot of light heavweights would have no problem with him either. Rampage Jackson, Forrest Griffen, Dan Henderson, Chuck Liddel. I could go on forever but my point is affliction is a joke, their entire promotion is on showcasing for one. Kimbo fighting absolute push overs, and washed up old school mma fighters. Ken Shamrock has been done since he came back from the mma, just riding off his name. Tank Abbott was a brawler that was able to be successful before mma evolved into what it is today. Affliction showcases second rate washed former ufc/pride fighters that were on losing streaks in the big leagues. Tito ortiz will probably be signing soon, and he could be any more wahed up. Arlovski hadn’t been doing so hot, and renato sobral was on a losing streak to, and tim silvia just sucks ass. Fedor is the exception, and is something I don’t even want to begin to go in to . Fedor should be fighting the best in the world but he’s not that simple. It’s the only holding him back from being “king” of mma. But I don’t see affliction surviving running this kind of a promotion. Kimbo Slice was a good thing for mma, because affliction may be one step closer to being non-existent.

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  • Simon Cason says:

    I’ve said all along Kimbo doesn’t belong in MMA. Who the FUCK looked at those YouTube videos and said “hey man that’s the next heavyweight champion of MMA”? Kimbo is one dimensional. If he stays at it for more than 5 years than obviously he’ll get better but I dont think Kimbo has that much time left in this sport. Especially if he loses his next fight. No matter the opponent. Kimbo belongs in Boxing. If he really is this ordinary guy that came from the ghetto and was homeless, and he’s doing this for the money, then why the fuck is he fighting not to lose in MMA. Boxing is where he’ll stands to make the most money. And with the standing 8 count, that 14 second K.O. would’ve never happened. Kimbo does have one thing most MMA fighters will never have…Charisma. He’s a very popular guy with a devoted following. Boxing needs their next great heavy weight. And the fact that he’s fighting for the Shaw family makes all this even weirder. The Shaw’s come from boxing and they could have made their own little comeback in boxing by bringing Kimbo in. Kimbo has standing punching power. At 34 or 35, he’s not going to catch on to too many more skill sets. Let him box. He’d be a much bigger star making way more money than he ever dreamed of. Too bad this will never happen because he has just one more shot at being taken seriously by the hard core fan. And if he blows his next fight,(which I’m sure he will, he’s already been exposed and EX/C cant afford to throw him another can) and loses, he’s done for. No boxing career, no MMA career. Maybe a TNA or WWF contract. Maybe….

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  • Sam Caplan says:

    “LOL at you using profanity in your article and lame phrasing like “chill, donkey”, SENIOR writer (what exactly qualified you for that token title?). No wonder no one will take mma journalism seriously when the premiere sites like this are litter with Op-ed pieces like this. We have professional journalists who don’t know the sport and knowledgable fans content to write like 16 year olds. Too bad, really.”

    What’s with all the vitriol? I think you need to chill, donkey. Chill.

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  • dave woodruff says:

    i love watching kimbo fight because i like the raw gritty style which he came from, i never believe he would go like 50 and 0, and dominate everyone, i just enjoy watching him fight, is there anything wrong with that? if someone thought he would be able to hang with legit heavyweights right now, then they need to have their heads examined, to me Kimbo is kind of a new age Tank Abbot at this stage of his game, but at this point he doesnt have the KO power that tank HAD

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  • Unquestioned Answers says:

    Dave…you love watching the raw gritty style of Kimbo Slice huh? All 11minutes and 14 seconds of him. Thats not alot of time of raw gritty style by any means.

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  • RJA says:

    like most people i’m glad he was exposed for what he is,an amatuer.I don’t mind kimbo,he’s entertaining in that tyson sort of way,lovem or hatem.But i’m just glad that maybe now elite won’t feel obligated to protect him.And hopefully he can relax get the training he needs from bas,and eventually fight the fights people want to see.I would still like to see him fight rodgers because of the bad blood there.we’ll see.

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  • Falufalump says:

    Kimbo still shops at Walmart. He’s fairly humble. He’s fairly grateful. And, he’s trying to learn. Kimbo is a man, who likes to fight. Hopefully, he keeps doing it.

