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	<title>Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain Presents: The Duel</title>
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		<title>By: JJ Docker</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ Docker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good piece, good duel. Although I have to disagree with
&quot;..to a seemingly revitalized Silva..&quot;
&quot;..Silva looks like he’s found the Silva of old..&quot;
I love Wanderlei but a 14-second flash TKO of Jardine doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s back to the Silva of old. Jardines a top fighter and he caught him and finished him, it was ace and I was going crazy but it hardly shows he&#039;s back to his days as the ruler of Pride. He looked tiny compared to Jardine and does to rest of the UFC lhw division. 
Anyway I can&#039;t wait for Rampage and Silva, I think that Rampage will win by unanimous decision; a 3 round war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good piece, good duel. Although I have to disagree with<br />
&#8220;..to a seemingly revitalized Silva..&#8221;<br />
&#8220;..Silva looks like he’s found the Silva of old..&#8221;<br />
I love Wanderlei but a 14-second flash TKO of Jardine doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s back to the Silva of old. Jardines a top fighter and he caught him and finished him, it was ace and I was going crazy but it hardly shows he&#8217;s back to his days as the ruler of Pride. He looked tiny compared to Jardine and does to rest of the UFC lhw division.<br />
Anyway I can&#8217;t wait for Rampage and Silva, I think that Rampage will win by unanimous decision; a 3 round war.</p>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm why give kimbo props for taking the fight? he didnt have a choice. he wasnt gonna cancel and lose his check ,are you nuts? no matter what happened that night kimbo was fighting.im tired of hearing about what a good guy kimbo is for taking the fight.hes a tool, period. he wanted to get used as much as elite xc wanted to use him. when you go from fighting in backyards for a few hundred bucks and being a bodyguard for a porn company to being a main event fighter for a crappy company for a few hundred thousand perfight, YOU TAKE THE FIGHT,ANYFIGHT. ok he wasnt gonna say no nor was elite xc gonna let him say no.he doesnt fight that night and elite xc closes shop right there on the spot.sure they gave him some more cash,didnt have too, but they did. he was still gonna fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm why give kimbo props for taking the fight? he didnt have a choice. he wasnt gonna cancel and lose his check ,are you nuts? no matter what happened that night kimbo was fighting.im tired of hearing about what a good guy kimbo is for taking the fight.hes a tool, period. he wanted to get used as much as elite xc wanted to use him. when you go from fighting in backyards for a few hundred bucks and being a bodyguard for a porn company to being a main event fighter for a crappy company for a few hundred thousand perfight, YOU TAKE THE FIGHT,ANYFIGHT. ok he wasnt gonna say no nor was elite xc gonna let him say no.he doesnt fight that night and elite xc closes shop right there on the spot.sure they gave him some more cash,didnt have too, but they did. he was still gonna fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Grappo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grappo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once Cyborg demolishes Carano, then they will be really hurting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once Cyborg demolishes Carano, then they will be really hurting.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio Hernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergio Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I&#039;m not sure if Kimbo&#039;s loss means anything.

I talked to a guy at work who doesn&#039;t really like Kimbo but decided to check out the fight because all his friends were talking about it.

He felt the illegal blow to the back of the head played a factor and his friends, uneducated MMA fans that they are, think Petruzelli got lucky and Kimbo is still the man.

A Silverback/Slice rematch in Jan or Feb would pull in some pretty good number, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I&#8217;m not sure if Kimbo&#8217;s loss means anything.</p>
<p>I talked to a guy at work who doesn&#8217;t really like Kimbo but decided to check out the fight because all his friends were talking about it.</p>
<p>He felt the illegal blow to the back of the head played a factor and his friends, uneducated MMA fans that they are, think Petruzelli got lucky and Kimbo is still the man.</p>
<p>A Silverback/Slice rematch in Jan or Feb would pull in some pretty good number, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathedron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathedron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rampage will beat Silva.  He&#039;s way better than he used to be while Silva hasn&#039;t really evolved at all.