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  • Mike says:

    Let me just tell it like it REALLY is. We all saw Kimbo for the first time on youtube fighting pussies. Kimbo is a thug, who goes around with his other thugs acting like a “gangsta” in those videos. The reason we hate Kimbo is because he acts like the wanna-be gangsters in high school who would show up at a party with his crew and screw up everybody’s good time.

    The reason we loved the Seth fight is because this big black, thugged out dude who hangs out on porn sets and always brings his loud mouthed posse everywhere got totally destroyed by a smaller WHITE dude with pink hair.

    I hate him even more after the fight because of what his posse said to Seth and his wife. I’m not racist I just tell it like it is. We don’t want thugged out, overhyped, unskilled trash in MMA.

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  • Rich says:

    Did anyone see the video shot by Kimbo’s crew where he calls out Chuck Liddel. Was in response to Chuck commenting that if he had a crew follow him around with a camera he could make some sweet street fight knockout tapes too.

    What does mr ferguson decide to do? He makes a video calling out Chuck Liddel, asking someone to set something up, even if they need to go bare knuckle old school style.

    Now EXC is as shady as they come in this business and I sure hope people dont allow them to turn MMA into what boxing has become. And I definately blame elitexc for 90% of the kimbo BS you hear out there but the man does believe his own press. I dont feel bad for him at all.

    I would like to see him fight a real elite fighter cuz Seth sure as hell isnt one.

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  • HexRei says:

    Rich I don’t see the problem with Kimbo calling Chuck out in response to his comments. It was completely appropriate IMHO, I mean they are fighters so if another fighter disses their skills challenging them is the logical thing to do.

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  • darkmetal says:

    Man, Kimbo does not want any piece of Liddell OR Lesnar. Is there anyone here that think he would win with either?

    Liddell hits alot harder than Seth Petrucelli, for one.

    Lesnar would put Kimbo on his back within 2 seconds of the bell and hammer him until he was just a raspberry colored stain in the mat.

    These are things that we need to put it all in perspective. Oh yeah, I am sure that Kimbo can beat up the kid flipping burgers at “in and out” burger….

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  • JJ Docker says:

    Forget about Liddell or Lesnar I think Kimbo would have a tough time beating any of UFC’s heavyweight division. At the same time, he doesn’t claim that he can; his response to Liddell was a personal retaliation not something he just came up with. Kimbo is a very mediocre MMA heavyweight and I don’t seen him ever getting very far beyond that.
    The whole Kimbo hype machine is a tough pill to swallow because whilst I don’t want the uneducated viewers that tune into his fights to take it as a general representation of MMA, I do want uneducated viewers to tune in. The way I see it is that if viewers watch a Kimbo fight and go on to become a fan of MMA, (inevitably realising in the process that Kimbo is an overhyped, fairly poor one-dimensial fighter), then it’s tough to argue that Kimbo Slice isn’t ultimately good for the sport.

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  • HexRei says:

    How is that relevant to whether he has the right to call them out? As long as he would actually fight them given the chance (and I think he would, especially now, although his management may not like the idea) then he is totally justified to call out Liddell.

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  • HexRei says:

    You know what I’m getting a little tired of? The ANTI-Kimbo hype train.I barely even like the guy but because I am reasonable about his career and don’t have an intense personal hatred of him lately I end up defending the guy. Yeah, he’s nowhere near the fighter EliteXC built him up to be. He’s still a goddamn person!

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  • RJA says:

    After everything is said and done i hope kimbo rebounds,and does well.It’s not his fault it’s elites fault.But everybody knows that already.At least whoever is reading this does.And thats the unfortunate thing.

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  • nate says:

    Agreed. Kimbo is great for the sport either way though. He brings in farweather fans that would have never watched MMA normally and he teaches them (by his fight style vs the other fights) that MMA requires tons of preparation, talent, training.. and other people are more skilled at it.

    Look at Gina Carano, she is a wicked MMA fighter compared to Kimbo.

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  • Blake Martin says:

    I think that the Kimbo Slice loss was just that…a loss. He is a figher and anyone who is a true fighter can tell u that losing is all part of the game(not the best part). So for everybody being on his back about the loss and the so called “set-up fights” take another look at it. He is a internet champion of street fighting and yes there is a big spotlight on him when he stepped into the cage, but remember he is just a rookie in this MMA fighting so in my mind he is just going through the roughness of not having the experience in the cage. I think that he is going to cause big problems for the whole heavyweight division in a few years when he becomes more rounded in this sport. His biggest test haves just arrived, how he bounces back from this loss will tell us everything about Kimbo Slice! Thoughts of Blake Martin

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  • Sam says:

    STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR KIMBO. I quote Dana White in saying “KIMBO SLICE SUCKS”. Kimbo said this and said that, and he was the baddest fighter alive, so don’t make it look like Elite XC’s falt cause its not. Kimbo made the mistake of saying all the crap that he did and was set up to fight washed up fighters. He din’t get what he wanted which was a RETIRED FIGHTER to fight, instead he fought someone THAT NEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. Quite making excuses for the man, he wanted his name all over now he does but its not the tune that he nore his YOUTUBE fans wanted, which is singing FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD, IM BAD CAUSE IF FIGHT WASHED UP OLD MEN HAHAHA.

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  • RJA says:

    Sam, if kimbo did say all them things than your right.But i didn’t here anything about him saying he was the baddest fighter ever.Not saying he didn’t,but from what i saw he’s been relativley modest.Regardless of what was said though elite the one who propelled him to the status of the face of mma.That all that i’m saying.

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  • Smokes says:

    I don’t need to direct any hate toward Kimbo but how is it wrong to say that he does not belong in MMA? He does not belong in the spot light, on EXC, or even as a mentionable as a MMA fighter. When a man goes 0-4 against low level opponents, nobody wants to pay to watch him fight. When a man beats old timers and hand fed cans only to lose to legitmate low level opponents (who are a weight class below them) nobody should have to pay to see them fight either. So Kimbo made his money while he could, does that change the fact that he knew he was beating nobodies and that given a true opponent he’d lose? does that change the fact that Kimbo knew when he challenged Chuck that they would never fight? Does it matter that Kimbo knows he shouldn’t be on the main stage but does it anyway to make his money? To Adam Morgan it does not, to me it does. Would you be happy if during a fire I showed up and claimed I was a fireman? No you would not, its fraud. Maybe if I saved your cat from a burning building you wouldn’t care but thats the equivilant of if Kimbo had put on realistic and exciting fights, he didn’t so he was a fraud. Sure if I was in Kimbo’s position I’d do the same thing, make a boat load of money. But in doing this I would expect Kimbo to do the same thing as me if he were in my position, Kimbo did not come off as a good ambassador to our sport so I think I’m justified in my above claims.

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  • RJA says:

    sure

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  • tylerdante69 says:

    Stop Hating on Kimbo and Elite XC.

    Sure they don’t compare to UFC and we all know that. And Kimbo is not up there either with real MMA Heavyweights or even middleweights.

    But ALL YOU GUYS can’t deny that you will WATCH the next Elite XC fight on CBS with Kimbo.

    The last CBS airing grossed higher viewers compared to their last 2.

    All I know, EVERYBODY at work after that weekend was talking about HOW KIMBO GOT KOd.

    But yet, NOBODY(Non MMA fans; Normal People) knows at work that Chuck Liddel got KOd by Rashad Evans.

    That’s what ELite XC and Kimbo did.

    It made EVERYBODY (not just the Die Hard MMA fans) know about MMA.

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  • Tuna says:

    I beg to differ on a few points. One was that Kimbo started to believe the hype EliteXC was pushing out to the media. There are videos on You Tube that show Slice calling out Chuck Liddell. There are videos out there of slice claiming to be unbeatable and stating that he was tired of hearing about Brock Lesnar being the future of MMA. He even went so far in the video to call Lesnar a joke and say that he was the future of MMA. If that is not Slice making claims to MMA dominance.

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