EliteXC might be disorganized and sloppy as hell, but I don&#039;t think they actually &quot;bribed&quot; anyone.  &quot;Strongly hinted&quot; that they would prefer it stay standing, yes.  But everyone knew that already.  That said, EXC doesn&#039;t have anyone besides Kimbo to headline a show in the near future and Kimbo&#039;s mystique has pretty much worn off with his last two fights.  Seth pretty much fucked himself with his comments.  EXC isn&#039;t going to want to promote him after that mess. The rest of the roster just isn&#039;t well known enough to the casual fans (including what they could borrow from the Affliction roster).  EXC is in trouble.  I think CBS would be better served to just skip the ShoXC fights and put on a Fight Night at least one Saturday a month with the hopes that one of the other fighters might catch on with repeated exposure.  The UFC has had years to develop most of it&#039;s stars.  EXC doesn&#039;t have that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rampage will beat Silva.  He&#8217;s way better than he used to be while Silva hasn&#8217;t really evolved at all.</p>
<p>EliteXC might be disorganized and sloppy as hell, but I don&#8217;t think they actually &#8220;bribed&#8221; anyone.  &#8220;Strongly hinted&#8221; that they would prefer it stay standing, yes.  But everyone knew that already.  That said, EXC doesn&#8217;t have anyone besides Kimbo to headline a show in the near future and Kimbo&#8217;s mystique has pretty much worn off with his last two fights.  Seth pretty much fucked himself with his comments.  EXC isn&#8217;t going to want to promote him after that mess. The rest of the roster just isn&#8217;t well known enough to the casual fans (including what they could borrow from the Affliction roster).  EXC is in trouble.  I think CBS would be better served to just skip the ShoXC fights and put on a Fight Night at least one Saturday a month with the hopes that one of the other fighters might catch on with repeated exposure.  The UFC has had years to develop most of it&#8217;s stars.  EXC doesn&#8217;t have that time.</p>
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		<title>By: darkmetal</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkmetal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Numba1stunna:  The questions are geared toward what everyone is talking about this week.  If you check out the MMA sites, it is all about the Kimbo KO, EliteXC corruption, and the fact that Jared Shaw appears to be Kimbo&#039;s groupy...not a person you need running your corporation.  It is all about readership.

1. Kimbo Slice defeat Dooms EliteXC: No, but it is likely the beginning of the end.  The org continues to lose money, and Carano now needs to be shielded from Chris Cyborg, who I think will beat her most definitely.  Also, I have yet to hear how long Kimbo will be on the sidelines due to being KO&#039;d.  Of course, they can surely have an immediate rematch with Seth when he returns.

2.  Jared Shaw as unprofessional and ridiculous head of EliteXC:  Whoever is pulling the strings really needs to understand how badly this guy is damaging their brand, he needs to go at the earliest opportunity.  I have watched Dana White&#039;s face after fights where Chuck Liddell has lost, and he seems amused as long as the fight is a good one.  He is only disgusted about fights that seem to be a letdown as far as action, or if the fighter simply does not want to engage.  To him, it appears, it is about the health of the company not the career of any 1 fighter.

3.  Can Rampage beat Silva:  Yes, and I believe he will.  Silva has not seemed as good since he has left Pride.  Perhaps it is the cage, or maybe it is because steroids are illegal in the US (Although I don&#039;t know he ever took them).  Certainly, he is not the same fighter as before, and Rampage is continuing to improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numba1stunna:  The questions are geared toward what everyone is talking about this week.  If you check out the MMA sites, it is all about the Kimbo KO, EliteXC corruption, and the fact that Jared Shaw appears to be Kimbo&#8217;s groupy&#8230;not a person you need running your corporation.  It is all about readership.</p>
<p>1. Kimbo Slice defeat Dooms EliteXC: No, but it is likely the beginning of the end.  The org continues to lose money, and Carano now needs to be shielded from Chris Cyborg, who I think will beat her most definitely.  Also, I have yet to hear how long Kimbo will be on the sidelines due to being KO&#8217;d.  Of course, they can surely have an immediate rematch with Seth when he returns.</p>
<p>2.  Jared Shaw as unprofessional and ridiculous head of EliteXC:  Whoever is pulling the strings really needs to understand how badly this guy is damaging their brand, he needs to go at the earliest opportunity.  I have watched Dana White&#8217;s face after fights where Chuck Liddell has lost, and he seems amused as long as the fight is a good one.  He is only disgusted about fights that seem to be a letdown as far as action, or if the fighter simply does not want to engage.  To him, it appears, it is about the health of the company not the career of any 1 fighter.</p>
<p>3.  Can Rampage beat Silva:  Yes, and I believe he will.  Silva has not seemed as good since he has left Pride.  Perhaps it is the cage, or maybe it is because steroids are illegal in the US (Although I don&#8217;t know he ever took them).  Certainly, he is not the same fighter as before, and Rampage is continuing to improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Numba1Stunna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Numba1Stunna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a break with all the Kimbo and EliteXC questions who really cares if Jared Shaw was innapropriate. This is usually my favorite column b/c you guys discuss what matters and this just ruined it for me. 5 out of 6 questions on basically the same thing is not a duel. Can i get a re-do for this week? Anyways, I hope next week is better than this. Anyone else just completely sick and tired of reading about EliteXC and how big of a joke Kimbo is? Writers on this site constantly complain of how overhyped Kimbo is, then you give it creedence by talking only about him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a break with all the Kimbo and EliteXC questions who really cares if Jared Shaw was innapropriate. This is usually my favorite column b/c you guys discuss what matters and this just ruined it for me. 5 out of 6 questions on basically the same thing is not a duel. Can i get a re-do for this week? Anyways, I hope next week is better than this. Anyone else just completely sick and tired of reading about EliteXC and how big of a joke Kimbo is? Writers on this site constantly complain of how overhyped Kimbo is, then you give it creedence by talking only about him.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Wolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimbo&#039;s loss doesn&#039;t have to be the end of Elite.  As long as CBS aggressively advertises upcoming fights, the 18-34 demographic will tune in, and in increasing numbers.  The sport is fast-paced and exciting, and good fights will generate more interest even if fans don&#039;t know too many (or any) of the fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimbo&#8217;s loss doesn&#8217;t have to be the end of Elite.  As long as CBS aggressively advertises upcoming fights, the 18-34 demographic will tune in, and in increasing numbers.  The sport is fast-paced and exciting, and good fights will generate more interest even if fans don&#8217;t know too many (or any) of the fighters.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimbo, Theyre done - They don&#039;t have to be, but they need to market it/spin it/market seth correctly and with their previous marketing abilities I&#039;m not to positive. And yes, kudos to him for taking the fight, not the smartest move, but it&#039;s awesome they did

Trilogy - Vanderlei wins, what improvements has Jackson made in his game? He&#039;s a little better counterpuncher now? His brain is wacked and that&#039;s not going to help either.

Shaw - He needs to go

Bribe - I think there is a line between bribing someone or fixing a fight and encouraging an exciting fight. I think they probably tried to suggested him to stand, I think they probably offered a knockout bonus and it probably wasn&#039;t done with the best of intentions. But they wanted to give the fans a fight they wanted to see, that&#039;s not totally wrong. I, for one, believe they didn&#039;t BRIBE him, or try FIX the fight. Bribe is a harsh word and I wouldn&#039;t use it. Encouraged . . probably

Smart- I don&#039;t know if they&#039;ll necessarily wait for Slice and Carano both, but maybe they&#039;ll be smarter and throw in Frank or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimbo, Theyre done &#8211; They don&#8217;t have to be, but they need to market it/spin it/market seth correctly and with their previous marketing abilities I&#8217;m not to positive. And yes, kudos to him for taking the fight, not the smartest move, but it&#8217;s awesome they did</p>
<p>Trilogy &#8211; Vanderlei wins, what improvements has Jackson made in his game? He&#8217;s a little better counterpuncher now? His brain is wacked and that&#8217;s not going to help either.</p>
<p>Shaw &#8211; He needs to go</p>
<p>Bribe &#8211; I think there is a line between bribing someone or fixing a fight and encouraging an exciting fight. I think they probably tried to suggested him to stand, I think they probably offered a knockout bonus and it probably wasn&#8217;t done with the best of intentions. But they wanted to give the fans a fight they wanted to see, that&#8217;s not totally wrong. I, for one, believe they didn&#8217;t BRIBE him, or try FIX the fight. Bribe is a harsh word and I wouldn&#8217;t use it. Encouraged . . probably</p>
<p>Smart- I don&#8217;t know if they&#8217;ll necessarily wait for Slice and Carano both, but maybe they&#8217;ll be smarter and throw in Frank or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll go ahead and expose my ignorance, but where does the &#039;Skala&#039; name come in as a reference to Jared Shaw?  I&#039;ve seen it used many times and I&#039;m definitely out of the loop.

Oh yeah, and his antics cageside as Kimbo was getting beat were downright comical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll go ahead and expose my ignorance, but where does the &#8216;Skala&#8217; name come in as a reference to Jared Shaw?  I&#8217;ve seen it used many times and I&#8217;m definitely out of the loop.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and his antics cageside as Kimbo was getting beat were downright comical.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Cava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this site definitely reeks... of AWESOME.

This Duel is called by Doctor Stoppage due to cuts. I want a rematch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this site definitely reeks&#8230; of AWESOME.</p>
<p>This Duel is called by Doctor Stoppage due to cuts. I want a rematch.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Caplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Caplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lighten up, Francis. Nothing derogatory or hateful was said. No stereotypes were expressed. I think you have us confused with the Washington Post. Last time I checked, this was a website covering mixed martial arts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lighten up, Francis. Nothing derogatory or hateful was said. No stereotypes were expressed. I think you have us confused with the Washington Post. Last time I checked, this was a website covering mixed martial arts.</p>
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		<title>By: The Judge</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Judge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All right! A gay joke to open the column, this site reeks of credibility. Maybe we can get some black jokes next time? With Kimbo in the forefront of the mma news, should be easy pickings for you talented writers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right! A gay joke to open the column, this site reeks of credibility. Maybe we can get some black jokes next time? With Kimbo in the forefront of the mma news, should be easy pickings for you talented writers!</p>
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		<title>By: Cash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam Morgan wins this one hands down.......and Huckaby still appears to have a crush on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Morgan wins this one hands down&#8230;&#8230;.and Huckaby still appears to have a crush on him.</p>
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		<title>By: AfroPuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>AfroPuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo, you are all wrong about Kimbo.  He just got cought, the man hits like a truck and is new to the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo, you are all wrong about Kimbo.  He just got cought, the man hits like a truck and is new to the game.</p>
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